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Post by Eugene V. Debs on Nov 20, 2022 12:00:34 GMT
Only for Darth NihilusWhat do you think about Austria-Hungary's request to have more territory and their suggestion with the map? About that map, I imagine an improvement like this, if we are still to give them extra territory: we will keep Bucharest and its factory and some territory between Bucharest and our border with them as an shield to Bucharest, while they can have the western territory along the Bulgarian border. Basically we will have eastern part of the Bulgarian border plus Bucharest with some extra territory around it and between us and them, and they can have the western part of the Bulgarian border as well as Transylvania. We will have the Bucharest factory and they will have the Cluj-Napoca factory. In other words we will have the eastern half of the country and they will have the western part. I think we should definetely keep Bucharest and its factory to us, since they will already have the other factory in Cluj-Napoca, and they will already have new territory in the south, which wasn't in your original agreement, so I believe we shouldn't give more. I imagine a map like this:  Also, we can talk later about the factory and let me know if there's a special region you want and we can talk about that later, I made this map just to suggest a general idea based on Austria-Hungary's suggestion with the improvements I've written above, as an basis for new possible chances, as it can definetely be improved. Also, the other choice is to reject giving any land except the original Transylvania, though this might mean a war if they doesn't step back. Are we ready for such a thing now (since France is also busy in Spain and Turkey, and I'll start attacking Turkey soon too), and if yes, would it worth it? So, what is your opinion about these? |
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Post by Warlord247 on Nov 20, 2022 14:43:13 GMT
I meant to say this last page, but infantry recruitment started on page 30 (since it's an even number). every 10 pages everyone gets 2% more troops (so by page 40), or every 5 pages you're in combat (they don't have to be consecutive, but you have to have 5 pages of combat in under 10 pages, otherwise it doesn't take effect)
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Post by Kliment Jefremovitš Vorošilov on Nov 20, 2022 15:01:34 GMT
Fresh reinforcements have arrived to Portugal. 200,000 of them will be tasked with eliminating all remaining pockets of resistance south of Porto. 100,000 of them will occupy the southern part of Lisbon. 300 bombers and 600 fighters are flown to Portugal. They bomb heavily enemy positions in Lisbon and Porto. There are only a few thousand defending Lisbon. 100,000 soldiers will attack to destroy the remaining resistance. They need a 5 to win, and 7 or higher will probably let me capture Lisbon. MDFI07ELNow, 100,000 of the reinforcements along with 200 tanks attack Porto. If Lisbon has fallen (roll above) 5 is neeed to win, if not 6. Glorious triumph! The Portuguese armed forces have surrendered today 8:00 AM to the French liberators! Due to failure to respond to the French ultimatum, France declares war on Turkey. 200,000 infantry and 200 tanks immediately attack from the border Kilis to Jarabulus. 100,000 attack Akbez. The Turkish have 500,000 soldiers, 900 tanks and 1800 guns. I'd say it's fair to say that about half of them are in the south. For the first attack the opposing army for Turkey probably 150,000 infantry, 350 tanks and 650 guns. Which means it's 455,000 against 300,000, which means 9 to win. ep3vn|3cFor the second attack, the remaining forces are defending, that is 100,000 infantry, 100 tanks and 250 guns, which equals 200,000, so 9 to win. 4000 guns and 1500 tanks are transported to Portugal. 2000 guns, 200 bombers and 300 fighters are transported to Syria. 1500 guns and 1000 tanks are transported to Pau. Only for Eugene V. Debs You can attack now. Also, after we defeat Turkey, I think it would be fair that you get Istanbul and its factory and I get Ankara and its. The fight for liberation of the Iberian Peninsula from Fascism is not yet over. We still have to help democracy and freedom prevail in Spain. I remember Antony Beevor describing in detail the locations of Spanish armies in 1938, although I can't accurately remember them I think it was probably like 50,000 in the North East, 300,000 near Madrid and 250,000 in the south + 50,000 in Morocco. Guns (~1500) and tanks (~650) should be divided similarily. 300 bombers escorted by 600 fighters make a surprise air raid on Nationalist positions near San Sebastián. 10 bombers are lost. With the artillery support of 1500 guns, the 10th and 11th army cross the border river Bidasoa to Irun. I have a -3 numerical advantage, but the Spanish are defending a narrow pass and a river, which gives them +2, so I need 7 to win. L3qbEnVsIn Morocco, the 30th army attacks Ketama and it's 25,000 defenders and 35 guns. It's so close to being under 3:1, so I'll have it 6 to win. In eastern Morocco 50,000 soldiers and 100 tanks attack Zeluán. Here too I need a 6 to win. Ketama Zeluán In Portugal, 50,000 infantry eliminate remaining resistance and are stationed in Vila Real. 100,000 infantry, 800 guns and 500 tanks move to Idanha a Nova. All the rest of the forces in Portugal move to Elvas. In Turkey, our forces have been forced to retreat.  The point total of the Turkish army in the region is 655,000 minus casualties. For us it was previously 400,000 minus casualties, but now it is 800,000 minus casualties after 2000 guns have arrived. We attack on the whole front. It is an equal battle and 8 is needed to win. (All attacks are medium risk) ······· |
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Post by Warlord247 on Nov 20, 2022 16:48:44 GMT
