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Post by Kliment Jefremovitš Vorošilov on Apr 12, 2023 19:54:36 GMT
Also, Spanish army size would be 450,000 + 90,000
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Post by John Marston on Apr 13, 2023 16:26:01 GMT
I'll go with Spanish Republic. How many factories do I get? Welcome back to RPing, Nappy!  It'll be great to play with you again, I had missed it. About the factories, I think that we should wait for Kliment Jefremovitš Vorošilov 's reply, as he is the one who has prepared the forces and the factory numbers. If I were to guess, I'd say that you'd probably get approximately 2 or 3 factories. In 1938 (the starting year of this RP) the Republicans had already lost territory to the Nationalists since the beginning of the civil war, which may have included some industrial areas. Also, the Nationalists' factories aren't still specified either, and yours would be in connection with their factory number, as the country is divided to two, so naturally, the factories too. The numbers are only my guess, though. My readings about the Spanish Civil War has been more focused on memoirs (like Homage to Catalonia by George Orwell) and on the political aspect, rather than the military and industrial aspects, so I am not sure. Also, it is still not certain whether everyone still wants to continue, as the RP had been inactive for a while, so we're waiting for the rest of the players to reply, in order to decide the next course of action (and we are already only a few people, who controls the critical countries, so we wouldn't be able to continue if all of us weren't active anyway, unlike the previous big RPs). So, either way, we'll have to wait before we can take an action. Well, better than me. I just know the factions in the civil war. Nothing else. |
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Post by John Marston on Apr 13, 2023 16:29:47 GMT
John Marston , Eugene V. Debs , First of all great that you are able to play! I think I had thought about Spanish factories being in Bilbao (Nationalist territory), and in Madrid and Barcelona (Republican) - so 2 for you. Irl, the political left was strongest in the industrial cities, and thus, the Republican side had the control of most of them for almost the entirety of the war. As to taking the Spanish Republic, you can take it, but I'm not sure if its the optimal country for you to play with since I attacked and defeated the Nationalist forces earlier (due to the general inactivity, I had nothing to do, now I'm conquering Turkey). However, a situation in which France has occupied Portugal and has a military presence in part of Spain would be interesting to play. Anyways, the choice is yours, but you can also take the UK for example if you don't want to play Republican Spain after the Nationalists are already defeated. Muahahahaha. Then I'll just be a thorn in your side then  . I take Republican Spain. Also, what does 4,50,000 + 90,000 means? |
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Post by Kliment Jefremovitš Vorošilov on Apr 13, 2023 16:56:30 GMT
John Marston , Eugene V. Debs , First of all great that you are able to play! I think I had thought about Spanish factories being in Bilbao (Nationalist territory), and in Madrid and Barcelona (Republican) - so 2 for you. Irl, the political left was strongest in the industrial cities, and thus, the Republican side had the control of most of them for almost the entirety of the war. As to taking the Spanish Republic, you can take it, but I'm not sure if its the optimal country for you to play with since I attacked and defeated the Nationalist forces earlier (due to the general inactivity, I had nothing to do, now I'm conquering Turkey). However, a situation in which France has occupied Portugal and has a military presence in part of Spain would be interesting to play. Anyways, the choice is yours, but you can also take the UK for example if you don't want to play Republican Spain after the Nationalists are already defeated. Muahahahaha. Then I'll just be a thorn in your side then . I take Republican Spain. Also, what does 4,50,000 + 90,000 means? We had 20% extra recruitment for the first 20 pages. However, I think your initial army size was 600,000 so 720,000 now. |
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Post by John Marston on Apr 14, 2023 7:52:30 GMT
Muahahahaha. Then I'll just be a thorn in your side then . I take Republican Spain. Also, what does 4,50,000 + 90,000 means? We had 20% extra recruitment for the first 20 pages. However, I think your initial army size was 600,000 so 720,000 now. So...are we continuing this? |
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Post by John Marston on Apr 14, 2023 7:55:07 GMT
I think a map would be useful at this point. I can do it, but I'd have to read the entire thing and the device I am on isn't the best for doing maps.
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Post by Kliment Jefremovitš Vorošilov on Apr 14, 2023 8:01:46 GMT
We had 20% extra recruitment for the first 20 pages. However, I think your initial army size was 600,000 so 720,000 now. So...are we continuing this? Yes, so in conclusion, you have an army if 720,000. |
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Post by John Marston on Apr 14, 2023 8:11:26 GMT
One of my factories produce guns, and the other tanks. I am open to negotiations.
