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Post by Warlord247 on Nov 19, 2022 10:10:47 GMT
Eugene V. Debs only Negotiations sounds like a good idea. If you have something in mind, like military or diplomatic help, let me know. If not we can try to arrange a price. As for factories, he usually makes the capital of the nation a factory, unless it's small like Luxembourg. Considering Romania is bigger than both Austria and Hungary, I think we're fine with assuming the capitol is a factory.
Sincerely,
Sir Kent, King of Austria-Hungary Only for Warlord247 Then, I will ask for a few hours to think about this, and then I will inform you accordingly, if it is okay for you? only Of course, take your time  in the meantime you main want to finish of the Romanians. They should capitulate once you take the capital. Sincerely, Sir Kent, King of Austria-Hungary |
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Post by Eugene V. Debs on Nov 19, 2022 10:15:00 GMT
After invading Bessarabia and Dobruja regions, the Soviet soldiers begin the invasion of the Muntenia region (which includes Bucharest too), which should be completed by the end of this page.
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Post by Kliment Jefremovitš Vorošilov on Nov 19, 2022 10:49:14 GMT
Hey Kliment Jefremovitš Vorošilov , I know you liked my post for the purposal on bonuses for tanks, guns, and aircraft. Did you want to use that system once the current wars are over? Or would you rather do something else? I think it's worth trying, although I think the values should be smaller. |
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Post by Warlord247 on Nov 19, 2022 10:54:12 GMT
Hey Kliment Jefremovitš Vorošilov , I know you liked my post for the purposal on bonuses for tanks, guns, and aircraft. Did you want to use that system once the current wars are over? Or would you rather do something else? I think it's worth trying, although I think the values should be smaller. Alrighty, what would you suggest? |
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Post by Kliment Jefremovitš Vorošilov on Nov 19, 2022 10:57:06 GMT
Only for Eugene V. Debs 1. I do not have anything against socialists in Spain, but I would hope that once the Nationalists are defeated free elections would take place and the political repression by SIM (secret agency) would end. I am sure that socialists and communists have a good chance in free elections too and the dictatorship of Negrín isn't needed (who isn't even really a communist. Also, Austria agreed to withdraw everything. Only for Kliment Jefremovitš Vorošilov I understand your concerns and want to confirm that we will be careful about these issues. Though, I cannot promise for free elections. Hitler came by free elections too, so free elections doesn't mean democracy or humanity at all. The socialist regime will continue with our influence, though we will make sure everyone has a right to contribute to the policies and state their opinions, so there won't be a respressive dictatorship (and this is against humanity anyway, which is one of our principles), and democratic principles, as people say, will be applied under the socialist regime (as long as it doesn't violate socialism, like free market), and we will protect Spain and this fair order.
I hope that this is okay for you, since you don't have anything against socialists, a regime that respects humanity is enough, I assume? In fact, as an anecdote, even Léon Blum is socialist, and Daladier is from the Radical-Socialist party. Only for Eugene V. Debs, We do not have anything against socialism as an ideology, but the undisputable truth is that Juan Negrín's "socialist" government is not only repressive, but totally incompetent in handling the war. All they focus on are propaganda victories that have made the republic unable to fight against the fascists. The government has to be changed and I firmly believe the best course is through democratic elections. The Republican people are very leftist, they just don't like the Communist party of Spain. And fascists, by this I mean real fascists, and monarchists fighting for Franco won't be let to vote.
Also, the Basque, the Catalonians and the anarchists should be given the autonomy they want. |
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Post by Kliment Jefremovitš Vorošilov on Nov 19, 2022 10:57:28 GMT
I think it's worth trying, although I think the values should be smaller. Alrighty, what would you suggest? Maybe half of your initial values. |
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Post by Warlord247 on Nov 19, 2022 11:03:18 GMT
Alrighty, what would you suggest? Maybe half of your initial values. Mmm, that'd give us half values tho. We'd have to tweak the damage system to account for them. Oh, that reminds me, did you see my suggestions for attacks over +5? |
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Post by Eugene V. Debs on Nov 19, 2022 14:00:11 GMT
Only for Kliment Jefremovitš Vorošilov I understand your concerns and want to confirm that we will be careful about these issues. Though, I cannot promise for free elections. Hitler came by free elections too, so free elections doesn't mean democracy or humanity at all. The socialist regime will continue with our influence, though we will make sure everyone has a right to contribute to the policies and state their opinions, so there won't be a respressive dictatorship (and this is against humanity anyway, which is one of our principles), and democratic principles, as people say, will be applied under the socialist regime (as long as it doesn't violate socialism, like free market), and we will protect Spain and this fair order.
