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Post by Eugene V. Debs on Apr 14, 2023 11:03:50 GMT
For Eugene V. Debs only I see it in our best interest to recruit Republic Spain to our cause. They also believe in the global revolution (at least some of their members) and will give us a chance to open a second front on France. What do you say?
Sincerely,
Sir Kent, King of Austria-Hungary Only for Warlord247Yes, I agree. Plus, we have an advantage over France about this. France has already territory in Spain and Portugal, so they may not want to give up these to Spain. But we can return the Spanish territories to Spain, their righteous owner (and plus Portugal as a gift if we need to).
Also, I believe that we need a new plan in case Poland doesn't return, or Italy. Because our previous plan depended on both of them. |
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Post by Warlord247 on Apr 14, 2023 11:29:39 GMT
For Eugene V. Debs only I see it in our best interest to recruit Republic Spain to our cause. They also believe in the global revolution (at least some of their members) and will give us a chance to open a second front on France. What do you say?
Sincerely,
Sir Kent, King of Austria-Hungary Only for Warlord247 Yes, I agree. Plus, we have an advantage over France about this. France has already territory in Spain and Portugal, so they may not want to give up these to Spain. But we can return the Spanish territories to Spain, their righteous owner (and plus Portugal as a gift if we need to).
Also, I believe that we need a new plan in case Poland doesn't return, or Italy. Because our previous plan depended on both of them. For Eugene V. Debs only Great minds think alike Comrade, I had the exact same thing planned. I remember that you and Spain had much different views on communism. Will that be an issue, or does it matter not now that you've given yourself to the global cause?
Also, I find it important we reassert our claims, since the political scene has been at a standstill so long.
You and Poland share the Baltics, me I control the Balkans. We split Romania. And I have a claim on Czechoslovakia. I don't remember what we decided to do with France. Were we to split it when the war is done, or let their communist leaders take over?
If split it we can discuss our claims later, but I say we let Spain take Western France. I believe we should also give Spain Portugal. It spreads communism, and sweetens the deal for them joining us. What do you think Premier doctor?
Sincerely,
Sir Kent, King of Austro-Hungaria |
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Post by Kliment Jefremovitš Vorošilov on Apr 14, 2023 11:41:57 GMT
Only for John MarstonI want to talk a bit about the diplomatic situation informally and out of role too. So basically, at the very beginning of the RP I had a war with Italy and won eventually. Conversely, I had an alliance with Poland and the USSR. Then when Austria-Hungary started expanding I protested publicly and have been able to save Czechoslovakia. The USSR, however, as you can see, is constantly in talks with Austria-Hungary, and I don't think they are very unfriendly, for they already divided Romania. But basically, right now Austria-Hungary is my number one enemy, although we're not at war with each other yet, and Poland probably my closest ally. What I propose is a democratic triple alliance between me, you, and Poland maintaining friendly, but cautious, relations to the USSR unless they and Austria-Hungary start doing something. Then, since this is a Role Play, I ask for Morocco, and Tafira, as well as Bilbao for strategic reasons. |
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Post by Warlord247 on Apr 14, 2023 11:42:45 GMT
Current map (from what I remember):  I don't remember how far France pushed or how the baltics were split, so I left those blank |
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Post by Warlord247 on Apr 14, 2023 11:45:04 GMT
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Post by Kliment Jefremovitš Vorošilov on Apr 14, 2023 11:51:29 GMT
Here's another Europe-only map I made earlier.  |
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Post by Warlord247 on Apr 14, 2023 11:54:15 GMT
Looks good! Though I don't remember the winter war happening
Also, we should all go back and check what our upgrades were lol. And from now on we need to keep a personal copy of them.
Also what our factories were doing
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Post by Eugene V. Debs on Apr 14, 2023 11:57:00 GMT
Only for Warlord247 Yes, I agree. Plus, we have an advantage over France about this. France has already territory in Spain and Portugal, so they may not want to give up these to Spain. But we can return the Spanish territories to Spain, their righteous owner (and plus Portugal as a gift if we need to).
Also, I believe that we need a new plan in case Poland doesn't return, or Italy. Because our previous plan depended on both of them. For Eugene V. Debs only Great minds think alike Comrade, I had the exact same thing planned. I remember that you and Spain had much different views on communism. Will that be an issue, or does it matter not now that you've given yourself to the global cause?
