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Post by Franz von Hipper on Sept 17, 2016 12:32:02 GMT
Why not? We need new meat now that we lost half of TW 14's men. And it's not recruit...it's indoctrinate... No offense Fred, but indoctrinate sounds even worse lol. We will just...educate them properly > Can we assimilate?
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Post by Ivan Kolev on Sept 17, 2016 12:36:14 GMT
No offense Fred, but indoctrinate sounds even worse lol. We will just...educate them properly > Can we assimilate? No, only indoctrinati-err, re-education.
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Post by Pierre-Charles Villeneuve on Sept 21, 2016 2:34:32 GMT
Latouche Tréville was excellent at naval command.He defeated Nelson multiple times,and would have faced him at Trafalgar if he hadn't died of illness.
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Post by polandballfan on Sept 21, 2016 14:39:28 GMT
Carolus Rex(Charles XII) was a great general and a great leader,too sad he died too young
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Post by Yi Sun Sin on Sept 21, 2016 21:52:33 GMT
Gustav II Adolf was a good commander that died too early.
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Post by Stonewall Jackson on Sept 23, 2016 12:31:34 GMT
The Battener , Yes but Rommel also grew equally away from him (Hitler)
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Post by Paradoxstrategy on Oct 6, 2016 3:09:47 GMT
The Battener , Yes but Rommel also grew equally away from him (Hitler) Because Rommel realized Hitler's was a genocidal maniac with foolish plans, Rommel is one that died with honor, working with others to kill Hitler.
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Post by Yi Sun Sin on Oct 9, 2016 6:22:57 GMT
The Battener , Yes but Rommel also grew equally away from him (Hitler) Because Rommel realized Hitler's was a genocidal maniac with foolish plans, Rommel is one that died with honor, working with others to kill Hitler. I don't think he actually tried to assassinate hitler.
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Post by Bismarck Jr on Oct 9, 2016 12:07:39 GMT
I would say Bismarck, but the guy was old and senile when he died.
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Post by Ivan Kolev on Oct 9, 2016 14:02:25 GMT
I would say Bismarck, but the guy was old and senile when he died. And more of a brilliant diplomat than a military commander. That honor would go to Helmuth von Moltke Sr. imo.
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Post by Kaleg Nar on Oct 10, 2016 5:10:52 GMT
Personally, I'd go with earlier generals. Alexander the Great for example could've possibly solidified his empire had he live longer and therefore changed the course of Western history since Rome would've faced a united Hellenistic world as opposed to the fractured kingdoms. Attila the Hun, his death also weakened his people and had he lived longer, maybe the Byzantines would've fallen earlier.
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Post by Yi Sun Sin on Oct 10, 2016 7:57:09 GMT
Yi Sun Sin (who the hell is that guy? You may ask.) might have influenced japanese and korean history if he had survived the battle of noryang.
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Post by Desophaeus on Oct 10, 2016 23:34:42 GMT
Personally, I'd go with earlier generals. Alexander the Great for example could've possibly solidified his empire had he live longer and therefore changed the course of Western history since Rome would've faced a united Hellenistic world as opposed to the fractured kingdoms. Attila the Hun, his death also weakened his people and had he lived longer, maybe the Byzantines would've fallen earlier. I don't know if this would be different. You mentioned the Diadochi (Alexander's successors) being fractured. While it's true that the Hellenistic empire would've held together better with Alexander forming a sort of Napoleonic Code law system to unify the unbelievable diverse groups all from Macedonia to Indius. I really doubt his heir (or heir's heir's heir at some point) would be able to maintain an unified empire against the Roman Republic. You have to realize the vast time span between Alexander's death 323 BC and the final defeat of the Hellenistics (Ptolemy's Egypt) in 30 BC. That's almost 300 years. I seriously doubt that the empire built by Alexander would've lasted that long. So if Alexander hadn't died in Babylon, he could have forged a stronger empire but it would have eventually broke down in civil war regardless. And possibly because of less frequent in-fighting among the Hellenistics, the looming civil war might end up in an even worse violent eruption. So ironically, the early fighting then slow settlement of 4 to 5 large power blocs might have presented a better chance of resisting the Romans than a Hellenistic empire recovering from the devastation of a late civil war.
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Post by Frederick the Great on Oct 11, 2016 1:11:56 GMT
Because Rommel realized Hitler's was a genocidal maniac with foolish plans, Rommel is one that died with honor, working with others to kill Hitler. I don't think he actually tried to assassinate hitler. He was involved in a plot to kill Hitler but was injured before he could join the conspirators and when the plot failed (simply because the breifcase carrying the bomb was moved a few feet by someone's foot) Hitler discovered Rommels involvement and forced him to commit suicide.
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Post by Desophaeus on Oct 11, 2016 4:00:05 GMT
I don't think he actually tried to assassinate hitler. He was involved in a plot to kill Hitler but was injured before he could join the conspirators and when the plot failed (simply because the breifcase carrying the bomb was moved a few feet by someone's foot) Hitler discovered Rommels involvement and forced him to commit suicide. Hilter suspected Rommel and feared him because of his popularity but there wasn't any actual proof that Rommel was involved, not even a little. There was never an actual indication that he was going to be involved or endorsed an assassination in the first place, far as I know. But try prove yourself innocent to a crazy poltical madman, good luck lol... that's why Rommel accepted Hilter's offer for a hero's funeral if he committed suicide.
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