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Post by Kliment Jefremovitš Vorošilov on Nov 19, 2022 19:53:51 GMT
Only for Eugene V. Debs It's alright, i'll have my reinforcements coming to Turkey too. I haven't transported anything, but infantry so far and I've done that assuming a plane can carry 50 soldiers. I think guns and tank would be irl faster transport by truck than by plane.
Only for Kliment Jefremovitš Vorošilov Oh, right. So, how do you transport yours? Assuming with the standard speed written in the original document, so 120km per page, it will take roughly near 15 pages or thereabouts for my armies to arrive in the Turkish border from Belarus (their location), as well as -3 travel effect, according to the latest document. The other way is via the Black Sea, to move the armies to a place which has coast, let's say Crimea, in roughly 9 pages to then land in one of Turkey's cities, after a naval journey, though we don't have definitive rules about landing speed, transportation limits with navy etc. yet, so these are what I was thinking about today first. Only for Eugene V. DebsI haven't read the latest document, but a truck transporting, well anything, can cover easily atleast 200 km a day, and you surely have some reserves too right? I can't imagine that it should take more than 5 pages, probably less if you have armies closer. |
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Post by Warlord247 on Nov 19, 2022 20:06:09 GMT
a Final all out attack to finish of the enemy. Their troops have a +1 morale from their recent victories, while mine have +1 from the resounding victories a few pages ago (originally +2, but it's drained some) they have a +1 defensive bonus, I have -.5 from distance. I have +2 encirclement (with the Soviets), +2.5 outnumber (Army Henrich under Field Marshall Gerd von Rundstedt's command, Panzer army I under Guderian's command, and artillery army 1). I also have -1 from fatigue.
The total bonus is +3. Need a 5 to win
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Post by Eugene V. Debs on Nov 19, 2022 20:09:30 GMT
Only for Kliment Jefremovitš Vorošilov and Darth NihilusAfter my talks with them, I've learnt that Austria-Hungary wants to have the city of Bucharest, as it is supposed to have Romania's factory. Although I didn't guarantee an agreement or anything else, I've started negotiations to see what we can gain from there, if anything, since there's no harm in talking, and have come here to see what your opinions are. So, is there something you want? I think we can gain something like disarmament of Transylvania except for, let's say 100,000 men. Or, the same of Koenigsberg and/or German-Polish border, since there's already only one Austria-Hungarian army on the French border as Kliment Jefremovitš Vorošilov said before. If there's nothing we can gain, then we can basically reject, that's why I told them at the beginning that I didn't guarantee anything. And so, I've come here to see what your opinions about this are. |
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Post by Warlord247 on Nov 19, 2022 20:15:47 GMT
The Romanians take 424 casualties, and are left with 1,116 men. +3 on an all out attack significantly lowers morale, leaving the Romanians with a -1 debuff.
Army Group Henrich faces 21,335 casualties, and is left with 245,353 men.
Panzer army I takes 46 casualties, and is left with 529 Panzers.
My men gain a morale boost, and now have a +2 bonus instead of a +1 bonus.
the current advantage is +6. Need 2 to win
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Post by Darth Nihilus on Nov 19, 2022 20:19:37 GMT
Only for Kliment Jefremovitš Vorošilov and Darth Nihilus After my talks with them, I've learnt that Austria-Hungary wants to have the city of Bucharest, as it is supposed to have Romania's factory. Although I didn't guarantee an agreement or anything else, I've started negotiations to see what we can gain from there, if anything, since there's no harm in talking, and have come here to see what your opinions are. So, is there something you want? I think we can gain something like disarmament of Transylvania except for, let's say 100,000 men. Or, the same of Koenigsberg and/or German-Polish border, since there's already only one Austria-Hungarian army on the French border as Kliment Jefremovitš Vorošilov said before. If there's nothing we can gain, then we can basically reject, that's why I told them at the beginning that I didn't guarantee anything. And so, I've come here to see what your opinions about this are. Only for Kliment Jefremovitš Vorošilov, Eugene V. DebsThe inclusion of Bucharest in the Austria-Hungarian empire was not part of our original agreement with them. If they wish to expand their territory, they must cede Konigsberg at the very least. |
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Post by Warlord247 on Nov 19, 2022 20:22:12 GMT
The Romanian army is completely decimated, with only 446 men remaining, completely demoralized.
Austro-Hungarian forces take the city.
