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Post by stoic on Aug 8, 2022 6:08:21 GMT
1. Cnut, Barbarossa and... Theodora (!) are your best friends. We have plenty of time at the start of the battle, so don't rush, take your time and prepare. Leadership is a very helpful skill in these circumstances.    Try get high moral before your generals start to attack  2. Medical tents are the best equipment for a f2p player. Don't upgrade their levels without necessity. 9 lvl 1 tents are more helpful in Expedition than 3 lvl 3 tents.  Take your chances and try to heal your troops whenever possible. Here is an example We don't kill an enemy until all our troops are healed  3. It is pretty obvious though not that easy to fulfill. The more generals you have the better! Currently I have only 33 generals and only 16 are battle worthy. It is enough for now, but I guess we should have at least 20-25 battle worthy generals with 3 units in a legion. Don't spend your pass coins until you are really stuck. It's better not to spend them at all at the moment, because there is a chance that Expedition battles will be more difficult in the future   |
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Post by playeruser37 on Aug 8, 2022 6:25:38 GMT
Thank You so much , i tried this after seeing this thread , and IT worked .
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Post by prebenh on Aug 8, 2022 8:15:21 GMT
I know there is a connection between morale and DMG dealt, but I wish someone could teach me more about how morale really works? Thanks.
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Post by verily on Aug 8, 2022 8:20:42 GMT
I also use that team of high morale. Barb-cnut-theo.
But addition of healers(antonina and adil) as i lack tent, but have wagons. Also have knights hospitalier for every legion, for +5% health.
Also prioritise to kill el cid and richard as they can kill a full legion.
Also stack pass coin(if you can reach it) for easy win in hard times and use it on double expedition events.
Having many generals also help in the long battle, if you lose to current fight and still have generals that can fight, it will continue the fight not reset, so those who you defeat will still be not available.
Thanks for the guide this is a great help for f2p.
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Post by stoic on Aug 8, 2022 9:13:37 GMT
I know there is a connection between morale and DMG dealt, but I wish someone could teach me more about how morale really works? Thanks. It is actually possible to read about these bonuses. Just tap on the "moral" icon in a legion window   |
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Post by Nobunaga Oda on Aug 8, 2022 12:53:33 GMT
stoic, do you use decoys (gens with 1-2 units in their legion)? I'm still unsure of the AI's attacking priorities, but if my decoys can at least soak up the initial blows, I can fight for a somewhat longer time. Better yet, if the gens have some fighting capability, they'll be able to contribute more. Some examples include John the Armenian, Athelfirth (Arson!), Ivar, Haldan Ragnarsson and most free gens.
Also, mobility is extremely important here if you aim to launch two attacks by the same gens to devastate enemy legions. I disperse some of my more mobile gens in between decoys and slower fighters to attack more than once, if the terrain allows me to do so.
Also, I think my post on War Gears still apply here. If your healing gears need to be used on someone else, withdraw the current user before you deploy the war gear on your intended user and the previous user's legion.
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Post by stoic on Aug 8, 2022 13:54:51 GMT
Nobunaga OdaI personally don't need it since I have enough generals with 3 units in a legion. Moreover I am profoundly suspicious of 2 units' legions. They are extremely fragile and offer no offense either. It's better, imo, to deploy full legions and only to use them as decoys when they are damaged, so that it would be possible to revive them later.
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Post by Sviatoslav I Igorevich on Aug 8, 2022 17:36:57 GMT
Nobunaga OdaI personally don't need it since I have enough generals with 3 units in a legion. Moreover I am profoundly suspicious of 2 units' legions. They are extremely fragile and offer no offense either. It's better, imo, to deploy full legions and only to use them as decoys when they are damaged, so that it would be possible to revive them later. Legions with 1-2 legions can win first 5-6 mission without using main or even full 3 squad. After this we can use them as decoys 5-6 mission, but then last 4 battle only main squad. PS. Yesterday at second battle I see 2 IAP generals with lvl 15 templars and mamluks, which can one shoot my best legions.  |
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Post by stoic on Aug 8, 2022 17:53:34 GMT
Nobunaga OdaI personally don't need it since I have enough generals with 3 units in a legion. Moreover I am profoundly suspicious of 2 units' legions. They are extremely fragile and offer no offense either. It's better, imo, to deploy full legions and only to use them as decoys when they are damaged, so that it would be possible to revive them later. Legions with 1-2 legions can win first 5-6 mission without using main or even full 3 squad. After this we can use them as decoys 5-6 mission, but then last 4 battle only main squad. PS. Yesterday at second battle I see 2 IAP generals with lvl 15 templars and mamluks, which can one shoot my best legions. Well, it is possible to win first battles without any problems at all with any possible team. Usually there are only several units who can't do any harm to our generals. There are exceptions, of course, but a single legion of Richard with lvl 15 Templars can't do much also. The most important thing is to kill him before he can kill some of our generals |
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Post by Sviatoslav I Igorevich on Aug 8, 2022 19:21:09 GMT
Legions with 1-2 legions can win first 5-6 mission without using main or even full 3 squad. After this we can use them as decoys 5-6 mission, but then last 4 battle only main squad. PS. Yesterday at second battle I see 2 IAP generals with lvl 15 templars and mamluks, which can one shoot my best legions. Well, it is possible to win first battles without any problems at all with any possible team. Usually there are only several units who can't do any harm to our generals. There are exceptions, of course, but a single legion of Richard with lvl 15 Templars can't do much also. The most important thing is to kill him before he can kill some of our generals Nope, my 1-2 legions generals can't damage this legions, deal only 1-2 damage, and take >800 damage and die. Of course I'm re roll this terrible fight, and after that I lose 2 generals from main squad at this second round, and need to heal first this generals after win 5 fights. PS. Maybe it was a cheater, or test account, or another piece of s... because even main squad generals take a lot damage in this battle. |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 9, 2022 11:14:32 GMT
More tips:
There are some OP heraldries (especially level 3) to reduce enemy morale, defence and attack. So, choose them wisely.
