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Post by nikomachos on May 19, 2023 9:45:00 GMT
In my understanding its just that when your enemy also has high morale (and your high morale is not higher than enemies but the same) you get the dmg bonus anyway. Very specific^^
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Post by andrei on May 19, 2023 9:46:24 GMT
Use them in many infantry legions if You mean their alternative golden version. They need max morale to shine but even with high morale they are not that much beneficial than Varangian. Varangian's charge is too good. Yeah, the golden version... I mean we need them anyway. They are available for hiring in many conquests and, I think, in War of the Roses they will be one of the main Infantry units in Castles too. Besides, 5 moral points for successful Detour means they are able to keep they high moral consistently even without war Drums, and Varangians' axes require high moral to be most efficient too. Btw, what is the difference between their orange weapon and the red one? I don't quite understand the difference. An additional note seems to be meaningless to me.   Also have no idea, haven't upgraded yet  |
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Post by stoic on May 19, 2023 10:02:03 GMT
Yeah, the golden version... I mean we need them anyway. They are available for hiring in many conquests and, I think, in War of the Roses they will be one of the main Infantry units in Castles too. Besides, 5 moral points for successful Detour means they are able to keep they high moral consistently even without war Drums, and Varangians' axes require high moral to be most efficient too. Btw, what is the difference between their orange weapon and the red one? I don't quite understand the difference. An additional note seems to be meaningless to me. Also have no idea, haven't upgraded yet One thing is sure: high moral is good, low moral is bad  |
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Post by nikomachos on May 27, 2023 12:36:15 GMT
Finally played some treasure and managed to upgrade ranged cav up to 20point accumulative bonus which gives extra dmg against inf which is fun.
The 20 bonus for melee inf is the next goal bc 10% more charge for axe units is probably gamechanging.
Lombardy is 10 unit fragments away from getting 5th skill.
Just me saying that finally the new features are actually starting to be positivly noticable and not just an upgrade nuisance.
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Post by stoic on May 28, 2023 5:36:58 GMT
Finally played some treasure and managed to upgrade ranged cav up to 20point accumulative bonus which gives extra dmg against inf which is fun. The 20 bonus for melee inf is the next goal bc 10% more charge for axe units is probably gamechanging. Lombardy is 10 unit fragments away from getting 5th skill. Just me saying that finally the new features are actually starting to be positivly noticable and not just an upgrade nuisance. I have reached 20 pts accumulative bonus for melee Infantry and since there weren't any changes in stats I thought it is a bug. But crit chance increases, in fact, when we deploy our troops on the battlefield and start battles. Both a great axe and double axes are affected.   Unfortunately, it isn't easy to progress further, because all upgrades with only two exceptions (Teutonic axemen and Royal/2x Swordsmen) require Chain armor 😟 |
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Post by nikomachos on May 28, 2023 8:08:01 GMT
stoic yeah its slow now. I prioratized ranged cav and now will have to wait some time for melee inf. Lets see if i find the time to play some more treasure. Maybe there. Is some more chain to be found. Enjoy the charge 😀
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Post by stoic on Jun 1, 2023 15:39:50 GMT
andreiI have joined ET Discord channel to find some news on future ET plans. I haven't found any and in general the place is a total mess But one thing kept my attention. "Would-be-experts" there say that Mamlukes are completely outdated now and advise to replace them with Dragoons in ranged legions instead. Theoretically I understand the point. But I still think that Mamlukes are better, especially because the chance is high that they and IBC will receive one additional skill eventually. What do you think about it? Are Dragoons that good?