With the factory in Bucharest currently under Austro-Hungarian control while we work out the peace deal, I temporarily put it into production making panzers. Due to it being only under occupational use, it'll produce at half capacity, bringing my total panzer production to 135
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Post by Darth Nihilus on Nov 20, 2022 17:01:59 GMT
Only for Darth Nihilus What do you think about Austria-Hungary's request to have more territory and their suggestion with the map? About that map, I imagine an improvement like this, if we are still to give them extra territory: we will keep Bucharest and its factory and some territory between Bucharest and our border with them as an shield to Bucharest, while they can have the western territory along the Bulgarian border. Basically we will have eastern part of the Bulgarian border plus Bucharest with some extra territory around it and between us and them, and they can have the western part of the Bulgarian border as well as Transylvania. We will have the Bucharest factory and they will have the Cluj-Napoca factory. In other words we will have the eastern half of the country and they will have the western part. I think we should definetely keep Bucharest and its factory to us, since they will already have the other factory in Cluj-Napoca, and they will already have new territory in the south, which wasn't in your original agreement, so I believe we shouldn't give more. I imagine a map like this: Also, we can talk later about the factory and let me know if there's a special region you want and we can talk about that later, I made this map just to suggest a general idea based on Austria-Hungary's suggestion with the improvements I've written above, as an basis for new possible chances, as it can definetely be improved. Also, the other choice is to reject giving any land except the original Transylvania, though this might mean a war if they doesn't step back. Are we ready for such a thing now (since France is also busy in Spain and Turkey, and I'll start attacking Turkey soon too), and if yes, would it worth it? So, what is your opinion about these? Only for Eugene V. DebsYeah, that works fine. I don't think it would be reasonable for us to invade Romania and then end up with only territory and nothing else of value.
I also agree that a conflict with Austria-Hungary wouldn't be feasible right now since we're busy elsewhere.
As for how the factory will be split between us, I think we could each hold the factory for 5 pages and alternate or something. |
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Post by Warlord247 on Nov 20, 2022 17:08:46 GMT
Eugene V. Debs , Darth Nihilus , (btw if yall are discussing the peace deal the best place to make maps is mapchart. Click on the one that says Romania, and switch counties to "show")
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Post by Eugene V. Debs on Nov 20, 2022 17:33:44 GMT
Only for Warlord247 and Darth Nihilus Here is my suggestion about the issue of the distribution of Romania, which is our joint stance with Poland on this issue: You will get the factory in Cluj-Napoca, and we will get the factory in Bucharest. As you know as well, the original agreement, which was made between you and Poland, was that you would take only Transylvania. Nevertheless, we will let you take new territory in south of Transylvania, because of your contribution to the war. Other than that, basically, you will get the western half of the country, and we will get the western half. Considering that we split it between ourselves, you will have the biggest territory, we believe that you will naturally understand that we will not be giving more territory or factory. Note that you will have already got Transylvania, the original part of yours, and extra territory to the original one due to the your contribution to the war, which you claimed too, and you will get that anyway. Therefore, since there's nothing for anyone to claim more, I believe there is no conflict, and shouldn't be anyway, considering the equality of the terms. And it is crystal clear that this is the most logical and equal distribution possible and will serve the best interests of all of us. |
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Post by Warlord247 on Nov 20, 2022 17:38:56 GMT
Only for Warlord247 and Darth Nihilus Here is my suggestion about the issue of the distrubution of Romania, which is our joint stance with Poland on this issue: You will get the factory in Cluj-Napoca, and we will get the factory in Bucharest. As you know as well, the original agreement, which was made between you and Poland, was that you would take only Transylvania. Nevertheless, we will let you take new territory in south of Transylvania, because of your contribution to the war. Other than that, basically, you will get the western half of the country, and we will get the western half. Considering that we split it between ourselves, you will have the biggest territory, we believe that you will naturally understand that we will not be giving more territory or factory. Note that you will have already got Transylvania, the original part of yours, and extra territory to the original one due to the your contribution to the war, which you claimed too, and you will get that anyway. Therefore, since there's nothing for anyone to claim more, I believe there is no conflict, and shouldn't be anyway, considering the equality of the terms. And it is crystal clear that this is the most logical and equal distrubution possible and will serve the best interests of all of us. and Darth Nihilus only With the new factory in Transylvania these terms are accepted. Only person left who needs to decide is Poland |
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Post by Warlord247 on Nov 20, 2022 17:40:56 GMT
Though I do have a question: can I finish my production run of 15 tanks in Bucharest, since I already started it?
