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Post by mrlamo on May 4, 2023 15:20:03 GMT
Wait until he gets 5 random boosts from his active ... only to have them all removed by Zizka don’t forget he can buff another general too .  |
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Post by stoic on May 7, 2023 12:44:27 GMT
I completed Ottoman conquest (with Mehmed as a deployed general) and I have to say this guy is arguably the best general in the game right now. Taking into account his insane privilege I understand why ET set such a high price for this guy. I have to agree with Ralyks: we can't judge this guy by his availability alone. Don't let the description deceive you too. You don't need to wait 10 turns to reset his active skill for the second time. After a unit marked by Mehmet is killed, his active skill resets automatically. That makes him a whirlwind of death actually. |
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Post by hrabrimalitoster on May 7, 2023 17:53:46 GMT
I completed Ottoman conquest (with Mehmed as a deployed general) and I have to say this guy is arguably the best general in the game right now. Taking into account his insane privilege I understand why ET set such a high price for this guy. I have to agree with Ralyks: we can't judge this guy by his availability alone. Don't let the description deceive you too. You don't need to wait 10 turns to reset his active skill for the second time. After a unit marked by Mehmet is killed, his active skill resets automatically. That makes him a whirlwind of death actually. You're wrong about him, his skill restarts if you kill the marked one in the same turn, if he survives until the next turn you have to wait 10 turns to reactivate. At least that's how it was when I played with him in the Campaign, unless it was fixed in the "Bug Fix" patch. What he will get as an activation is very random, sometimes he can get a mobility boost without having more mobility points, which is useless in that case. All in all, this makes him a not so good choice in Treasure missions, where you can't immediately kill the marked General, Vlad III, Richard (deterrent skill) and Su Dingfang are much more useful and valuable there, which means that Mehmed cannot be the best general in this game. |
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Post by yuanzhong on May 7, 2023 18:25:44 GMT
I completed Ottoman conquest (with Mehmed as a deployed general) and I have to say this guy is arguably the best general in the game right now. Taking into account his insane privilege I understand why ET set such a high price for this guy. I have to agree with Ralyks: we can't judge this guy by his availability alone. Don't let the description deceive you too. You don't need to wait 10 turns to reset his active skill for the second time. After a unit marked by Mehmet is killed, his active skill resets automatically. That makes him a whirlwind of death actually. You're wrong about him, his skill restarts if you kill the marked one in the same turn, if he survives until the next turn you have to wait 10 turns to reactivate. At least that's how it was when I played with him in the Campaign, unless it was fixed in the "Bug Fix" patch. What he will get as an activation is very random, sometimes he can get a mobility boost without having more mobility points, which is useless in that case. All in all, this makes him a not so good choice in Treasure missions, where you can't immediately kill the marked General, Vlad III, Richard (deterrent skill) and Su Dingfang are much more useful and valuable there, which means that Mehmed cannot be the best general in this game. Mehmed skill last 2 turns, not 1. Seems like 30% damage buff for all gens who attack marked unit. Only agree with you Mehmed not good in treasure hard because enemies too OP so disable or Su are better choice than damage buff. |
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Post by stoic on May 7, 2023 18:37:40 GMT
You're wrong about him, his skill restarts if you kill the marked one in the same turn, if he survives until the next turn you have to wait 10 turns to reactivate. At least that's how it was when I played with him in the Campaign, unless it was fixed in the "Bug Fix" patch. What he will get as an activation is very random, sometimes he can get a mobility boost without having more mobility points, which is useless in that case. All in all, this makes him a not so good choice in Treasure missions, where you can't immediately kill the marked General, Vlad III, Richard (deterrent skill) and Su Dingfang are much more useful and valuable there, which means that Mehmed cannot be the best general in this game. It was fixed then, because now his active skill resets every time when a marked target killed      I haven't tested cases when the target survived for 3 turns though. |
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Post by hrabrimalitoster on May 7, 2023 18:42:30 GMT
