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Post by stoic on Oct 3, 2024 13:51:28 GMT
At level 9 we can use the elite Air Force with enterprise, testable in "wipe out the enemy", but I don't have Halsey yet so I can't feedback on the original question. Based on my Spruance & Enterprise Lv 9 interaction it definitely provides a nice boost but again I find it hard to upgrade any units to Lv 9. I would rather have multiple useful units at Lv5+. Are there any circumstances when it is OK to buy Enterprise rather than one more elite heavy tank? Battle of Crete  And it is definitely more useful in some Pacific war missions when we have to cross numerous islands. I appreciate the ability to send Paratroopers rather that any stealth attacks at higher levels. In many missions in Pacific ocean it makes life significantly easier. |
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Post by Colonia on Oct 4, 2024 8:16:46 GMT
At level 9 we can use the elite Air Force with enterprise, testable in "wipe out the enemy", but I don't have Halsey yet so I can't feedback on the original question. Based on my Spruance & Enterprise Lv 9 interaction it definitely provides a nice boost but again I find it hard to upgrade any units to Lv 9. I would rather have multiple useful units at Lv5+. Are there any circumstances when it is OK to buy Enterprise rather than one more elite heavy tank? Within a mission/conquest or in general when upgrading our elite units? I do think the Enterprise still has a lot of use, but at the investment cost I would rather grab the Typhoon. |
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Post by andrei on Oct 4, 2024 9:11:10 GMT
Are there any circumstances when it is OK to buy Enterprise rather than one more elite heavy tank? Within a mission/conquest or in general when upgrading our elite units? I do think the Enterprise still has a lot of use, but at the investment cost I would rather grab the Typhoon. In mission/conquest of course. We don’t need unit in vacuum 😁 The problem of Enterprise is that in 99% cases You can do same Enterprise can do by simply placing a general on a 80 coins unit in the city with airport. |
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Post by Colonia on Oct 4, 2024 13:15:02 GMT
Within a mission/conquest or in general when upgrading our elite units? I do think the Enterprise still has a lot of use, but at the investment cost I would rather grab the Typhoon. In mission/conquest of course. We don’t need unit in vacuum 😁 The problem of Enterprise is that in 99% cases You can do same Enterprise can do by simply placing a general on a 80 coins unit in the city with airport. I do find that the Enterprise is great value when placed early into a campaign. For me a Lv 5 enterprise with Spruance will contribute one of the following: 4x Fighter 2x Bomber, 1x Fighter 2x Strategic Bombing or any combination of Fighters, Strategic bombings and paratroopers -> even in the turn of deployment (e.g. extremely helpful for Sweden 1950 challenge, where the fighters from Enterprise dealt with Russian & Polish Hind Helicopters) -> starting in the turn post deployment we add an extremely high range bombing run to this arsenal. We essentially gain air attacks worth significant resources every round for free, thus Enterprises value scales with the duration of combat. |
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Post by Colonia on Oct 4, 2024 15:03:55 GMT
andreiWhen using Excellence & Artillery medals with maxed Red, green & mobility ribbons on SzF Lv 5+. 1. Do we use Kluge? or Do we use Zhukov? If yes, what Skills do we run on him? 2. In the third medal slot, AL or Accuracy boost?