Henrich now contains 233,088 troops
Panzer Army I now contains 502 Panzers
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Post by Eugene V. Debs on Nov 19, 2022 20:29:11 GMT
Only for Kliment Jefremovitš Vorošilov and Darth Nihilus After my talks with them, I've learnt that Austria-Hungary wants to have the city of Bucharest, as it is supposed to have Romania's factory. Although I didn't guarantee an agreement or anything else, I've started negotiations to see what we can gain from there, if anything, since there's no harm in talking, and have come here to see what your opinions are. So, is there something you want? I think we can gain something like disarmament of Transylvania except for, let's say 100,000 men. Or, the same of Koenigsberg and/or German-Polish border, since there's already only one Austria-Hungarian army on the French border as Kliment Jefremovitš Vorošilov said before. If there's nothing we can gain, then we can basically reject, that's why I told them at the beginning that I didn't guarantee anything. And so, I've come here to see what your opinions about this are. Only for Kliment Jefremovitš Vorošilov, Eugene V. DebsThe inclusion of Bucharest in the Austria-Hungarian empire was not part of our original agreement with them. If they wish to expand their territory, they must cede Konigsberg at the very least. Only for Darth Nihilus and Kliment Jefremovitš Vorošilov Yes, I thought that too, but they claim that they want the factory, and Koenigsberg has a factory too. So, they wouldn't have gained a new factory as they would have ceded the one in Koenigsberg, so they probably wouldn't accept, unless they still had the Koenigsberg factory, although it would be in our control to transport what they produce to Austria-Hungary, so if there was a war, we would basically be able to cut the transportation from the Koenigsberg factory, as the territory would be in our control, although still producing for them. But would this worth all the effort and benefit us, or even if yes, would they accept it? We can't be sure. |
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Post by Darth Nihilus on Nov 19, 2022 20:33:14 GMT
Only for Darth Nihilus and Kliment Jefremovitš Vorošilov Yes, I thought that too, but they claim that they want the factory, and Koenigsberg has a factory too. So, they wouldn't have gained a new factory as they would have ceded the one in Koenigsberg, so they probably wouldn't accept, unless they still had the Koenigsberg factory, although it would be in our control to transport what they produce to Austria-Hungary, so if there was a war, we would basically be able to cut the transportation from the Koenigsberg factory, as the territory would be in our control, although still producing for them. But would this worth all the effort and benefit us, or even if yes, would they accept it? We can't be sure. Only for Eugene V. Debs, Kliment Jefremovitš VorošilovI have naval superiority in Polish waters so even if they kept Konigsberg I could just install a naval blockade on them, rendering it useless unless they only produce aircraft.
But you do make a good point. In that case we'll have to go for demilitarization of certain zones. |
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Post by Warlord247 on Nov 19, 2022 20:45:34 GMT
Eugene V. Debs , Darth Nihilus , I am aware of the initial terms of how we would split Romania, however considering how essential my army was in their defeat, I feel it only right I gain a bit more in the peace agreement. Here is my purposal:  Each country regains their rightful land, plus some, and the borders remain clean, with no weird territory grabs. Please inform me of your opinions on the matter.
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Post by Kliment Jefremovitš Vorošilov on Nov 19, 2022 20:53:34 GMT
Only for Eugene V. Debs and Darth NihilusI haven't been involved in this, but you made a deal and I suggest you go with it. Giving Bucharest will only make Austria-Hungary stronger. |
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Post by Kliment Jefremovitš Vorošilov on Nov 19, 2022 20:55:01 GMT
I heard there's dispute for the factory in Bucharest. Since Romania is so big I've also added a factory to Cluj-Napoca. Is this okay?
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Post by Warlord247 on Nov 19, 2022 21:06:30 GMT
I heard there's dispute for the factory in Bucharest. Since Romania is so big I've also added a factory to Cluj-Napoca. Is this okay? That's acceptable, however with how useful my army was during the war I am trying to negotiate a new peace treaty |
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Post by Eugene V. Debs on Nov 19, 2022 21:35:42 GMT
Two armies from southern Belarus and plus 600 extra tanks from Minsk begin moving to Armenian SSR-Turkey border.
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Post by Warlord247 on Nov 19, 2022 21:56:29 GMT
With the factory in Cluj-Napocai begin producing 25 fighters, and I change the production of one factory from 60 guns to 45 AA
Production is:
30 bombers
25 fighters
120 Panzers
120 guns
45 AA
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Post by Warlord247 on Nov 20, 2022 1:54:08 GMT
Kliment Jefremovitš Vorošilov only Hey, I know I said the additon of the second factory was fine, but now that I've thought it over some it might be better to not included it. The factory in Romania's capital can serve to cause some tension between players, and could lead to some interesting outcomes. The final decision is up to you ofc. Just thought I'd give my 2 cents
Sincerely,
Warlord247
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