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Post by Jean-Luc Picard on Sept 20, 2016 4:42:18 GMT
Let's each make a backstory idea for the immediate past, and vote on whose is canon. Frederick the Great, Napoleon Bonaparte, Laurent de Gouvion, Stonewall Jackson, granny's terror, Quintus Fabius, @everyoneelse
My Backstory: The Island was ruled by rival warlorlds/Nobles, each with his own land fighting others. In 1834, they signed a treaty. This treaty put them in a Loose Confederation, with a leader that was utterly dependent on a Parliament of the various Nobles to make decisions. In 2014, a Revolution began. The leaders were mostly Military men, but some Civilian Nobles joined them. They seized power in the provinces, and took the cities. After a period of Martial law, and many executions, a King was elected and the new Civilian Government, with a Central Executive, was established. Many old Nobles were executed, and their territories were given as upgrades to loyal Revolutionaries.
I included in the Poll only stories with beef over the 500-year span stated. |
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Post by Frederick the Great on Sept 20, 2016 6:23:45 GMT
A pretty good idea, Jean-Luc Picard. My idea was pretty different. The small Island of [Insert Name Here] was originally colonised by various other nations in let's say somthing like 1568. Various parts of the island ended up belonging to different cultural groups from the countries that colonised it. In 1671 independence movements started and the Western Provinces were granted independence. In 1680, the Sothern Provices, the richest fought a brief war of independence supported by the Western Provinces and were freed and became thier own nation. The colonial overlords of the Eastern Provinces managed to hold onto them through numerous uprising until finally the Eastern Provinces gained independence in 1744. The Eastern Provinces were ruled by a ruthless King who led the rebellion. Throughout his reign from 1744-1761, he murdered thousands of people who lived in the East but were ethnically Western or Southern. He was assassinated in 1761 and a period of instability and civil war ensured until 1788 with the South and West supporting various factions throughly out it. In 1799, the Eastern Provinces were unified by a warlord who massively expanded its millitary. In 1801, the King of the South married the Queen of the West and they were joined in a personal union. In 1805, the East attacked the South looking to gain its resources and annexed parts of the South and West in 1808 once the war ended. In 1809, the south and west were fully unified after the Acts of Union were signed and they became known as [Insert Name Here]. In 1812, [Insert Name Here] attacked the East and regained the lost provinces. [Insert Name Here] and the East fought a number of wars over the next few decades with only small territorial changes. In 1870, the new king of [Insert Name Here] reformed the millitary and invaded the East in a series of wars that eventually unified the whole island. This King was a great leader and not only reformed the millitary but also enacted a number of progressive laws and economic policies. In World War One, [Insert Name Here] fought with the allies but suffere great losses. In 1937, after the Spanish civil war, nationalists in the Eastern Provinces inspired by Franco, started a civil war that ended in a stalemate with the nationalists controlling the east an the monarchists controlling the west an south. When WW2 started, the Monarchists joined the allies and the natilonalists the axis. The allies won and the island was once again unified but in 1969 the Northen provinces had a compost revolution and another civil war started that lasted until 1987. Recently, the King died unexpectedly and heiress. A referendum showed that most people supported remaining a constitutional monarchy rather than changing to a republic and the parliament seeked out eligible nobles with a legitimate enough claim on the thron and eventually a new King was elected and a new parliament was established. There plenty of room for adding or changing stuff here. It is based of the story I had for my own country (Vaastad in Nationstates). In my head the island is in the North Sea, the West was colonised by the English, the East the Germans and the South and bits of the North by Sweden and Norway. The small island was also, in my head Russian. |
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Post by Quintus Fabius on Sept 20, 2016 11:15:33 GMT
Mine:
The empire started out as a loose confederaton on the southern bay.
One of the rulers, however, became possessed and tried to ALL_WLL_BE_ASHES the other cities. Fearing for their lives, the other citystates banded together and united to fight off this enemy. Soon after, they expanded to the south.
Unbeknownst to them, another nation has formed from the highland lake system in the north. The two fought a bloody war, but the northern nation was finally destroyed, its capital burned to the ground, and its citizens slaughtered.
Finally taking over the entire island, the little nation found itself being modernised by Westerners in exchange for more power over the king. Finally, around the 1930s, a revolution occured and the Westerners, held up by a certain war, decided to give the nation its freedom.
They soon found out about that war.
Between 1941 and 1943, the island was occupied by the Italians, and used as a military base for further invasions. After the Italian surrender, the Allied forces paratrooped on the island and liberated it. They then proceeded to treat the island as a military base as well.
After the war, the king was almost disposed(but a US-backed counter-revolution forced a constitutional monarchy), and the nation joined NATO. The Soviet Union didn't really care, mainly as it was too small to be bothered with. However, it was one of the places that had missiles removed as part of the Cuban Missle Crisis.