Also, I find it important we reassert our claims, since the political scene has been at a standstill so long.
You and Poland share the Baltics, me I control the Balkans. We split Romania. And I have a claim on Czechoslovakia. I don't remember what we decided to do with France. Were we to split it when the war is done, or let their communist leaders take over?
If split it we can discuss our claims later, but I say we let Spain take Western France. I believe we should also give Spain Portugal. It spreads communism, and sweetens the deal for them joining us. What do you think Premier doctor?
Sincerely,
Sir Kent, King of Austro-Hungaria Only for Warlord247As long as they join the Comintern and be under our wings, I have no problem with different views. About France, you had said that France would be communist the last time we talked. Also, I believe that we will probably not need any more compensation for Spain to join. If we absolutely need to give it, then so be it. But for now, I'd say let's wait and see.
Also, about the Baltics, note that France has an territory on Latvia and Lithuania too. I believe that we should take those out to avoid an unnecessary front later on.
As for our post-war plans, I honestly want a communist world. The leftists have always hold back so far, but this is now time for The International to liberate the world.
Also, you will get to take Czechoslovakia and have already joined with Germany. But we, the Soviet Union, won't get an important territory gain. Even if France was communist, how can I protect it from the rest of those capitalists of the world, if I have no land connection with them? It would be a huge disadvantage. The same goes for Italy too. But both you and Spain would get your main lands bigger, without the problem of distance between your territories.
Plus, if Spain gets western France, my gains would be even tinier.
So, I believe that this seems highly unfair. Why will so much Soviet blood split then? For nothing? I apologise if the sentences above sound harsh, I don't mean to create a conflict. But I believe we can agree that the situation is completely unfair. My gains don't equate with the costs of a world war, while Spain can even get the western France, our gains aren't equal with our current territory. We are the biggest country of the world, and the biggest military of the world. Our gains are tiny against the costs (especially if we ever have to fight outside our motherland). |
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Post by Warlord247 on Apr 14, 2023 12:22:10 GMT
For Eugene V. Debs only Great minds think alike Comrade, I had the exact same thing planned. I remember that you and Spain had much different views on communism. Will that be an issue, or does it matter not now that you've given yourself to the global cause?
Also, I find it important we reassert our claims, since the political scene has been at a standstill so long.
You and Poland share the Baltics, me I control the Balkans. We split Romania. And I have a claim on Czechoslovakia. I don't remember what we decided to do with France. Were we to split it when the war is done, or let their communist leaders take over?
If split it we can discuss our claims later, but I say we let Spain take Western France. I believe we should also give Spain Portugal. It spreads communism, and sweetens the deal for them joining us. What do you think Premier doctor?
Sincerely,
Sir Kent, King of Austro-Hungaria Only for Warlord247 As long as they join the Comintern and be under our wings, I have no problem with different views. About France, you had said that France would be communist the last time we talked. Also, I believe that we will probably not need any more compensation for Spain to join. If we absolutely need to give it, then so be it. But for now, I'd say let's wait and see.
Also, about the Baltics, note that France has an territory on Latvia and Lithuania too. I believe that we should take those out to avoid an unnecessary front later on.
As for our post-war plans, I honestly want a communist world. The leftists have always hold back so far, but this is now time for The International to liberate the world.
Also, you will get to take Czechoslovakia and have already joined with Germany. But we, the Soviet Union, won't get an important territory gain. Even if France was communist, how can I protect it from the rest of those capitalists of the world, if I have no land connection with them? It would be a huge disadvantage. The same goes for Italy too. But both you and Spain would get your main lands bigger, without the problem of distance between your territories.
Plus, if Spain gets western France, my gains would be even tinier.
So, I believe that this seems highly unfair. Why will so much Soviet blood split then? For nothing? I apologise if the sentences above sound harsh, I don't mean to create a conflict. But I believe we can agree that the situation is completely unfair. My gains don't equate with the costs of a world war, while Spain can even get the western France, our gains aren't equal with our current territory. We are the biggest country of the world, and the biggest military of the world. Our gains are tiny against the costs (especially if we ever have to fight outside our motherland). only That is completely fair, and I plan to abide by France's change to communism if that is the case. I meant no offense, I simply forgot what we agreed to.