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Post by Eugene V. Debs on Apr 14, 2023 9:08:46 GMT
I think a map would be useful at this point. I can do it, but I'd have to read the entire thing and the device I am on isn't the best for doing maps. I can do one if you'd like to, but I am not sure of the exact borders in some countries like Spain due to the changes after the war, so it may perhaps be better to write it by text instead. In order to summarise what has happened so far in terms of territory change, Austria ( Warlord247) has re-established Austria-Hungary (with the addition of Germany) and has invaded the western part of Romania. France ( Kliment Jefremovitš Vorošilov) has invaded Portugal, the Nationalist Spain and Albania and currently is invading Turkey. Myself (Soviet Union), Poland ( Darth Nihilus) and France has split the Baltic countries among ourselves. The rest of Romania (apart from Austria-Hungary's territory in Romania) is split between me and Poland. Also, Austria-Hungary has gifted Königsberg to Poland. As for the alliances, I'm not exactly sure. Italy has been offline for a few days and Poland hasn't replied in this thread since December. So, the alliances may change from now on as some of their members has gone offline (like Poland for my alliance). I am unaware whether Italy has established an alliance recently, at least it hasn't done so publicly. So, as I've said, things may change from now on. Also guys, please correct me if I remember something wrong or have forgotten something. |
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Post by Warlord247 on Apr 14, 2023 10:54:44 GMT
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Post by Kliment Jefremovitš Vorošilov on Apr 14, 2023 10:55:50 GMT
Only for John MarstonThe Armed Forces of the Republic of France have successfully defeated the Nationalist Army of Spain led by Francisco Franco, not to conquer or subdue Spain, but to liberate it from the Fascist threat. Now, we wish to establish friendly relations with the legitimate government of Spain, proposing the following terms. 1. To compensate for the losses of material and almost 200,000 soldiers, the non-Spanish Basque Country, and, with it the factory of Bilbao will be annexed to the French Republic. 2. The former possessions of the Kingdom of Spain in Morocco and Western Sahara, as well as the Canary Islands will be annexed to French Morocco. 3. France will annex the city of Tarifa in the Strait of Gibraltar, and will, due to the current unstable political situation in Europe, gain full military access to the province of Cadiz and the island of Majorca for 50 pages.  These requests for land may seem harsh, but I hope the Spanish government understands the full extent of the French efforts and losses suffered to free the country. The requests in no way are an ultimatum or meant to exert diplomatic pressure. More important than the terms above, we demand and offer some diplomatic terms: 4. The French and Spanish republics will enter a mutual military alliance, and commit to defending each other with all the required force against all external threats. 5. The government of Juan Negrín will step aside and democratic elections will be held in Spain. 6. Spain will not engage in any diplomatic activity with Austria-Hungary and will recognise it as a power initiating unjust aggression and diplomatic tension. 7. Spain will not form a military alliance with the Soviet Union and will not let its troops pass to its territory. |
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Post by Kliment Jefremovitš Vorošilov on Apr 14, 2023 10:56:26 GMT
Also, since we all seem to agree to continue, shall we start now or wait? I started already  |
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Post by Warlord247 on Apr 14, 2023 10:58:00 GMT
I'm fine with that Something you missed was war tension between me and Italy (happened after you went inactive) but the rp died down around that time. I tagged Italy's player to see if they'll respond. I've also contacted Darth Nihilus through discord, so hopefully they respond there |
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Post by Warlord247 on Apr 14, 2023 11:00:13 GMT
For Eugene V. Debs only I see it in our best interest to recruit Republic Spain to our cause. They also believe in the global revolution (at least some of their members) and will give us a chance to open a second front on France. What do you say?
Sincerely,
Sir Kent, King of Austria-Hungary |
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Post by Warlord247 on Apr 14, 2023 11:03:48 GMT
For John Marston only Greetings ruler of republican Spain, I have a preposition for you. However, I need you to guarantee you will not tell Kilmunt or his Allies of our talks. Do you agree?
Sincerely,
Sirkent, King of Austria-Hungary |
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It'll be great to play with you again, I had missed it.
. I take Republican Spain. Also, what does 4,50,000 + 90,000 means?
