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Post by Quintus Fabius on Sept 4, 2016 14:22:21 GMT
Just yesterday I looked for a good artillery general and decided, that Leeb is not worth his price too. Seems like his price is highered because of infantry and tank stars he has, which in fact have any effect only in missions. Only I don't know why Bai is ranked 2nd artillery general. I think Govorov is better. Yes, he lacks speed, but he has notably higher damage than Bai. He has 2 artillery leader, 2 artillery barrage, 1 plain fighting level and 2 artillery stars more than Bai and Bai has 2 ace forces, 2 shelter expert levels and 3 movement stars more than Govorov. So that means 1 hex movement in almost any case against much higher damage. Yes, Bai can get faster to the destination, but Govorov can destroy enemies faster, so lose less hp (as he spends less moves fighting), and also stay have normal damage longer because of artillery barrage. IMO Bai is useful only against weak enemies or may be somewhere, where you need to catch other forces. Gov replaces Bado as 1st Arty. |
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Post by Max Otto von Stierlitz on Sept 4, 2016 14:51:14 GMT
Gov replaces Bado as 1st Arty. Sure. He's the best one. But I think #2 art is Konev and he can also act nice as infantry gen. |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 4, 2016 15:06:20 GMT
Gov replaces Bado as 1st Arty. Sure. He's the best one. But I think #2 art is Konev and he can also act nice as infantry gen. Konev doesn't have a couple essential artillery skills. |
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Post by Max Otto von Stierlitz on Sept 4, 2016 19:01:48 GMT
Konev doesn't have a couple essential artillery skills. Konev has +50 hp, +2 artillery leader, +2 anti armor and +2 movement stars. Govorov has +1 artillery barrage, +2 explosives and +3 plain fighting. May be you're right and overall Govorov is a bit better, but in some situations Govorov ma be better, in other Konev. |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 4, 2016 19:05:54 GMT
Konev doesn't have a couple essential artillery skills. Konev has +50 hp, +2 artillery leader, +2 anti armor and +2 movement stars. Govorov has +1 artillery barrage, +2 explosives and +3 plain fighting. May be you're right and overall Govorov is a bit better, but in some situations Govorov ma be better, in other Konev. Konev is just so expensive. I guess the moral of the story is don't get Leeb. |
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Post by Max Otto von Stierlitz on Sept 4, 2016 19:57:02 GMT
Konev is just so expensive. I guess the moral of the story is don't get Leeb. We found a consensus  |
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Post by Quintus Fabius on Sept 4, 2016 19:59:53 GMT
Konev is just so expensive. I guess the moral of the story is don't get Leeb. We found a consensus I third that. |
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Post by Jean-Luc Picard on Sept 4, 2016 20:10:04 GMT
Max Otto von Stierlitz, @coolguy14, I find Konev to be inferior to Bai, as he lacks explosive and plain. Both, as well as Badoglio, are superior to Leeb
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Post by Deleted on Sept 4, 2016 20:13:24 GMT
Max Otto von Stierlitz, @coolguy14, I find Konev to be inferior to Bai, as he lacks explosive and plain. Both, as well as Badoglio, are superior to Leeb That's what I was trying to say. I prefer Badoglio to Konev. |
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Post by Jean-Luc Picard on Sept 4, 2016 20:14:21 GMT
Max Otto von Stierlitz, @coolguy14, I find Konev to be inferior to Bai, as he lacks explosive and plain. Both, as well as Badoglio, are superior to Leeb That's what I was trying to say. I prefer Badoglio to Konev. I agree. Konev is not worth his medals |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 4, 2016 20:16:37 GMT
That's what I was trying to say. I prefer Badoglio to Konev. I agree. Konev is not worth his medals The only reason a person might get him, is a hybrid for missions. |
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Post by Jean-Luc Picard on Sept 4, 2016 20:17:32 GMT
I agree. Konev is not worth his medals The only reason a person might get him, is a hybrid for missions. Or really, REALLY not wanting to make eye-covers |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 4, 2016 20:22:50 GMT
The only reason a person might get him, is a hybrid for missions. Or really, REALLY not wanting to make eye-covers Hey, but at least he has more value than Leeb. |
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Post by Quintus Fabius on Sept 4, 2016 20:28:19 GMT
Or really, REALLY not wanting to make eye-covers Hey, but at least he has more value than Leeb. Even Guderian on an Arty? |
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Post by Jean-Luc Picard on Sept 4, 2016 20:30:20 GMT
Hey, but at least he has more value than Leeb. Even Guderian on an Arty? Not THAT much. If Guderian had Explosives then yes |
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