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Post by yuanzhong on Sept 11, 2022 15:53:14 GMT
active comparison request. can sb please share subutais active skill dmg WITH his unique weapon and some gems vs Genghis khans active dmg with weapon and gems. (so maybe yuanzhong and andrei please if you find the time, as there are not many who can reach it yet. i am rly curious how it scales and who does more. i think i read somewhere sometime that genghis does 500 dmg to 2 units but thats probably outdated right? How can you wonder between the strength of IAP and free general  Subutai only depends on gap between Archer capacity of generals but Khan take sum of both gaps between Archer and Cav Capacity or simple sum capacity of Khan - sum capacity of enemies. PS: meet problem in order of picture so I have some explanation. 1. Same equipments but different gem set (same total capacity pts) give same damage for Khan, 708. 2. Book don't help, 6xx 3. Subutai result only 5xx 4. Red gem doesn't help in increasing skill damage. Both blank and full red give same damage         |
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Post by yuanzhong on Sept 11, 2022 16:04:09 GMT
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Post by stoic on Sept 11, 2022 16:33:19 GMT
I recall that Subutai who damaged my generals had +15% damage item and + 5% bonus for Mongolian Raiders with gems... yuanzhong can you test this. I wonder whether damage bonus applies for his active too... |
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Post by nikomachos on Sept 11, 2022 16:35:30 GMT
thank you! yuanzhongi shall never doubt IAP haha i only now 100% understood the describtion with your explanation. thank you. do you consider this during fighting: target more inf gens with low cav and range points? |
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Post by nikomachos on Sept 11, 2022 16:39:34 GMT
I recall that Subutai who damaged my generals had +15% damage item and + 5% bonus for Mongolian Raiders with gems... yuanzhong can you test this. I wonder whether damage bonus applies for his active too... the unique unit dmg would be interesting. the book/item as he said does not help |
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Post by jonblend on Sept 11, 2022 19:49:21 GMT
What happens if we use the skill on a general with equal or higher capability? (for example subutai in territory battle)
zero or is there a guaranteed minimum of damage?
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Post by stoic on Sept 12, 2022 0:36:35 GMT
What happens if we use the skill on a general with equal or higher capability? (for example subutai in territory battle) zero or is there a guaranteed minimum of damage? The damage is reduced but it is still there. |
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Post by Nobunaga Oda on Sept 12, 2022 16:24:27 GMT
What happens if we use the skill on a general with equal or higher capability? (for example subutai in territory battle) zero or is there a guaranteed minimum of damage? The damage is reduced but it is still there. Not a lot, but my underpowered Subutai around dealt about 150-170 dmg if my myopic eyes read the numbers correctly. Granted, I think inf gens with pure inf legions were the targets. |
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Post by jonblend on Nov 11, 2022 23:08:27 GMT
yuanzhong, do you know if there are differences in PoS points awarded for different unit upgrades? How does the quality/rarity of the unit weigh in or will there be more points at higher unit levels? For example, how much unused units intermediate upgrades (camel rider, war axe cav etc, levels 6-10) are equal to top tier units (templars, mamluks) at higher levels 12-15? The upgrades I did check gave 100-200 points, but maybe you know more on this topic 
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Post by yuanzhong on Nov 12, 2022 2:22:47 GMT
yuanzhong , do you know if there are differences in PoS points awarded for different unit upgrades? How does the quality/rarity of the unit weigh in or will there be more points at higher unit levels? For example, how much unused units intermediate upgrades (camel rider, war axe cav etc, levels 6-10) are equal to top tier units (templars, mamluks) at higher levels 12-15? The upgrades I did check gave 100-200 points, but maybe you know more on this topic The points you get from upgrading unit is increased by level and only depend on unit, not type, not tier. Below is data when I make a check. ![]()  |
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Post by mrlamo on Nov 13, 2022 9:32:13 GMT
yuanzhong , do you know if there are differences in PoS points awarded for different unit upgrades? How does the quality/rarity of the unit weigh in or will there be more points at higher unit levels? For example, how much unused units intermediate upgrades (camel rider, war axe cav etc, levels 6-10) are equal to top tier units (templars, mamluks) at higher levels 12-15? The upgrades I did check gave 100-200 points, but maybe you know more on this topic The points you get from upgrading unit is increased by level and only depend on unit, not type, not tier. Below is data when I make a check. ![]() so who do you think is stronger with weapon ? Timur or Subutai ? I haven’t finished to up the unit of timur so I don’t know |
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Post by yuanzhong on Nov 13, 2022 14:39:48 GMT
The points you get from upgrading unit is increased by level and only depend on unit, not type, not tier. Below is data when I make a check. ![]() so who do you think is stronger with weapon ? Timur or Subutai ? I haven’t finished to up the unit of timur so I don’t know I usually deploy super legion with Timur and Subutai on initial units. |
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Post by jonblend on Nov 13, 2022 22:31:33 GMT
yuanzhong , do you know if there are differences in PoS points awarded for different unit upgrades? How does the quality/rarity of the unit weigh in or will there be more points at higher unit levels? For example, how much unused units intermediate upgrades (camel rider, war axe cav etc, levels 6-10) are equal to top tier units (templars, mamluks) at higher levels 12-15? The upgrades I did check gave 100-200 points, but maybe you know more on this topic The points you get from upgrading unit is increased by level and only depend on unit, not type, not tier. Below is data when I make a check. ![]() Thanks for providing these data yuanzhong, very helpful for planning a route to Subutai's weapon with least amount of resources necessary. |
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Post by prebenh on Nov 24, 2022 17:14:49 GMT
Just noticed a typo in Moonshot lv7. It says "General skill: Archer Commander level +1" instead of Master Commander.
They just updated EW5 and probably mixed them up.
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Post by nikomachos on Nov 24, 2022 22:03:37 GMT
Just noticed a typo in Moonshot lv7. It says "General skill: Archer Commander level +1" instead of Master Commander. They just updated EW5 and probably mixed them up. no thats what his active is called..its little different than genghis and therefore has a different name. only archerpoints as reference for dmg. archercommander |
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