You're wrong about him, his skill restarts if you kill the marked one in the same turn, if he survives until the next turn you have to wait 10 turns to reactivate. At least that's how it was when I played with him in the Campaign, unless it was fixed in the "Bug Fix" patch. What he will get as an activation is very random, sometimes he can get a mobility boost without having more mobility points, which is useless in that case. All in all, this makes him a not so good choice in Treasure missions, where you can't immediately kill the marked General, Vlad III, Richard (deterrent skill) and Su Dingfang are much more useful and valuable there, which means that Mehmed cannot be the best general in this game. Mehmed skill last 2 turns, not 1. Seems like 30% damage buff for all gens who attack marked unit. Only agree with you Mehmed not good in treasure hard because enemies too OP so disable or Su are better choice than damage buff. You didn't convince me that Mehmed is the best general in this game, even now I'm even more sure that he definitely isn't. For me, Vlad III has a much more useful skill for Treasure and Campaign. A general whose opponent is too OP for him cannot be the best. |
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Post by stoic on May 7, 2023 18:50:28 GMT
Mehmed skill last 2 turns, not 1. Seems like 30% damage buff for all gens who attack marked unit. Only agree with you Mehmed not good in treasure hard because enemies too OP so disable or Su are better choice than damage buff. You didn't convince me that Mehmed is the best general in this game, even now I'm even more sure that he definitely isn't. For me, Vlad III has a much more useful skill for Treasure and Campaign. A general whose opponent is too OP for him cannot be the best. I think that difficulty of Treasure missions is somewhat artificial, that means units of the opposing generals are obviously better than our own troops. When our troops upgraded to lvl 25 and with all new buffs it will be significantly easier to survive the onslaught, than it is the case now. We obviously are not forced to complete these new missions immediately after their release. I recall Templar Treasure missions were simply impassable for f2p players when they were just released. But now they seem to be quite manageable. My guess the same will happen to new Treasure missions. |
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Post by stoic on May 7, 2023 19:53:16 GMT
His passive skills are quite good too including this one  . |
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Post by hrabrimalitoster on May 7, 2023 19:58:15 GMT
You didn't convince me that Mehmed is the best general in this game, even now I'm even more sure that he definitely isn't. For me, Vlad III has a much more useful skill for Treasure and Campaign. A general whose opponent is too OP for him cannot be the best. I think that difficulty of Treasure missions is somewhat artificial, that means units of the opposing generals are obviously better than our own troops. When our troops upgraded to lvl 25 and with all new buffs it will be significantly easier to survive the onslaught, than it is the case now. We obviously are not forced to complete these new missions immediately after their release. I recall Templar Treasure missions were simply impassable for f2p players when they were just released. But now they seem to be quite manageable. My guess the same will happen to new Treasure missions. Again I disagree with you and my results confirm it, I finished both Treasure campaigns without using War Drums, thanks to Vlad III and Richard deterrent skills + Calmness skill from Caeser and Matilda. The fifth option was Su Dingfang to protect their flanks.  |
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Post by stoic on May 7, 2023 20:17:34 GMT
I think that difficulty of Treasure missions is somewhat artificial, that means units of the opposing generals are obviously better than our own troops. When our troops upgraded to lvl 25 and with all new buffs it will be significantly easier to survive the onslaught, than it is the case now. We obviously are not forced to complete these new missions immediately after their release. I recall Templar Treasure missions were simply impassable for f2p players when they were just released. But now they seem to be quite manageable. My guess the same will happen to new Treasure missions. Again I disagree with you and my results confirm it, I finished both Treasure campaigns without using War Drums, thanks to Vlad III and Richard deterrent skills + Calmness skill from Caeser and Matilda. The fifth option was Su Dingfang to protect their flanks. I haven't said that it is impossible to complete these Treasure missions now, neither did I say that he is the best option in these Treasure missions. But when his unit (and other units in his legion) upgraded to their max level I think he will be as good in these missions as any other general you have used. He has an excellent active skill, his passive skill deals additionally 20% damage of the max health of any opponent nearby when his moral is high, his privilege is probably one of the best at the moment. All in all, he is an extremely powerful general and a good team player. And, of course, our personal achievements are not a "proof"  It is one of famous logical fallacies. It proves only that you are a good player, not that Mehmed is a bad general  And, it is a normal thing to disagree on different matters. My experience with Mehmed is limited to a single conquest. I easily can be wrong. |
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Post by conkueror on May 7, 2023 20:26:36 GMT
Wait, his priviledge? Did I miss something? What is his priviledge and where can it be seen?