I believe that we should also release France's colonies as free communist states, not bound by their current borders. They should be able to return to their original tribal lands, instead of abiding by the random lines drawn by capitalist and imperialist pigs.
If we really need to sway Spain, we could always offer them a small portion of one of this colonies, temporarily, as long as they agree to treat them more as a commonwealth and not a colony. |
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Post by Kliment Jefremovitš Vorošilov on Apr 14, 2023 12:33:37 GMT
100,000 infantry, 500 tanks, and 500 guns attack Ankara's 140,000 defenders. I need a 6 to win.
rGT4EQAQ·
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Post by Eugene V. Debs on Apr 14, 2023 12:34:07 GMT
Only for Warlord247 As long as they join the Comintern and be under our wings, I have no problem with different views. About France, you had said that France would be communist the last time we talked. Also, I believe that we will probably not need any more compensation for Spain to join. If we absolutely need to give it, then so be it. But for now, I'd say let's wait and see.
Also, about the Baltics, note that France has an territory on Latvia and Lithuania too. I believe that we should take those out to avoid an unnecessary front later on.
As for our post-war plans, I honestly want a communist world. The leftists have always hold back so far, but this is now time for The International to liberate the world.
Also, you will get to take Czechoslovakia and have already joined with Germany. But we, the Soviet Union, won't get an important territory gain. Even if France was communist, how can I protect it from the rest of those capitalists of the world, if I have no land connection with them? It would be a huge disadvantage. The same goes for Italy too. But both you and Spain would get your main lands bigger, without the problem of distance between your territories.
Plus, if Spain gets western France, my gains would be even tinier.
So, I believe that this seems highly unfair. Why will so much Soviet blood split then? For nothing? I apologise if the sentences above sound harsh, I don't mean to create a conflict. But I believe we can agree that the situation is completely unfair. My gains don't equate with the costs of a world war, while Spain can even get the western France, our gains aren't equal with our current territory. We are the biggest country of the world, and the biggest military of the world. Our gains are tiny against the costs (especially if we ever have to fight outside our motherland). only That is completely fair, and I plan to abide by France's change to communism if that is the case. I meant no offense, I simply forgot what we agreed to.
I believe that we should also release France's colonies as free communist states, not bound by their current borders. They should be able to return to their original tribal lands, instead of abiding by the random lines drawn by capitalist and imperialist pigs.
If we really need to sway Spain, we could always offer them a small portion of one of this colonies, temporarily, as long as they agree to treat them more as a commonwealth and not a colony. Only for Warlord247That sounds fair, as long as the colonies are still under my influence and control.
As for the post-war future, what is your ideal world? What do you want to do? I believe that we should talk about these beforehand, in order to have a solid vision of the future under our hands. Of course, at the same time, future can change things, so what we talk is only speculation. Still, I wonder what you want to do. As I've said, I want the world to be controlled by the Comintern, and therefore, the Soviet Union as the leader of the new order until all the humanity is ready to start the ultimate communist earth, with equality, solidarity and freedom. Will these condratict your own wishes? I know that you are pro-communist, but you are currently still a king after all, so you may want different things for your country, which is naturally, understandable. And I wouldn't like our interests to conflict with each other. And before doing anything, I want to make sure that it will be worth it, and our efforts and lost lives of our soldiers won't be in vain, if we will not gain something to equate with it. |
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Post by Kliment Jefremovitš Vorošilov on Apr 14, 2023 12:36:11 GMT
100,000 infantry, 500 tanks, and 500 guns attack Ankara's 140,000 defenders. I need a 6 to win. rGT4EQAQWe suffer defeat, but we attack again. uyUCFkXi· |
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Post by Warlord247 on Apr 14, 2023 13:05:39 GMT
Eugene V. Debs only That is completely fair, and I plan to abide by France's change to communism if that is the case. I meant no offense, I simply forgot what we agreed to.
I believe that we should also release France's colonies as free communist states, not bound by their current borders. They should be able to return to their original tribal lands, instead of abiding by the random lines drawn by capitalist and imperialist pigs.
If we really need to sway Spain, we could always offer them a small portion of one of this colonies, temporarily, as long as they agree to treat them more as a commonwealth and not a colony. Only for Warlord247 That sounds fair, as long as the colonies are still under my influence and control.