I hope that this is okay for you, since you don't have anything against socialists, a regime that respects humanity is enough, I assume? In fact, as an anecdote, even Léon Blum is socialist, and Daladier is from the Radical-Socialist party. Only for Eugene V. Debs, We do not have anything against socialism as an ideology, but the undisputable truth is that Juan Negrín's "socialist" government is not only repressive, but totally incompetent in handling the war. All they focus on are propaganda victories that have made the republic unable to fight against the fascists. The government has to be changed and I firmly believe the best course is through democratic elections. The Republican people are very leftist, they just don't like the Communist party of Spain. And fascists, by this I mean real fascists, and monarchists fighting for Franco won't be let to vote.
Also, the Basque, the Catalonians and the anarchists should be given the autonomy they want. Only for Kliment Jefremovitš VorošilovRepressive management can be solved, and new ministers can be assigned, and mistakes can be compensated. Also, everyone makes mistakes. For example, France's previous governments pursued those useless appeasement policies against Germany and let them rearm Rhineland, and so did the United Kingdom. All previous leaders of Europe should have done a lot of things differently, but we cannot turn the clock back. We have the present, and we should focus on "the now", learning from the mistakes of the past. I agree that mistakes were made, and I believe that they can be compensated. Because complaining about the past won't solve anything, but combining forces will solve everything. United we stand, divided we fall. Which one would you like? I choose the first one, uniting and standing against the fascists. As you know as well, Spain can win the war only by uniting. Hence, we should all combine our forces, not fight with each other. Also, free elections does not necessarily always mean democracy. Spanish people have chosen revolution, and we should help them. Anarcists led to a real revolution in Catalonia on the first days of the war, which I admire, and you don't seem to have a problem with the anarcists either, right? Since you don't have a problem with the left, where is the problem then? Negrin? He doesn't mean or equal to all leftists, and a new leader from the real left can be assigned. And I agree that, as I've already said, mistakes were made. And therefore, it is now time to fix the past now, if we don't want the humanity to be destroyed. Anarchists, socialists and communists, the left can unite, just as they have done in the Popular Front. Although their methods are differrent, their ultimate aim is the same: a equal, progressive, humanist world without classes and bloodshed. Yes, the methods are different, but the aim is the same. Also, dividing will only give birth to fascism. But uniting benefits and saves everyone. The May Days was a embarrasing event for both sides, and we shouldn't let such a thing happen again. We should all unite, this time really unite, putting our differences aside, and learning from the past. Fighting with each other will only cause to the collapse of the world, against the fascists. There is a revolution in Spain. This is the Spanish people's free choice. You said you don't have a problem with socialists. And we, the Union of Soviet Socialist Republics and the Comintern, will protect the left against fascists, monarchists and all those who support them. So, our aim seems the same. Then, it is crystal clear that we shouldn't let Spain divide, as it collapsed in Popular Front before. Then, where and how will France stand in this issue? (Manchester  ) United? (  I haven't forgotten that you're a United fan) We believe and trust France, and hope so do you to us. And please, do not forget whatever happens: United we stand, divided we fall; because we are only as strong as we are united, as weak as we are divided. The whole history, the whole, undisputable history, has shown us this. |
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Post by Darth Nihilus on Nov 19, 2022 15:14:16 GMT
The Romanians have concentrated most of their remaining 10k troops (let's say 8k or so) to defend Bucharest, which means only a select 2k or so troops are remaining in Moldovia. It is time to take that region as well.
High risk attack
Poland: 300 k troops
500 tanks
50 fighters, 50 bombers
Romania: 2k troops
Negligible airforce
Bonuses:
Poland: Air superiority (+1), troop advantage (+2), armoured supremacy (+1), Travel (-1), slightly low morale(-0.5), fatigue(-1)
Romania: Defense (+1), low morale (-2), retreating (-1), fatigue(-1)
Game score difference: 4.5 -> dice advantage of +3
I need a 5 to win.
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Post by Darth Nihilus on Nov 19, 2022 15:25:03 GMT
The Romanians only offer sporadic resistance and as a result we capture most of Moldavia, as south as Barlad, without significant casualties.
I meant to put a troop advantage of +2.5 cause we outnumber them 150 to 1, so that makes the dice advantage +4.
