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Post by Luigi Sansonetti on Sept 24, 2022 2:16:17 GMT
Weidling: Major, 1845 medals. A Bai C.X. with less survivability. Even with the Inspiring skill, he does not outperform Bai C.X. His only advantage is that he does not depend on Plain Fighting for output. You have to promote him to an M. General, but he will cost a total of 2785 medals. +2 extra damage and similar health compared to Bai C.X. should not cost you 925 medals more. But still, he's suitable as your third artillery general, but you have to either spend medals on an infantry general or slap some infantry medal to Weidling.  |
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Post by Josip Broz Tito on Sept 24, 2022 2:50:42 GMT
Weidling: Major, 1845 medals. A Bai C.X. with less survivability. Even with the Inspiring skill, he does not outperform Bai C.X. His only advantage is that he does not depend on Plain Fighting for output. You have to promote him to an M. General, but he will cost a total of 2785 medals. +2 extra damage and similar health compared to Bai C.X. should not cost you 925 medals more. But still, he's suitable as your third artillery general, but you have to either spend medals on an infantry general or slap some infantry medal to Weidling. When discount is over, he will cost 3690 medals. Sad |
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Post by Luigi Sansonetti on Sept 24, 2022 4:24:26 GMT
When discount is over, he will cost 3690 medals. Sad I doubt that Weidling will ever lose discount. It is a marketing strategy to put 50% discount mark on items to make an illusion that players have to purchase them as soon as possible. |
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Post by resiphius on Sept 24, 2022 12:21:42 GMT
When discount is over, he will cost 3690 medals. Sad I doubt that Weidling will ever lose discount. It is a marketing strategy to put 50% discount mark on items to make an illusion that players have to purchase them as soon as possible. Definitely scam, because I recall only two people at the colonel rank are selling 2000+, make no sense ET will sell one ranked only major at 3000+ |
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Post by Erich von Manstein on Sept 24, 2022 18:42:50 GMT
I doubt that Weidling will ever lose discount. It is a marketing strategy to put 50% discount mark on items to make an illusion that players have to purchase them as soon as possible. Definitely scam, because I don’t recall seeing any general ranked colonel was selling at even 2000+, make no sense ET will sell one at 3000+ Leeb is priced 2k+, Model 3k+. Both colonels. |
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Post by Erich von Manstein on Sept 25, 2022 4:45:58 GMT
I think the easiest run for medals would be Barbarossa's Kiev path. I recommend 3 tanks, 2 artilleries, and 1 air (I used the triumvirate, 2 ECs on tank and artillery, and Sansonetti). I mostly relied on the tank guys for the operations, and the artillery generals are meant to crack the super tank generals.
Barbarossa is definitely easier than Patriotic. In Barbarossa you get Zhukov on rocket, but in Patriotic there's Manstein on super tank.
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Post by resiphius on Sept 25, 2022 6:46:49 GMT
Definitely scam, because I don’t recall seeing any general ranked colonel was selling at even 2000+, make no sense ET will sell one at 3000+ Leeb is priced 2k+, Model 3k+. Both colonels. Weird, I made correction not long after the comment but it failed to apply, shouldn’t be the version you quoted. |
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Post by Luigi Sansonetti on Sept 25, 2022 11:12:28 GMT
I think the easiest run for medals would be Barbarossa's Kiev path. I recommend 3 tanks, 2 artilleries, and 1 air (I used the triumvirate, 2 ECs on tank and artillery, and Sansonetti). I mostly relied on the tank guys for the operations, and the artillery generals are meant to crack the super tank generals. Barbarossa is definitely easier than Patriotic. In Barbarossa you get Zhukov on rocket, but in Patriotic there's Manstein on super tank. Barbarossa Kiev Medium is the best. You will get any two from these medals: the artillery, panzer and marching. Hard difficulty: I do not see Assault, Combo, and Strike good for early players. Those are only useful when you have tons of artillery, panzer and marching medals. |
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Post by Luigi Sansonetti on Sept 25, 2022 12:46:40 GMT
Apparently, in an Operation, if a general falls in one stage, he will not be deployable for the rest of the operation.
