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Post by Hayato Otero on Nov 23, 2023 20:23:18 GMT
uhhh how do i get s rank😭
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Post by swordyboiii on Nov 24, 2023 1:51:48 GMT
Here's my opinions
I like that there arent army limits (looking at you ew6-1914, would be my favourite game without the army limit bs)
I like that almost everyone has unique units, makes some variety yknow?
I... Kinda disagree with all the aggro you get from bordering other shogunates, given that the ai will target you regardless of their situation, but given the historical context, i guess it does make sense; would make for a good challenge if not for the next point.
I. Absolutely. Hate. That there is so much distance between every village/castle, even the closer ones feel like the distance between siberian cities in wc4, and the farther ones are just ridiculous, it makes bee-lining way too much of a viable strategy; they tried to avoid it by adding that "enemy unit obstruction to movement", but it doesnt really work when the map is so big (not to mention, the big map makes the game lag even more)
Lastly, i miss the surrender diplomacy option, having subordinates is cool and all, but it does become an issue when you have to fight from the other side of the board, mainly because of the massive maps
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Post by blueberry on Nov 24, 2023 23:35:01 GMT
It takes forever to complete a conquest. I just finished my first conquest as Nagao in 66 turns and it felt like 200 turns of a wc3 conquest... I still need to figure out how to speed things up, besides always choosing mobility buffs in the prestige section and appointing a counsellor that increases mobility. I allied just with 2 nations and I always went for the full conquest of the enemy nations' territory, rather than making them my vassals (I thought that it was better to increase my income).
A question for those that have more experience with conquests: Does having a vassal count just like defeating that nation when it comes to the final score? In EW7 defeating nations contributes a lot to that score, and it seems it's the case here as well.
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Post by stoic on Nov 25, 2023 2:09:22 GMT
My problem with conquests is that save files disappear after data save/load, and since I am trying to collect as many purple weapons/breastplates as possible I am using this save/load strategy a lot. And you can't steamroll conquests in one hour anymore. And I suppose we only have small maps so far. We still haven't a full map with Shimazu, Chosokabe and Mori clans on one side of it and Date on the other. Here is a Total war Shogun map, for example
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Post by truhses on Nov 25, 2023 4:06:56 GMT
ухх, как мне получить S ранг😭 I think you need to get more than 200k points. The number of moves and captured cities is important.
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Post by verily on Nov 25, 2023 6:28:11 GMT
It takes forever to complete a conquest. I just finished my first conquest as Nagao in 66 turns and it felt like 200 turns of a wc3 conquest... I still need to figure out how to speed things up, besides always choosing mobility buffs in the prestige section and appointing a counsellor that increases mobility. I allied just with 2 nations and I always went for the full conquest of the enemy nations' territory, rather than making them my vassals (I thought that it was better to increase my income). A question for those that have more experience with conquests: Does having a vassal count just like defeating that nation when it comes to the final score? In EW7 defeating nations contributes a lot to that score, and it seems it's the case here as well. so its EW7 fantasy shoot conquest map. it also takes forever to finish it. also it makes cp hot and lag. im f2p and in verge of quitting the game. didn't play for a week now. finish chapter 1 and doing little of a tenkabito. (3 daily quest). having a vassal nation seems fun. but i guess they didn't give coins. similar to ally. i want a nation begging me to stop the conquest or surrendering. im still doing ew7 hoping something happened like in wc4. also wait for challenge conquest, good luck guys.
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Post by Nobunaga Oda on Nov 25, 2023 7:45:08 GMT
so its EW7 fantasy shoot conquest map. it also takes forever to finish it. also it makes cp hot and lag. im f2p and in verge of quitting the game. didn't play for a week now. finish chapter 1 and doing little of a tenkabito. (3 daily quest). having a vassal nation seems fun. but i guess they didn't give coins. similar to ally. i want a nation begging me to stop the conquest or surrendering. im still doing ew7 hoping something happened like in wc4. also wait for challenge conquest, good luck guys. You can push a state at war with you to surrender at a high cost. This depends on the "leader's" personality, losses suffered by the enemy faction and the power imbalance. That's probably how we get a vassal. They can donate resources to you, defend their lands or attack one of your hostile faction. Only one command can be issued per turn. But I don't like how the cost of gifts scale with player resources rather than the opposing faction's resources.
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Post by stoic on Nov 25, 2023 9:53:36 GMT
There I a strange bug in conquests. All clans are either my allies or subordinates, yet I can't finish the game I have suspicion it has something to do with prestige...
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Post by blueberry on Nov 25, 2023 11:48:34 GMT
There I a strange bug in conquests. All clans are either my allies or subordinates, yet I can't finish the game I have suspicion it has something to do with prestige... You need to eliminate all the clans with the "ambitious" trait, if I'm not mistaken
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Post by Nobunaga Oda on Nov 25, 2023 17:34:57 GMT
More stuff that's probably obvious:
1. The various roles taken by gens to gain bonuses, at the cost of Knowledge, are targeted at specific gens. There were a few in which Hideyoshi was the most suitable, but the role featuring morale up per turn and dmg up placed Maeda Keiji as being more suited.