As for the post-war future, what is your ideal world? What do you want to do? I believe that we should talk about these beforehand, in order to have a solid vision of the future under our hands. Of course, at the same time, future can change things, so what we talk is only speculation. Still, I wonder what you want to do. As I've said, I want the world to be controlled by the Comintern, and therefore, the Soviet Union as the leader of the new order until all the humanity is ready to start the ultimate communist earth, with equality, solidarity and freedom. Will these condratict your own wishes? I know that you are pro-communist, but you are currently still a king after all, so you may want different things for your country, which is naturally, understandable. And I wouldn't like our interests to conflict with each other. And before doing anything, I want to make sure that it will be worth it, and our efforts and lost lives of our soldiers won't be in vain, if we will not gain something to equate with it. only As I've discussed before, I wish to maintain the empire for my lifetime. After that, the people shall go to communism.
While I agree with you being in control for the time being, my true wish is for a world of true communism, free from any rulers, whether they be premier, emperor, or president. A world where every man may be free, and share in his labours and gains with other, and be provided for, never worrying where his next meal may come from. That is the world I wish for. And it is a world I know will not arise till my passing.
After France, I think it best to liberate the U.K as well, whether that mean war or funding a coup. That will make the majority of the world communist. The rest would fall soon. The only potential hold up I could think of would be the U.S, but we'll address that when the time comes.
So, do you share my vision premier?
Sincerely,
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Post by Warlord247 on Apr 14, 2023 13:36:13 GMT
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Post by Eugene V. Debs on Apr 14, 2023 13:54:28 GMT
Only for Warlord247 That sounds fair, as long as the colonies are still under my influence and control.
As for the post-war future, what is your ideal world? What do you want to do? I believe that we should talk about these beforehand, in order to have a solid vision of the future under our hands. Of course, at the same time, future can change things, so what we talk is only speculation. Still, I wonder what you want to do. As I've said, I want the world to be controlled by the Comintern, and therefore, the Soviet Union as the leader of the new order until all the humanity is ready to start the ultimate communist earth, with equality, solidarity and freedom. Will these condratict your own wishes? I know that you are pro-communist, but you are currently still a king after all, so you may want different things for your country, which is naturally, understandable. And I wouldn't like our interests to conflict with each other. And before doing anything, I want to make sure that it will be worth it, and our efforts and lost lives of our soldiers won't be in vain, if we will not gain something to equate with it. only As I've discussed before, I wish to maintain the empire for my lifetime. After that, the people shall go to communism.
While I agree with you being in control for the time being, my true wish is for a world of true communism, free from any rulers, whether they be premier, emperor, or president. A world where every man may be free, and share in his labours and gains with other, and be provided for, never worrying where his next meal may come from. That is the world I wish for. And it is a world I know will not arise till my passing.
After France, I think it best to liberate the U.K as well, whether that mean war or funding a coup. That will make the majority of the world communist. The rest would fall soon. The only potential hold up I could think of would be the U.S, but we'll address that when the time comes.
So, do you share my vision premier?
Sincerely,
Sir Kent, King of Austro-Hungaria Only for Warlord247That is my wish too. What I had meant is that we would be the leader until all the opposition is ended. Then, we shall no longer need a leader anyway to lead the humanity, as there shall not be wars. On the contrary, the meaningless conflicts and wars shall be no more. So shall the hierarchies. Only true equality, democracy and solidarity shall be known. And for all humans on the earth, without any exceptions. Who knows, maybe in the future, we shall see our comrades in space, discovering the mysteries of the galaxies, the beauty of stars. That is my dream world, comrade. Let our unborn comrades in the future find the neverending wars of the past ridicilous and laugh at the stupidity of the humanity. May the humans of the future never have to find out the pains of war.
Yoy know, Sir Kent, some scientists say that the sun will turn into a red sun eventually, when it ends. But before such far away years, a red sun shall really rise in this galaxy. But while the real sun is still alive. And this first red sun shall be the flag of the humanity, previously only of the leftists. This is why I fight. May we never forget for what we fight, lest we turn into the very monsters we fight against.
Like Friedrich Nietzsche said: "He who fights with monsters might take care lest he thereby become a monster. And if you gaze for long into an abyss, the abyss gazes also into you."
Note: Also, Sir Kent, I shall have to attend some business of mine; you know, the boring type of business, hundreds of files to sign etc. So I shan't able to respond for one or two hours, I would predict. Until then, goodbye, dear friend. |
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