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Post by jonblend on Sept 25, 2022 14:47:25 GMT
Apparently, in an Operation, if a general falls in one stage, he will not be deployable for the rest of the operation. I realized that when trying to auto operations but AI doesn't know how to handle tanks  And I find the northern route of Barbarossa easiest but I'm using 2/3 tank and 4/3 artillery generals. Auto lets me get through the first and second mission but Leningrad is where AI fails. Playing it myself, I never loose Finnish city but well, might try the southern route for a change. Anyways, by going for the hard mission we always get a guaranteed tank medal and somehow I ended up having plenty of artillery medals as well. So if it's possible I think farming hard operations is to be preferred. |
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Post by starfire67 on Sept 25, 2022 17:27:30 GMT
I'm not so sure that Medium Barbarossa is the best option. Something people don't seem to be considering is the medals awarded for completed the Moscow/Berlin stages, separate from the operation-wide rewards. As far as I'm aware, they are always the same and are the following:
EASY:
Barbarossa: Air Force
Patriotic: Navy
MEDIUM:
Barbarossa: Infantry
Patriotic: Marching
HARD:
Barbarossa: Panzer
Patriotic: Artillery
So, for the sake of analysis let's assume that each Panzer, Artillery and Marching medal is worth 2 points, each Air Force, Combo and Assault medal is worth 1 point and all other medals are worth nothing. What do we get on average?
EASY:
Barbarossa: 1pt + (6/3 = 2)pts = 3pts/run
Patriotic: 0pts + (6/4 = 1.5)pts = 1.5pts/run
MEDIUM:
Barbarossa: 0pts + (6/3 x 2 = 4)pts = 4pts/run
Patriotic: 2pts + (7/5 x 2 = 2.8) = 4.8pts/run
HARD:
Barbarossa: 2pts + (8/6 x 3 = 4) = 6pts/run
Patriotic: 2pts + (8/6 x 3 = 4) = 6pts/run
So, it turns out that the best Operation to farm using your free reset is Hard mode of either, depending on whether you want artillery or panzer medals more. But what if you want more and you're willing to pay for it? Which is the most efficient per its cost? For this second analysis, I'll analyse this as points per 100 medals spent.
EASY:
Barbarossa: 3pts/1 = 3pts/100 medals
Patriotic: 1.5/1.2 = 1.25pts/100 medals
MEDIUM:
Barbarossa: 4/1.5 = 2.66/100 medals
Patriotic: 4.8/1.7 = 2.82/100 medals
HARD:
Barbarossa: 6/2 = 3pts/100 medals
Patriotic: 6/2.2 = 2.72/100 medals
This time, it seems that the two winners are Barbarossa Easy and Hard. It seems that farming medals is much more efficient this way than buying them directly from the shop, if more random. The best strategy if you're farming medals with currency medals is probably to use your free reset on Hard Patriotic, then buy resets for Barbarossa Hard normally or Easy if you want air force medals.
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Post by Erich von Manstein on Sept 26, 2022 1:40:13 GMT
Weygand: 1950, Major, infantry 2, tank 5, artillery 3, air 1, navy 2, movement 4, Panzer Leader 4, Guerrilla 3, Camouflage 2, Fortification 3, Desperate 3
Desperate 3: counterattack damage +18
I'd rather get Devers.
So far Weidling, Falkenhorst, and Yeryomenko are stats-wise fine but the former two have poor rank. Pavlov, Tolbukhin, and Weygand are simply useless. We can basically declare death sentence to Horton and Kimmel in advance, the only thing that can save them is 5 star air. That leaves us with Bittrich, Spaatz, Sikorski, and Anders. Spaatz is rumored to be an IAP. easytech either doesn't know what makes a general good or just doesn't want to make good generals.
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Post by Luigi Sansonetti on Sept 26, 2022 2:20:21 GMT
I'm not so sure that Medium Barbarossa is the best option. Something people don't seem to be considering is the medals awarded for completed the Moscow/Berlin stages, separate from the operation-wide rewards. As far as I'm aware, they are always the same and are the following:
EASY:
Barbarossa: Air Force
Patriotic: Navy
MEDIUM:
Barbarossa: Infantry
Patriotic: Marching
HARD:
Barbarossa: Panzer
Patriotic: Artillery
So, for the sake of analysis let's assume that each Panzer, Artillery and Marching medal is worth 2 points, each Air Force, Combo and Assault medal is worth 1 point and all other medals are worth nothing. What do we get on average?