Follow these recommendations to reduce cost the most.
2. Ever since that update to EW7, troops on lands belonging to a faction who you declare war on will receive a morale drop. In GC:S, it's straight to confusion and no movement. Not sure if deploying a gen to the Clan role that increases morale per turn helps, but beware the placement of troops.
3. Apparently, a credit score of 60 is low and leads to a -3 diplomacy point consequence.
4. Moreover, I got the score of 60 credits after just picking my Hatakeyama ally's side to go to war with Passage Agreement Asakura. I think there's a 10-credit penalty for refusing to help an ally, on top of the -30 diplomacy penalty (Passage and Ally).
Correction: You get +10 credits and money if you side with your allies, but lose 30 diplomacy points if you reject their invitation. There is no hit on credit as far as I can tell.
The hit to credit might've been because I betrayed a friendly state, the Asakura clan who share a Passage Agreement with me.
5. Prestige can drop. The Hongan-ji fell to Braced and the Hatakeyama clan reneged on being subordinates to the Ikko-Ikki. However, players can only see the notification of war being declared.
6. You may try to starve a faction out, but they can just throw themselves at your spears. The Takeda gens did it, resolved their starvation status and immediately revived at a Takeda castle that I was about to take on my next turn.
7. If you successfully conclude an agreement, your relationship with the other clan will increase to that status' indicated extent. Such as +150 relations with a new ally.
8. Ports can be upgraded. If you're on the coast and there are brown buildings by the shore, those can be upgraded. These are the ports that will earn you food and copper, not the Docks facilities in castles.
9. The Clan guardian role that increases troop mobility may lag. Tap on a unit and wait another second for the game to load any additional tiles you may move towards.
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Post by stoic on Nov 25, 2023 20:19:18 GMT
Completed it with S rank as Takeda. Almost without diplomacy just killing all neighbors. I think blueberry is correct. To win a domination we have to defeat all other contenders for supremacy, including Shogunate.
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Post by blueberry on Nov 25, 2023 21:27:31 GMT
Completed it with S rank as Takeda. Almost without diplomacy just killing all neighbors. I think blueberry is correct. To win a domination we have to defeat all other contenders for supremacy, including Shogunate. Were you able to keep Miyoshi as ally? I thought they needed to be taken out because they have the "ambitious" trait.
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Post by blueberry on Nov 25, 2023 21:30:38 GMT
More stuff that's probably obvious: 1. The various roles taken by gens to gain bonuses, at the cost of Knowledge, are targeted at specific gens. There were a few in which Hideyoshi was the most suitable, but the role featuring morale up per turn and dmg up placed Maeda Keiji as being more suited. Follow these recommendations to reduce cost the most. 2. Ever since that update to EW7, troops on lands belonging to a faction who you declare war on will receive a morale drop. In GC:S, it's straight to confusion and no movement. Not sure if deploying a gen to the Clan role that increases morale per turn helps, but beware the placement of troops. 3. Apparently, a credit score of 60 is low and leads to a -3 diplomacy point consequence. 4. Moreover, I got the score of 60 credits after just picking my Hatakeyama ally's side to go to war with Passage Agreement Asakura. I think there's a 10-credit penalty for refusing to help an ally, on top of the -30 diplomacy penalty (Passage and Ally). 5. Prestige can drop. The Hongan-ji fell to Braced and the Hatakeyama clan reneged on being subordinates to the Ikko-Ikki. However, players can only see the notification of war being declared. 6. You may try to starve a faction out, but they can just throw themselves at your spears. The Takeda gens did it, resolved their starvation status and immediately revived at a Takeda castle that I was about to take on my next turn. 7. If you successfully conclude an agreement, your relationship with the other clan will increase to that status' indicated extent. Such as +150 relations with a new ally. 8. Ports can be upgraded. If you're on the coast and there are brown buildings by the shore, those can be upgraded. These are the ports that will earn you food and copper, not the Docks facilities in castles. 9. The Clan guardian role that increases troop mobility may lag. Tap on a unit and wait another second for the game to load any additional tiles you may move towards. 10. Once you defeat the Ashikaga (the shogun), you get a penalty of -10 per turn (for 24 turns) with all nations, including the allies. I don't know if you get that penalty if you let another nation take the last Ashikaga city
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Post by stoic on Nov 26, 2023 2:35:50 GMT
Completed it with S rank as Takeda. Almost without diplomacy just killing all neighbors. I think blueberry is correct. To win a domination we have to defeat all other contenders for supremacy, including Shogunate. Were you able to keep Miyoshi as ally? I thought they needed to be taken out because they have the "ambitious" trait. Actually I was... Perhaps some "ambitious" clans are more ambitious than others
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Post by truhses on Nov 26, 2023 6:27:13 GMT
For the role of advisor in a vassal group, generals with the best indicator of this skill are offered in descending order. Therefore, you should choose the first one on the list.
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