Nowadays, the nation is one of the founding members of the EU, and serves as a shining beacon of HDI and less corruption in the Mediterranean.
(Yes, I think it should be in the mediterranean.)
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Post by Frederick the Great on Sept 20, 2016 11:22:51 GMT
Mine: The empire started out as a loose confederaton on the southern bay. One of the rulers, however, became possessed and tried to ALL_WLL_BE_ASHES the other cities. Fearing for their lives, the other citystates banded together and united to fight off this enemy. Soon after, they expanded to the south. Unbeknownst to them, another nation has formed from the highland lake system in the north. The two fought a bloody war, but the northern nation was finally destroyed, its capital burned to the ground, and its citizens slaughtered. Finally taking over the entire island, the little nation found itself being modernised by Westerners in exchange for more power over the king. Finally, around the 1930s, a revolution occured and the Westerners, held up by a certain war, decided to give the nation its freedom. They soon found out about that war. Between 1941 and 1943, the island was occupied by the Italians, and used as a military base for further invasions. After the Italian surrender, the Allied forces paratrooped on the island and liberated it. They then proceeded to treat the island as a military base as well. After the war, the king was almost disposed(but a US-backed counter-revolution forced a constitutional monarchy), and the nation joined NATO. The Soviet Union didn't really care, mainly as it was too small to be bothered with. However, it was one of the places that had missiles removed as part of the Cuban Missle Crisis. Nowadays, the nation is one of the founding members of the EU, and serves as a shining beacon of HDI and less corruption in the Mediterranean. (Yes, I think it should be in the mediterranean.) I like it but I think it should be the UK that primarily backed the counter revoulution not the US because they would be more likely to instal a King whereas the Americans would want a republic. |
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Post by Quintus Fabius on Sept 20, 2016 11:29:01 GMT
Mine: The empire started out as a loose confederaton on the southern bay. One of the rulers, however, became possessed and tried to ALL_WLL_BE_ASHES the other cities. Fearing for their lives, the other citystates banded together and united to fight off this enemy. Soon after, they expanded to the south. Unbeknownst to them, another nation has formed from the highland lake system in the north. The two fought a bloody war, but the northern nation was finally destroyed, its capital burned to the ground, and its citizens slaughtered. Finally taking over the entire island, the little nation found itself being modernised by Westerners in exchange for more power over the king. Finally, around the 1930s, a revolution occured and the Westerners, held up by a certain war, decided to give the nation its freedom. They soon found out about that war. Between 1941 and 1943, the island was occupied by the Italians, and used as a military base for further invasions. After the Italian surrender, the Allied forces paratrooped on the island and liberated it. They then proceeded to treat the island as a military base as well. After the war, the king was almost disposed(but a US-backed counter-revolution forced a constitutional monarchy), and the nation joined NATO. The Soviet Union didn't really care, mainly as it was too small to be bothered with. However, it was one of the places that had missiles removed as part of the Cuban Missle Crisis. Nowadays, the nation is one of the founding members of the EU, and serves as a shining beacon of HDI and less corruption in the Mediterranean. (Yes, I think it should be in the mediterranean.) I like it but I think it should be the UK that primarily backed the counter revoulution not the US because they would be more likely to instal a King whereas the Americans would want a republic. UK then, supported by US. As the revolutionaries were... you guessed it.... from a certain USSR. |
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Post by Quintus Fabius on Sept 20, 2016 12:48:37 GMT
Early Timeline based on my version of back story:
c. 800 BCE: Greeks find an isle inhabited by "Barbarian peoples", colonise the North Eastern and Southern bays. The West and Highlands remain native.
c. 500 BCE: Jewish Diaspora: Jews find the island and settle in a city near the southern Colonies. They will spread throughout the island in the coming centuries.
125 BCE: Romans storm the last Greek Colony on the island.
45 BCE: Caesar takes a break from.politicking and invades native areas, killing their chief, and sending many back as slaves.
34 AD: Early Christians find the island, builds a chapel in [capital name].
(Will be followed up)
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Post by Quintus Fabius on Sept 20, 2016 13:11:11 GMT
Continuation of timeline, Dark and Medieval ages.
476AD: Goths Sack cities on island. The isle part of Ostrogoth Kingdom.
535 AD: Belisarius takes the island for Justinian I of the Eastern Roman Empire.
830AD: Arab conquests, the island becomes the province of Al-U'statin.
1073: A surprise Norman raid brings down the Al-U'statin rule.
c. 1200: the island fractures into independent city-states, and Al-U'statin becomes an independent emirate.
To be continued.