EASY:
Barbarossa: 1pt + (6/3 = 2)pts = 3pts/run
Patriotic: 0pts + (6/4 = 1.5)pts = 1.5pts/run
MEDIUM:
Barbarossa: 0pts + (6/3 x 2 = 4)pts = 4pts/run
Patriotic: 2pts + (7/5 x 2 = 2.8) = 4.8pts/run
HARD:
Barbarossa: 2pts + (8/6 x 3 = 4) = 6pts/run
Patriotic: 2pts + (8/6 x 3 = 4) = 6pts/run
So, it turns out that the best Operation to farm using your free reset is Hard mode of either, depending on whether you want artillery or panzer medals more. But what if you want more and you're willing to pay for it? Which is the most efficient per its cost? For this second analysis, I'll analyse this as points per 100 medals spent.
EASY:
Barbarossa: 3pts/1 = 3pts/100 medals
Patriotic: 1.5/1.2 = 1.25pts/100 medals
MEDIUM:
Barbarossa: 4/1.5 = 2.66/100 medals
Patriotic: 4.8/1.7 = 2.82/100 medals
HARD:
Barbarossa: 6/2 = 3pts/100 medals
Patriotic: 6/2.2 = 2.72/100 medals
This time, it seems that the two winners are Barbarossa Easy and Hard. It seems that farming medals is much more efficient this way than buying them directly from the shop, if more random. The best strategy if you're farming medals with currency medals is probably to use your free reset on Hard Patriotic, then buy resets for Barbarossa Hard normally or Easy if you want air force medals.
The problem is, I want to stockpile on marching, artillery and tanks first. Always playing on Barbarossa hard difficulty may be less efficient on many players than playing Barbarossa medium which gives two of the three essential medals for players who does not have the complete roster yet. |
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Post by Luigi Sansonetti on Sept 26, 2022 2:31:57 GMT
Bittrich: probably another weak panzer general
Spatz: probably another 5-star air general
Sikorski: probably an infantry general, probably another Falkenhorst
Anders: probably an infantry general, a super-Budyonny (I only know that he was a cavalry general
Horton: A commander killed during Operation Market Garden
Kimmel: A demoted four-star admiral due to the attack on Pearl Harbor
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Post by tecnoghost on Sept 26, 2022 3:52:10 GMT
well, Weidling, I quite like him, if I didn't already have konev I would have bought him, although it is true that his life is a bit low, but so far he seems to me the best of the new ones although his new ability doesn't quite impress me convince, yeryomenko I like him a lot for supplies but he's short on damage, and if it's for supplies I already have yamamoto, Falkenhorst is fine, I would have caught him if he didn't have that uniform and I would have seen him in the store, pavlov I would buy it if I have a free space left, I liked it, but it's really bad, if it had the leader skills (and that they were also activated defensively) and fortification at level 4 I would still tell you, okay it's mediocre but no nothing happens,Tolbukin, it's bad, I also like it but I like Pavlov better, aside from the fact that I feel it's more useful than Tolbukin, if instead of being a leader I had a bayonet charge at level 4 and artillery bombardment at level 4 I would tell you okay, and any level of guerrilla instead of raider I would still tell you ok you could have done better but I'll buy it, now weygang is by far the worst, before I bought antonesgu. I mean, they gave him a guerrilla instead of Tolvukin, but only two stars in infantry? for that, give him 4 infantry stars, panzer leader, nothing to say, I don't like leadership skills, camouflage well, ok, a little low level but okay, fortification I suppose that being French is fine, it's still bad but I'll give it to you for the context, and because anyway rommel only has level 1 of anti armor, now desperately I like it as a skill but I don't like it for this character and since I'm evaluating context then I'm ready bad skill for this guy, for rossokovsky or de gaulle okay, even model, but no weygand, rather it seems that they gave him this ability to justify the disaster of skills he has, I hope they don't do a rework of generals because I'm afraid what inventions can be made with old generals and new skills
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And I find the northern route of Barbarossa easiest but I'm using 2/3 tank and 4/3 artillery generals. Auto lets me get through the first and second mission but Leningrad is where AI fails. Playing it myself, I never loose Finnish city but well, might try the southern route for a change. Anyways, by going for the hard mission we always get a guaranteed tank medal and somehow I ended up having plenty of artillery medals as well. So if it's possible I think farming hard operations is to be preferred.