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Post by andrei on Jun 1, 2023 15:50:45 GMT
andreiI have joined ET Discord channel to find some news on future ET plans. I haven't found any and in general the place is a total mess But one thing kept my attention. "Would-be-experts" there say that Mamlukes are completely outdated now and advise to replace them with Dragoons in ranged legions instead. Theoretically I understand the point. But I still think that Mamlukes are better, especially because the chance is high that they and IBC will receive one additional skill eventually. What do you think about it? Are Dragoons that good? Not using Dragoons. Not a single gen. All my archers are built around mobilize+repeated fire. Couple of additional attacks, even one is more beneficial imo. Mamluks are very good, idk why they think they are outdated. Nice stats, dodge, reletively mobile. Nice unit, waiting for the 5th skill |
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Post by stoic on Jun 1, 2023 16:10:56 GMT
andreiI have joined ET Discord channel to find some news on future ET plans. I haven't found any and in general the place is a total mess But one thing kept my attention. "Would-be-experts" there say that Mamlukes are completely outdated now and advise to replace them with Dragoons in ranged legions instead. Theoretically I understand the point. But I still think that Mamlukes are better, especially because the chance is high that they and IBC will receive one additional skill eventually. What do you think about it? Are Dragoons that good? Not using Dragoons. Not a single gen. All my archers are built around mobilize+repeated fire. Couple of additional attacks, even one is more beneficial imo. Mamluks are very good, idk why they think they are outdated. Nice stats, dodge, reletively mobile. Nice unit, waiting for the 5th skill I think its mainly because of Dragoons talent unlocked at lvl 5. It looks interesting on paper, but as you pointed out there are many arguments in favor of Mamlukes. Besides, mounted Archers work well together because of dodge mechanics. Foot Archers are a way behind in this respect. |
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Post by zabadanov86 on Jun 1, 2023 16:39:15 GMT
You are right, i maxed out in talenta IBC,MR and mameluks, and they just wreck everything. No foot archers can compete with them. Subotai and Timur combo Is unstopable. I invested in genoese crossbows, they Are insane in naval combat due to their defense skill talent, shield, and crossbow counter attack Is very good.
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Post by nikomachos on Jun 1, 2023 18:48:24 GMT
stoic thx for the reminder that 2h swordmen and teutonic both dont need chainmail. Upgrading them more and an extra conquest run i managed to get the charge bonus for axe units today
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Post by kingbutawl on Jun 1, 2023 19:45:07 GMT
Not using Dragoons. Not a single gen. All my archers are built around mobilize+repeated fire. Couple of additional attacks, even one is more beneficial imo. Mamluks are very good, idk why they think they are outdated. Nice stats, dodge, reletively mobile. Nice unit, waiting for the 5th skill I think its mainly because of Dragoons talent unlocked at lvl 5. It looks interesting on paper, but as you pointed out there are many arguments in favor of Mamlukes. Besides, mounted Archers work well together because of dodge mechanics. Foot Archers are a way behind in this respect. I’m a proud Mamelukes enjoyer. Soon I’ll be getting talent 5 (4currently). Arquebuses have some nice charm at max, though (some more counter damage). Ideally in a lvl3 hussite wagon one lvl20 conquistador on red arquebuse can deal a good kick. |
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Post by stoic on Jun 1, 2023 19:55:05 GMT
stoic thx for the reminder that 2h swordmen and teutonic both dont need chainmail. Upgrading them more and an extra conquest run i managed to get the charge bonus for axe units today Yeah, it was like a breath of fresh air to find this out I think the whole mess with chain armor is because ET have forgotten that in addition to chain and plate armor there was another type of armor used in Medieval period, namely scale armor. So the overuse of chain armor in EW7 is is hardly justified. I hate like a sin the idea to farm a conquest just to get 5 pieces of it 😒 |
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Post by stoic on Jun 1, 2023 20:01:06 GMT
I think its mainly because of Dragoons talent unlocked at lvl 5. It looks interesting on paper, but as you pointed out there are many arguments in favor of Mamlukes. Besides, mounted Archers work well together because of dodge mechanics. Foot Archers are a way behind in this respect. I’m a proud Mamelukes enjoyer. Soon I’ll be getting talent 5 (4currently). Arquebuses have some nice charm at max, though (some more counter damage). Ideally in a lvl3 hussite wagon one lvl20 conquistador on red arquebuse can deal a good kick. I believe the whole fuss about Dragoons is connected to the fact that their mobility is 10. Otherwise this unit together with their lvl 5 talent/attribute hardly is any better than Conquistadors, whose talent is worth be taken into consideration as well. Because many legions are able to attack 3 times nowadays. But their mobility is a disadvantage. |
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Post by nexttimebro on Jun 2, 2023 6:31:41 GMT
Because many legions are able to attack 3 times nowadays. But their mobility is a disadvantage. With Dragoons you may attack 4-5 times per turn, not 3. Regarding MA, the unit itself is still quite good, but there is no place for him in the “ideal” legion. For those, who like “Repeated fire”, Ravenna has it hoo, and stats+skills of 5lvl Ravenna may be even better than MA skills.   |
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