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Post by andrei on Oct 4, 2024 15:54:23 GMT
In mission/conquest of course. We don’t need unit in vacuum 😁 The problem of Enterprise is that in 99% cases You can do same Enterprise can do by simply placing a general on a 80 coins unit in the city with airport. I do find that the Enterprise is great value when placed early into a campaign. For me a Lv 5 enterprise with Spruance will contribute one of the following: 4x Fighter 2x Bomber, 1x Fighter 2x Strategic Bombing or any combination of Fighters, Strategic bombings and paratroopers -> even in the turn of deployment (e.g. extremely helpful for Sweden 1950 challenge, where the fighters from Enterprise dealt with Russian & Polish Hind Helicopters) -> starting in the turn post deployment we add an extremely high range bombing run to this arsenal. We essentially gain air attacks worth significant resources every round for free, thus Enterprises value scales with the duration of combat. It is true. The early the better. However I found it very difficult to place it early. As You need to expand all fronts at the same time and allocating such a resource into a navy unit incapable of protecting and advancing at the same time could delay Your advance significantly. In case You play conquest just for role-play reasons ( which I do sometimes especially after let's say WC4 revival) it is OK. But for simple completion I found it not very efficient. |
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Post by andrei on Oct 4, 2024 15:58:42 GMT
andrei When using Excellence & Artillery medals with maxed Red, green & mobility ribbons on SzF Lv 5+. 1. Do we use Kluge? or Do we use Zhukov? If yes, what Skills do we run on him? 2. In the third medal slot, AL or Accuracy boost? I'ld use De Gaulle  But in case Kluge vs Zhukov, I'ld take Kluge and with blue ribbon instead of mobility ribbon. And AL, Accuracy and artillery medal Excellence medal for SzF is overkill. Would be effective to boost another gen on another unit. It's just imo of course. |
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Post by Dorado St. Sebastian on Oct 4, 2024 22:14:05 GMT
I dont have Zhukov, but if i had to choose between Zhukov vs. Kluge on the Stuka, i would choose Zhukov hands down.
Zhukov has a biography perk for elite units. Kluge has stock explosives which would go better on Gustav or B4.
I use Konev, on the Stuka zu Fuss, with the excellence medal because to activate SzF perk, a kill is necessary ...and being that arty strikes on stalwart units are NOT one shot kills, the excellence medal raises max benefit potential.
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Post by pevertpanda on Oct 5, 2024 8:11:01 GMT
My Zhukov (rumour + IV + Excellence medals) on Stuka Zu Fuss lvl5, he kills everything and occupy every cities on his paths.
With Rumour, he can disable strong generals.
Kluge is better on Heavy Gustav to destroy Forts and strong generals.
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Post by Colonia on Oct 5, 2024 12:00:28 GMT
My Zhukov (rumour + IV + Excellence medals) on Stuka Zu Fuss lvl5, he kills everything and occupy every cities on his paths. With Rumour, he can disable strong generals. Kluge is better on Heavy Gustav to destroy Forts and strong generals. This is exactly what I do. IMO the only way to take full advantage of a Lv5-8 SzF is with the Excellence medal. |
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Post by andrei on Oct 5, 2024 12:13:17 GMT
My Zhukov (rumour + IV + Excellence medals) on Stuka Zu Fuss lvl5, he kills everything and occupy every cities on his paths. With Rumour, he can disable strong generals. Kluge is better on Heavy Gustav to destroy Forts and strong generals. This is exactly what I do. IMO the only way to take full advantage of a Lv5-8 SzF is with the Excellence medal. Not the only. De Gaulle is nice substitute 😁 |
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Post by stoic on Oct 5, 2024 13:20:10 GMT
This is exactly what I do. IMO the only way to take full advantage of a Lv5-8 SzF is with the Excellence medal. Not the only. De Gaulle is nice substitute 😁 Yeah, de Gaulle is is a nice substitute on many occasions nowadays. Nice chap, but he lost more battles than he won, if I remember correctly But I digress and it is a usual rant . So, I believe, you have decided to upgrade him before Bock, haven't you? |
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Post by andrei on Oct 5, 2024 13:53:19 GMT
Not the only. De Gaulle is nice substitute 😁 Yeah, de Gaulle is is a nice substitute on many occasions nowadays. Nice chap, but he lost more battles than he won, if I remember correctly But I digress and it is a usual rant . So, I believe, you have decided to upgrade him before Bock, haven't you? Yes, I don’t think Bock is OP. Good buffer on enemy territory of course, but De Gaulle is a monster on SzF. |
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Post by zabadanov86 on Oct 5, 2024 14:48:03 GMT
I am having doubts, Bock or De Gaule,but im more for the De Gaule on Bm 21 Grad option...
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Post by pevertpanda on Oct 5, 2024 15:25:21 GMT
Both Bock and De Gaul are good but I like De Gaul more than Bock since Bock's skill requires to be on enemy territory while De Gaul only needs to keep rumoring the enemies and let other generals do the rest.
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