Morale gems is a good protection against Matilda, who is #1 annoying gen in the Expedition mode. So, all main gens should have them.
If you don't have many Tents you can use them on diffefent generals after every battle.
You can constantly change war gears, e.g.
1. equip mobility gear on start
2. equip damage gear on hitting enemy
3. equip protection gear on ending turn
4. equip heal gear on low HP
Keep all generals together, and make support gens to support even more with:
1. Templars (+5% damage)
2. Hospitallers (+5% heal)
3. Teutonics (+5% defence)
Having 5 supports gens gives extra +25% attack, defense and heal to every general around!
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Post by hrabrimalitoster on Aug 9, 2022 11:35:19 GMT
More tips: There are some OP heraldries (especially level 3) to reduce enemy morale, defence and attack. So, choose them wisely. Morale gems is a good protection against Matilda, who is #1 annoying gen in the Expedition mode. So, all main gens should have them. If you don't have many Tents you can use them on diffefent generals after every battle. You can constantly change war gears, e.g. 1. equip mobility gear on start 2. equip damage gear on hitting enemy 3. equip protection gear on ending turn 4. equip heal gear on low HP Keep all generals together, and make support gens to support even more with: 1. Templars (+5% damage) 2. Hospitallers (+5% heal) 3. Teutonics (+5% defence) Having 5 supports gens gives extra +25% attack, defense and heal to every general around! All that is nice, but here we are talking about f2p players, and f2p players don't have that much equipment, many strong Generals, Templars, Hospitallers, Teutonic, or at least not high level. |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 9, 2022 12:08:04 GMT
You don't need high level troops or strong generals, it will be still a +5% boost per legion. I use Matilda, Eleanor, Guinevere, Adil I and Theodora for this. They are pure support generals.
You don't need to change war gear several times per turn if you don't have much gear, but just starting with defensive gear (-25% damage), then switching it to heal is more effective than starting with heal - sometimes your gens don't even get damage.
Defense and heal gear are just must have.
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Post by visiel on Aug 9, 2022 12:19:19 GMT
More tips: There are some OP heraldries (especially level 3) to reduce enemy morale, defence and attack. So, choose them wisely. Morale gems is a good protection against Matilda, who is #1 annoying gen in the Expedition mode. So, all main gens should have them. If you don't have many Tents you can use them on diffefent generals after every battle. You can constantly change war gears, e.g. 1. equip mobility gear on start 2. equip damage gear on hitting enemy 3. equip protection gear on ending turn 4. equip heal gear on low HP Keep all generals together, and make support gens to support even more with: 1. Templars (+5% damage) 2. Hospitallers (+5% heal) 3. Teutonics (+5% defence) Having 5 supports gens gives extra +25% attack, defense and heal to every general around! Good suggestion; however players that want to follow these need to aware that: 1) When you change war gear, the one you change is unavailable for the rest of the battle. For example, if you have El Cid with your only tent and you gear him with cavalry protection, you won't able to wear the tent again for the rest of the battle. 2) Those 5% dmg/heal/defense DO NOT stack. I tested them 2 or 3 weeks ago in territory battle and posted that on Discord. Other users said it was like that from the beginning. So I have no idea where you get that 25% heal from but I can clearly tell you that when I do expedition 2 days ago, I didn't see that and I have mix of templar/hospitallers on my support generals (Theodora/Adil/Antonina/Sunicas _ For those who don't have Richard, he is a good available substitute). |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 9, 2022 12:37:48 GMT
Yes, you're right, I forgot about this. But still they are the best units for support gens. And yes, war gear is not available anymore. So, should think before changing anything. I normally start with defensive gear, then heal generals while I can, then equip heal gear to gens with low hp. I think for F2P it's even more important to wisely use heal gear. There is also heal heraldry, if you get it, you don't even need heal gear.
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