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Post by prebenh on Aug 24, 2022 14:36:01 GMT
Stoic:
Is 3 Imperial bow cavalry your long-term plan for Timur? Or will you later add a Mamluk and a Mongolian raider or something else?
I ask because I learn a lot from you and andrei and others who seem to possess both wisdom and politeness.
Is there a thread or website where I can learn how to paste names with links, by the way?
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Post by kingbutawl on Aug 24, 2022 14:39:07 GMT
As I thought the damage of Timur is not far behind Dingfang  And he will not die next turn.  With some upgrades here and there he can reach 2500-2600 points of damage Long ago I gave Timur the “underdog-strategy” DinFang has and the results are quite interesting. |
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Post by stoic on Aug 24, 2022 14:48:52 GMT
Stoic: Is 3 Imperial bow cavalry your long-term plan for Timur? Or will you later add a Mamluk and a Mongolian raider or something else? I ask because I learn a lot from you and andrei and others who seem to possess both wisdom and politeness. Is there a thread or website where I can learn how to paste names with links, by the way? Just type @ before the username. It is rather difficult to answer your question. At the moment it is definitely my plan to upgrade Imperial cavalry up to lvl 12 (maybe even higher). I don't see any realistic means to upgrade all 3 excellent units Mamlukes, Mongolian Raiders and Imperial cavalry. And if I should make a choice I will choose a unit with a Raid available to me (that means Timur’s Raid). But we are not sure about the time period we will play EW7 actually. Who knows, maybe one day it will be more easy to get t6 fragments, and we'll see a change of plans  For now I would like to have one reliable unit in every department, rather than to spread my resources. In other words to dig deep rather than to dig wide... |
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Post by stoic on Aug 24, 2022 14:50:12 GMT
As I thought the damage of Timur is not far behind Dingfang And he will not die next turn. With some upgrades here and there he can reach 2500-2600 points of damage Long ago I gave Timur the “underdog-strategy” DinFang has and the results are quite interesting. I personally don't like when my legion lost a legion. I feel insecure and psychologically uncomfortable  |
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Post by verily on Aug 24, 2022 14:56:45 GMT
Long ago I gave Timur the “underdog-strategy” DinFang has and the results are quite interesting. I personally don't like when my legion lost a legion. I feel insecure and psychologically uncomfortable Same. The moment you lost a single unit on legion, things gets hard. |
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Post by 6Johnny23 on Aug 24, 2022 15:05:27 GMT
So Su Dingfang does not consume movement points to attack? Khan does not attack with movement points? Your strategy is in essence saying that if you buy Richard; use his active to immobilize your enemies 4 times with Caesar, Theodora, and Matilda of Boulogne; then run away, leaving your other generals as meatshields. Does making a video qualify a general to be "true OP"? Yes, Khan doesn't need movement points to attack enemies. People just use his active and run away. Su is unkillable with active and you can run away next turn. Both generals are hit and run types. Richard will die from counter attack, what are you talking? Richard is bad end-game. Khan's active only offers 1 attack on multiple enemies. If you are using Su to run away the next turn, why are you judging Timur by the standards of running away on the same turn? Richard will not die from 1 counterattack. Richard is not bad end-game, unless you are facing Modao spam (highly unlikely). |
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Post by stoic on Aug 24, 2022 15:13:51 GMT
Yes, Khan doesn't need movement points to attack enemies. People just use his active and run away. Su is unkillable with active and you can run away next turn. Both generals are hit and run types. Richard will die from counter attack, what are you talking? Richard is bad end-game. Khan's active only offers 1 attack on multiple enemies. If you are using Su to run away the next turn, why are you judging Timur by the standards of running away on the same turn? Richard will not die from 1 counterattack. Richard is not bad end-game, unless you are facing Modao spam (highly unlikely). A very good point btw.! We shouldn't judge a book by a cover, rather by real life experience Territory mode battles are so insignificant part of the game so far. Besides, it is almost always possible to avoid a battle we don't want to fight. Campaigns and special chapters of generals are a "real world" in EW7. |
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Post by kingbutawl on Aug 24, 2022 15:15:13 GMT
Stoic: Is 3 Imperial bow cavalry your long-term plan for Timur? Or will you later add a Mamluk and a Mongolian raider or something else? I ask because I learn a lot from you and andrei and others who seem to possess both wisdom and politeness. Is there a thread or website where I can learn how to paste names with links, by the way? Just type @ before the username. It is rather difficult to answer your question. At the moment it is definitely my plan to upgrade Imperial cavalry up to lvl 12 (maybe even higher). I don't see any realistic means to upgrade all 3 excellent units Mamlukes, Mongolian Raiders and Imperial cavalry. And if I should make a choice I will choose a unit with a Raid available to me (that means Timur’s Raid). But we are not sure about the time period we will play EW7 actually. Who knows, maybe one day it will be more easy to get t6 fragments, and we'll see a change of plans For now I would like to have one reliable unit in every department, rather than to spread my resources. In other words to dig deep rather to dig wide... Yes, but I added 6% defence to balance a general more |
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Post by stoic on Aug 24, 2022 15:22:48 GMT