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Post by Eugene V. Debs on Nov 20, 2022 17:49:44 GMT
Only for Warlord247 and Darth Nihilus Here is my suggestion about the issue of the distrubution of Romania, which is our joint stance with Poland on this issue: You will get the factory in Cluj-Napoca, and we will get the factory in Bucharest. As you know as well, the original agreement, which was made between you and Poland, was that you would take only Transylvania. Nevertheless, we will let you take new territory in south of Transylvania, because of your contribution to the war. Other than that, basically, you will get the western half of the country, and we will get the western half. Considering that we split it between ourselves, you will have the biggest territory, we believe that you will naturally understand that we will not be giving more territory or factory. Note that you will have already got Transylvania, the original part of yours, and extra territory to the original one due to the your contribution to the war, which you claimed too, and you will get that anyway. Therefore, since there's nothing for anyone to claim more, I believe there is no conflict, and shouldn't be anyway, considering the equality of the terms. And it is crystal clear that this is the most logical and equal distrubution possible and will serve the best interests of all of us. and Darth Nihilus only With the new factory in Transylvania these terms are accepted. Only person left who needs to decide is Poland Only for Warlord247 and Darth NihilusAs I've only said in the first paragraph, this suggestion has already been agreed by them too, during our secret talks.
Therefore, getting the confirmation of all the relevant sides, the new borders shall be valid from now on. |
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Post by Warlord247 on Nov 20, 2022 17:54:40 GMT
Eugene V. Debs and Darth Nihilus only With the new factory in Transylvania these terms are accepted. Only person left who needs to decide is Poland Only for Warlord247 and Darth Nihilus As I've only said in the first paragraph, this suggestion has already been agreed by them too, during our secret talks.
Therefore, getting the confirmation of all the relevant sides, the new borders shall be valid from now on. Previously tagged parties only Oops, I didn't see the top part, my bad |
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Post by Warlord247 on Nov 20, 2022 18:04:43 GMT
Eugene V. Debs, , Kliment Jefremovitš Vorošilov, and Darth Nihilus (the allies) only Now that the Romanian question is settled I wish to reopen the conversation of reclaimingmy rightful territories. As I've made both Poland and France aware, and as I'm sure the USSR has heard, Czechoslovakia is a vital part of the Austro-Hungarian empire, and rightfully belongs to us. I wish to work out a deal in which the false country is peacefully annexed back into the empire.
Another core province is that of Northern Slovenia, and once again I would like to work out a peaceful annexation.
Please, think it over. I hope we can all reach an agreement that suits all parties.
Sincerely,
Sir Kent, King of Austria-Hungary
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Post by Eugene V. Debs on Nov 20, 2022 18:15:10 GMT
Only for Warlord247 and Darth Nihilus As I've only said in the first paragraph, this suggestion has already been agreed by them too, during our secret talks.
Therefore, getting the confirmation of all the relevant sides, the new borders shall be valid from now on. Previously tagged parties only Oops, I didn't see the top part, my bad Only for those who have already been tagged It's okay, no problem.  As for your 15 tanks in production, we will reply to you about this as soon as we talk about it with Darth Nihilus, and so for now I can't guarantee anything. Until then, the tanks will be kept being waited and protected by our army, as the factory is located in my territory since the agreement was made. |
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Post by Warlord247 on Nov 20, 2022 18:57:28 GMT
I divert the production of 1 Panzer factory into research of an improved panzer cannon. This will take 7 pages to complete, and provide Austro-Hungarian Panzers with an increased fire power of .5
This leave me with a production of 90 panzers a page.
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Post by Eugene V. Debs on Nov 20, 2022 19:14:56 GMT
Only for Kliment Jefremovitš Vorošilov and Darth NihilusSo, as you have probably already seen as well, Austria-Hungary returned to the issue of Czechoslovakia. And the question is, what should be the stance of our alliance on this issue? France, in the past, guaranteed the independence of Czechoslovakia, and I guess you're continuing this, Kliment Jefremovitš Vorošilov, based on your previous reply about that issue when it occurred first time? Also, a Czechoslovakia being an Austria-Hungarian territory would corner Poland more addding to the all of Austria-Hungary's territory surrounding it, Konigsberg from the north and the German mainland from the west, and Czechoslovakia would be from the south. So, I think it is unthinkable to let them invade Czechoslovakia with these conditions, as it would be disadvantageous for all of us. The only thing is, as our rejection might make them declare war on us, are we ready to fight with Austria-Hungary in an event of war? Considering that France is already busy in Spain and Turkey, and that I'll attack Turkey too when my armies arrive, I'm a bit unsure about the answer. Of course, we can fight, what I mean is that, would waiting a bit more be better, or would it be better not to wait any more and act right now? And, on the other hand, we all know that appeasement policies have been useless so far, as we have seen in the previous years before now, and we can't let Austria-Hungary swallow Czechoslovakia and strengthen again, after uniting with Hungary and Germany, like a new Germany, unless there is an equal advantage for us. Furthermore, for example, in Romania, we have gained a factory and new territory in Romania, which will serve as an shield for us against them in an event of war with them. But this can't probably happen with Czechoslovakia, as they claim it as a whole. Moreover, Romania was a threat to us all, while Czechoslovakia is a country that is not corrupt and cannot be sacrificed for them to occupy, unless there is a very special reason and condition, which is unlikely in my opinion, at least right now. In conclusion, considering the previous points too, I think we should see if it is possible to find a solution, and if it isn't, then to fight if we are ready for a war. And what are your opinions on this matter? |
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