Kill points:
Romania: 46.821*2000 = 93642
ie. 936 dead
Poland: 400 dead, 2 tanks destroyed
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Post by Warlord247 on Nov 19, 2022 15:34:17 GMT
Hey Darth Nihilus, I was wondering how you calculate your attacks and stuff. I usually use the bonuses as direct effects on the dice roll, and I use the casualty percentages from page 1. Do you do it differently? Because our casualties and bonuses never add up exactly right (though they are close) |
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Post by Kliment Jefremovitš Vorošilov on Nov 19, 2022 15:46:45 GMT
Maybe half of your initial values. Mmm, that'd give us half values tho. We'd have to tweak the damage system to account for them. Oh, that reminds me, did you see my suggestions for attacks over +5? Yeah, but invading countries with an inferior army is already way too easy. |
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Post by Darth Nihilus on Nov 19, 2022 15:55:31 GMT
Hey Darth Nihilus , I was wondering how you calculate your attacks and stuff. I usually use the bonuses as direct effects on the dice roll, and I use the casualty percentages from page 1. Do you do it differently? Because our casualties and bonuses never add up exactly right (though they are close) I use similar casualty percentages as page 1, but instead of doing a direct percentage I use this thing called a "kill score", so basically like if you would have lost 25% of your force then you get 25 points times the number of troops you have. Then I distribute those points among infantry (100), tanks (500), guns (500), and airforce (1000). That means the casualties I come up with aren't EXACTLY a hard percentage, but are slightly varied. |
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Post by Warlord247 on Nov 19, 2022 16:13:07 GMT
Mmm, that'd give us half values tho. We'd have to tweak the damage system to account for them. Oh, that reminds me, did you see my suggestions for attacks over +5? Yeah, but invading countries with an inferior army is already way too easy. That's fair. For the bonuses past 5 we could prolly get rid of 6 and 7 and just have 10. My logic is that if you're that superior to your enemy then it makes sense for the fight to be quick. Plus, it prevents long drawn out slogs for countries you completely dominate but can't destroy their whole army fast enough. As for halfing the values that's fine, we could make the .5 bonus on rolls be a about a 1.5 increase from the roll before (1.25 if the number ahead of it is already 1.5). Something that could be interesting though would be the ability to research to increase the bonus certain units give. For example, upgrading tanks from a +1 (under the new halved system) to a +1.5. I think it should take about 7 pages per .5, but that's up to you. I also think that if we use this system then upgrading their bonus and reducing their drawbacks should be separate. For example, you can upgrade a tanks main cannon to give you a +2 bonus. Guns however still have their +3 (or whatever you want it to be under the halved system) against tanks, which ignores the tanks bonus. The only way to reduce the effectiveness of the Guns bonus is to increase the tanks Armour. Same with Guns. Increasing firepower increases their general bonus, but to decrease the risk of bombers you have to increase mobility. This brings into question how research would work tho. We could make it to where each player has a single research, which would be most balanced. We could make it to where countries have a certain amount, like factories, but that could lead to some players being left behind. We could make it where each country has 1, so it incentives invasion, and makes player conflict more likely. But considering I'm currently 4 countries in a trench coat, that would give me a running start. Another idea, and one I think could be interesting, would be factories being used for both production AND research, with the player having to pick between. This could still give bigger countries a research advantage over smaller countries, but at the cost of losing 1 or more factories for at least 7 pages. Of course, you don't have to implement the research stuff in any form. Just an idea I think would add even more tactical value to the new bonus system, since you'd have to prioritize certain units, and with the last system you'd also have to manage the balance between production and research. |
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Post by Warlord247 on Nov 19, 2022 16:14:19 GMT
Hey Darth Nihilus , I was wondering how you calculate your attacks and stuff. I usually use the bonuses as direct effects on the dice roll, and I use the casualty percentages from page 1. Do you do it differently? Because our casualties and bonuses never add up exactly right (though they are close) I use similar casualty percentages as page 1, but instead of doing a direct percentage I use this thing called a "kill score", so basically like if you would have lost 25% of your force then you get 25 points times the number of troops you have. Then I distribute those points among infantry (100), tanks (500), guns (500), and airforce (1000). That means the casualties I come up with aren't EXACTLY a hard percentage, but are slightly varied. Ahhh, that makes more sense. Hmm, maybe I'll switch to that system. Makes casualties more even. What about your bonuses? Those seem a tad tweaked too |
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in the meantime you main want to finish of the Romanians. They should capitulate once you take the capital.
) United? (
I haven't forgotten that you're a United fan) 