Just type @ before the username. It is rather difficult to answer your question. At the moment it is definitely my plan to upgrade Imperial cavalry up to lvl 12 (maybe even higher). I don't see any realistic means to upgrade all 3 excellent units Mamlukes, Mongolian Raiders and Imperial cavalry. And if I should make a choice I will choose a unit with a Raid available to me (that means Timur’s Raid). But we are not sure about the time period we will play EW7 actually. Who knows, maybe one day it will be more easy to get t6 fragments, and we'll see a change of plans For now I would like to have one reliable unit in every department, rather than to spread my resources. In other words to dig deep rather to dig wide... Yes, but I added 6% defence to balance a general more It is interesting btw, how these damage reduction gems do work. I don't see any significant difference between ability points and damage increase. My guess is that there will be little or no difference between capability points and damage reduction. So far, I think, capability points are the safest bet. With your love to experiments you can support or oppose this conclusion |
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Post by kingbutawl on Aug 24, 2022 15:36:15 GMT
Some weeks ago I made a comparison between the 2 classes of gems: Raw cap points and defence/attack bonus percentage. Turned out my El Cid with red gems was better than Timur who had 2 more gems but all yellow. Now it's time to make a better comparison, as you suggested |
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Post by Sviatoslav I Igorevich on Aug 24, 2022 18:01:51 GMT
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Post by prebenh on Aug 24, 2022 18:57:26 GMT
Stoic: Is 3 Imperial bow cavalry your long-term plan for Timur? Or will you later add a Mamluk and a Mongolian raider or something else? I ask because I learn a lot from you and andrei and others who seem to possess both wisdom and politeness. Is there a thread or website where I can learn how to paste names with links, by the way? Just type @ before the username. It is rather difficult to answer your question. At the moment it is definitely my plan to upgrade Imperial cavalry up to lvl 12 (maybe even higher). I don't see any realistic means to upgrade all 3 excellent units Mamlukes, Mongolian Raiders and Imperial cavalry. And if I should make a choice I will choose a unit with a Raid available to me (that means Timur’s Raid). But we are not sure about the time period we will play EW7 actually. Who knows, maybe one day it will be more easy to get t6 fragments, and we'll see a change of plans For now I would like to have one reliable unit in every department, rather than to spread my resources. In other words to dig deep rather than to dig wide... I thought you had raided El Cid a lot and that your conquistadors were good enough to contribute in this legion. I feel that legions consisting of only one kind of units misses important features from other units. |
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Post by Sviatoslav I Igorevich on Aug 24, 2022 20:34:57 GMT
Just type @ before the username. It is rather difficult to answer your question. At the moment it is definitely my plan to upgrade Imperial cavalry up to lvl 12 (maybe even higher). I don't see any realistic means to upgrade all 3 excellent units Mamlukes, Mongolian Raiders and Imperial cavalry. And if I should make a choice I will choose a unit with a Raid available to me (that means Timur’s Raid). But we are not sure about the time period we will play EW7 actually. Who knows, maybe one day it will be more easy to get t6 fragments, and we'll see a change of plans For now I would like to have one reliable unit in every department, rather than to spread my resources. In other words to dig deep rather than to dig wide... I thought you had raided El Cid a lot and that your conquistadors were good enough to contribute in this legion. I feel that legions consisting of only one kind of units misses important features from other units. Conquistadors only 9 movement points, that's why better don't use them with Imperial bow archers with 10 movement points. Conquistadors with Ravenna behind Varangians better for El Cid, or change Varangians for Woad raiders, if you need only ranged infantry general. IMO El Cid raid still better, and he deal more damage, he can oneshoot almost all setups except Mamluks based. PS. I'm try use El Cid like Timur, but this setup is worse, better use him as ranged infantry general or even melee infantry general with 3 Varangians. We need both them at all, one who can flanked enemy and one who can stay behind infantry and after the first enemy charge delete enemy charge cavalry. El Cid can fight against 3 charge generals, Timur not so good at this without Sunicas or Richard. |
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Post by awsome4444 on Aug 24, 2022 21:23:38 GMT
Stoic: Is 3 Imperial bow cavalry your long-term plan for Timur? Or will you later add a Mamluk and a Mongolian raider or something else? I ask because I learn a lot from you and andrei and others who seem to possess both wisdom and politeness. Is there a thread or website where I can learn how to paste names with links, by the way? The current Meta I believe is preferably Mamluk, Mongol Raider, and Imperial raider with Rapid March through gems and Rhino lvl 3 equipped. This allows you to attack with Timur more than two times. However, if you don't have Mamluks, just get 2 Imperial Bow and 1 Mongol Raider |
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Post by stoic on Aug 24, 2022 21:40:56 GMT
Just type @ before the username. It is rather difficult to answer your question. At the moment it is definitely my plan to upgrade Imperial cavalry up to lvl 12 (maybe even higher). I don't see any realistic means to upgrade all 3 excellent units Mamlukes, Mongolian Raiders and Imperial cavalry. And if I should make a choice I will choose a unit with a Raid available to me (that means Timur’s Raid). But we are not sure about the time period we will play EW7 actually. Who knows, maybe one day it will be more easy to get t6 fragments, and we'll see a change of plans For now I would like to have one reliable unit in every department, rather than to spread my resources. In other words to dig deep rather than to dig wide... I thought you had raided El Cid a lot and that your conquistadors were good enough to contribute in this legion. I feel that legions consisting of only one kind of units misses important features from other units. Sure they do. But my Conquistadors are at lvl 8. Enough to increase the power of El Cid but hardly enough for extensive use elsewhere. |
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