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Post by Moreau on Jun 6, 2016 20:00:23 GMT
agree paradox is greedy but i bought the cheapest one and i think they deserve it
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Post by Philip II of Macedon on Jun 6, 2016 20:17:59 GMT
agree paradox is greedy but i bought the cheapest one and i think they deserve it You don't get anything concrete really for paying more. Level two is just cosmetic packs and some forum stuff, and level three just gets you a season pass for a $10 (i believe) discount, which isn't very good when we have no idea how good or necessary those dlcs will be. While paradox has a history of making mostly good dlcs I'm not buying a season pass after stuff like mare nostrum. |
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Post by Philip II of Macedon on Jun 6, 2016 22:41:35 GMT
Initial impressions
Pros:
Accessability: for hoi3 I had to watch a 2 hour tutorial just to know how to play and not what was good. For this, I was able to pick it right up without watching any tutorials (though I did watch streams)
Interface: so much cleaner and clearer
Naval and air systems: less annoying micro that could't really be done in multiplayer
Battleplans: again, less mindless micro while still allowing you to control the troops
Historical and ahistorical modes: fascist USA: freedom is nonnegotiable
Supply: no more surrounding the captiol and making all other provinces out of supply
Research: developing specific models is much better than nameless techs, also easier to understand what they do
Multiplayer: haven't tried it, but seems to be eu4 style which was very good, so I have high hopes.
Cons:
AI seems to derp out sometimes, both enemy and your own battleplan ai
Graphics- it looks good but I prefer the hoi3 look
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Post by Moreau on Jun 6, 2016 23:05:53 GMT
Can play this when i die in csgo 10/10 edit:for only like 20 seconds  |
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Post by Philip II of Macedon on Jun 6, 2016 23:19:17 GMT
Can play this when i die in csgo 10/10 edit:for only like 20 seconds Get through maybe 20 days a match, will only take like 1000 to get through the game. |
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Post by Jean Lannes on Jun 9, 2016 15:48:38 GMT
Lemme guess... you guys got your parents' credit cards and used them to purchase the hoi4 now?  I would love to get the deluxe package from CK all the way to HOI (including EU and Vicky), but the stupid greedy Paradox makes it so that those games are incomplete unless you blow like 90 dollars per title for the complete DLC package (and you can't subtract the cosmetic DLCs to get a further discount to get mainly just the real meat of the game). 90 dollars for EU4, 90 dollars for V2, etc... that's almost 500 dollars.  You have to remember though that paradox isn't a huge studio. All that content in HoI4 and EU4 plus years of support just for $40 is a really good price. The DLCs cost more because the people at paradox need an income source |
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Post by Desophaeus on Jun 9, 2016 16:03:20 GMT
Lemme guess... you guys got your parents' credit cards and used them to purchase the hoi4 now? I would love to get the deluxe package from CK all the way to HOI (including EU and Vicky), but the stupid greedy Paradox makes it so that those games are incomplete unless you blow like 90 dollars per title for the complete DLC package (and you can't subtract the cosmetic DLCs to get a further discount to get mainly just the real meat of the game). 90 dollars for EU4, 90 dollars for V2, etc... that's almost 500 dollars. You have to remember though that paradox isn't a huge studio. All that content in HoI4 and EU4 plus years year of support just for $40 is a really good price. The DLCs cost more because the people at paradox need an income source corrected for you. A normal DLC would add plenty of content, plus maybe a nice plus feature for gameplay aspect. Paradox's DLC looks like what... one vital aspect of the game taken away and upgraded to something better in the DLC, but... doesn't leave the basic needed function in the base game. Okay, imagine Left 4 Dead. What if in a particular hallway, a feature was needed? What if the designers acknowledged the need, gives a DLC that address the need. You have to PAY 15 dollars for just ONE little important thing (disguised along with many pointless garbage mini features)? Good luck with the base game cuz.... The game AI has been updated to be able to use the important new side tunnel in the hallway, but the opening is only there if you brought the DLC. Meaning.... if you have the basic L4D, the AI will be stupid enough to bump his head in the middle of the wall because he's programmed to use the new feature. That's what EU4 looks like now... moronic AI that used to be a brutal monster, scripted nearly perfectly to annihilate the human player, crippled with locked features. And you cant use that important aspect either. Imagine what the base game looks like now... EU4 has maybe 8 different DLCs that took away from the base game itself. Paradox is worse than the average modern video game company. Most games are designed to at least sorta function pretty well without DLCs, just having some contents that aren't there, but the ESSENTIAL functions are there for the AIs. This is why it's pointless to play EU4 for only 40 dollars. |
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Post by Von Bismarck jr on Jun 10, 2016 3:12:55 GMT
I wonder if Vatutin will come back anytime soon...knowing him his continual grind on HOI will probably have him beat the game by now...
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Post by Moreau on Jun 10, 2016 8:06:05 GMT
Lemme guess... you guys got your parents' credit cards and used them to purchase the hoi4 now? I would love to get the deluxe package from CK all the way to HOI (including EU and Vicky), but the stupid greedy Paradox makes it so that those games are incomplete unless you blow like 90 dollars per title for the complete DLC package (and you can't subtract the cosmetic DLCs to get a further discount to get mainly just the real meat of the game). 90 dollars for EU4, 90 dollars for V2, etc... that's almost 500 dollars. You have to remember though that paradox isn't a huge studio. All that content in HoI4 and EU4 plus years of support just for $40 is a really good price. The DLCs cost more because the people at paradox need an income source Paradox is a huge studio but since Sweden is a socalist country and they need to profit so they have to raise the prices,the goverment takes up to 50 procent of their profits |
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Post by Moreau on Jun 10, 2016 11:57:33 GMT
ive secured Cario and suez as the italians but im suffering from very low manpower issues and major lack of equipment
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Post by Moreau on Jun 10, 2016 11:57:58 GMT
The allies even have air superiority over Italy itself
and i have 10 divisons in japan as volunteers
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Post by Philip II of Macedon on Jun 10, 2016 12:33:46 GMT
The allies even have air superiority over Italy itself and i have 10 divisons in japan as volunteers You didn't spam enough fighters. From what I've seen, you want a full line making fighters the whole war if possible. |
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Post by Moreau on Jun 10, 2016 16:43:06 GMT
and apparently england defeated the whole italian navy except for 4 destroyers
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Post by Napoleon Bonaparte on Jun 10, 2016 18:33:55 GMT
I wonder if Vatutin will come back anytime soon...knowing him his continual grind on HOI will probably have him beat the game by now... yeah, he was just doing HOI the whole time..... |
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Post by Philip II of Macedon on Jun 10, 2016 19:08:27 GMT
and apparently england defeated the whole italian navy except for 4 destroyers England's navy is massive, and while the Japs aren't in the war all they have to really do is police the med and and the channel. Plus they don't have a ton of manpower but a lot of ic so they can spam lots of naval bombers. |
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