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Post by Oculus on May 7, 2023 20:27:40 GMT
He has no privilege.
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Post by stoic on May 7, 2023 20:29:25 GMT
Wait, his priviledge? Did I miss something? What is his priviledge and where can it be seen? posted it on a previous page. I mispronounced it. I meant Raid. He has one of the best Raids in the game, if not the best. |
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Post by hrabrimalitoster on May 7, 2023 22:06:01 GMT
Again I disagree with you and my results confirm it, I finished both Treasure campaigns without using War Drums, thanks to Vlad III and Richard deterrent skills + Calmness skill from Caeser and Matilda. The fifth option was Su Dingfang to protect their flanks. I haven't said that it is impossible to complete these Treasure missions now, neither did I say that he is the best option in these Treasure missions. But when his unit (and other units in his legion) upgraded to their max level I think he will be as good in these missions as any other general you have used. He has an excellent active skill, his passive skill deals additionally 20% damage of the max health of any opponent nearby when his moral is high, his privilege is probably one of the best at the moment. All in all, he is an extremely powerful general and a good team player. And, of course, our personal achievements are not a "proof" It is one of famous logical fallacies. It proves only that you are a good player, not that Mehmed is a bad general And, it is a normal thing to disagree on different matters. My experience with Mehmed is limited to a single conquest. I easily can be wrong. Of course he's an excellent general, especially if all the conditions you listed are met, as far as I'm concerned he's 5*, but I don't agree that he's the best general in this game. I wouldn't even know who to declare as the best, I think they made a good balance because a lot of generals are useful in different situations. In Hard Treasure it turned out that Range Generals are too soft and die easily, mostly from one attack. I don't think he would be of much use there, just like Timur and Subutai weren't, at least not at the beginning of the battle, until the next green fields for generals are unlocked. |
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Post by jonblend on May 8, 2023 0:27:05 GMT
I completed Ottoman conquest (with Mehmed as a deployed general) and I have to say this guy is arguably the best general in the game right now. Taking into account his insane privilege I understand why ET set such a high price for this guy. I have to agree with Ralyks : we can't judge this guy by his availability alone. Don't let the description deceive you too. You don't need to wait 10 turns to reset his active skill for the second time. After a unit marked by Mehmet is killed, his active skill resets automatically. That makes him a whirlwind of death actually. You're wrong about him, his skill restarts if you kill the marked one in the same turn, if he survives until the next turn you have to wait 10 turns to reactivate. At least that's how it was when I played with him in the Campaign, unless it was fixed in the "Bug Fix" patch. What he will get as an activation is very random, sometimes he can get a mobility boost without having more mobility points, which is useless in that case. All in all, this makes him a not so good choice in Treasure missions, where you can't immediately kill the marked General, Vlad III, Richard (deterrent skill) and Su Dingfang are much more useful and valuable there, which means that Mehmed cannot be the best general in this game. The campaign Mehmed doesn't/didn't have his weapon, so only one turn; the conquest Mehmed has his weapon which increases the duration to 2 turns.
Since it's easily possible to miss the kill in the current turn thanks to dodge/not charge/damage ranges, it's really "necessary" to have his weapon aka buy proof of honor
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It is one of famous logical fallacies. It proves only that you are a good player, not that Mehmed is a bad general 