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Post by Laurent de Gouvion on Sept 20, 2016 13:23:15 GMT
(Lord Chief Justice transmission incoming) If I had to choose between the three, Jean-Luc Picard 's backstory wins. Why? Because I prefer a fictive setting instead of a RL one. Less politics, less offense, less our nation being influenced by religions/beliefs that are still relevant today. This is not to say that the setting should be totally new, but only Picard's backstory is separated from RL history. I haven't read fully all yours, but please try to sort ourselves out first. Look at internal events more than external ones. For example, a crisis because of WWII that changed agriculture forever is more important (for our country) than its tiny involvement in WWII. Start focusing on these events first, then look at world events. Also, Picard's revolution story starts us with a clean slate, which I truly want. (Lord Chief Justice transmission ends) |
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Post by Napoleon Bonaparte on Sept 20, 2016 13:27:17 GMT
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Post by Quintus Fabius on Sept 20, 2016 13:30:59 GMT
Timeline of the island, Part 3: Unification.
c. 1220: Alexandr Saltinov, a disgruntled Kievan Rus' Noble (apologies if I get Kievan Rus' stuff too much like Russia's), is exiled from Kiev. Arriving at the isle, he found no solace in the bustling cities and so, hiring a group of workers with the last of his gold, founds the first city on the smaller isle, Saltingrad.
c. 1300: the trading city-states in the Southern Bay founds the Saltingrad trade Union.
1384: Peter II Saltinov becomes possessed and believes that it is God's will to wipe out the world, stating with the island. his forces wreak havoc in the isle.
1387: Peter II Saltinov is killed.
1388 to 1400: Blaming the Jewish population, the Southern cities start persecuting Jews. Many escape to the lands between the cities and Al-U'statin, where they found the March of Oy Vey.
Also in 1400: the Southern cities unite into a Kingdom.
1444 to 1490: the (insert nation name) - Al-U'statin war. End of Al-U'statin emirate.
1495: The Knights Hospitaller aid the nation in the crusade of (island name).
1496: The nation is unified.
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Post by Laurent de Gouvion on Sept 20, 2016 13:35:35 GMT
It's just a guideline. IMO, the best way to present a history of a nation is to show effects of certain events to that nation. So instead of saying, "Prussia participated in the Napoleonic Wars as a....," Say "The Napoleonic Wars affected Prussia by......" (I'm using Prussia as an example) |
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Post by Jean-Luc Picard on Sept 20, 2016 13:38:38 GMT
(Lord Chief Justice transmission incoming) If I had to choose between the three, Jean-Luc Picard 's backstory wins. Why? Because I prefer a fictive setting instead of a RL one. Less politics, less offense, less our nation being influenced by religions/beliefs that are still relevant today. This is not to say that the setting should be totally new, but only Picard's backstory is separate from RL. I haven't read fully all yours, but please try to sort ourselves out first. Look at internal events more than external ones. For example, a crisis because of WWII that changed agriculture forever is more important (for our country) than its tiny involvement in WWII. Start focusing on these events first, then look at world events. Also, Picard's revolution story starts us with a clean slate, which I truly want. (Lord Chief Justice transmission ends) Mine is legit half-inspired by the French Revolution |
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Post by Laurent de Gouvion on Sept 20, 2016 13:43:25 GMT
(Lord Chief Justice transmission incoming) If I had to choose between the three, Jean-Luc Picard 's backstory wins. Why? Because I prefer a fictive setting instead of a RL one. Less politics, less offense, less our nation being influenced by religions/beliefs that are still relevant today. This is not to say that the setting should be totally new, but only Picard's backstory is separate from RL. I haven't read fully all yours, but please try to sort ourselves out first. Look at internal events more than external ones. For example, a crisis because of WWII that changed agriculture forever is more important (for our country) than its tiny involvement in WWII. Start focusing on these events first, then look at world events. Also, Picard's revolution story starts us with a clean slate, which I truly want. (Lord Chief Justice transmission ends) Mine is legit half-inspired by the French Revolution Poor wording. I'm trying to say I prefer a backstory not crammed into RL history, but inspired is fine. |
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Post by Jean-Luc Picard on Sept 20, 2016 13:50:25 GMT
Mine is legit half-inspired by the French Revolution Poor wording. I'm trying to say I prefer a backstory not crammed into RL history, but inspired is fine. Fair point. I'll make a timeline soon-ish |
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Post by Quintus Fabius on Sept 20, 2016 14:05:30 GMT
(Lord Chief Justice transmission incoming) If I had to choose between the three, Jean-Luc Picard 's backstory wins. Why? Because I prefer a fictive setting instead of a RL one. Less politics, less offense, less our nation being influenced by religions/beliefs that are still relevant today. This is not to say that the setting should be totally new, but only Picard's backstory is separate from RL. I haven't read fully all yours, but please try to sort ourselves out first. Look at internal events more than external ones. For example, a crisis because of WWII that changed agriculture forever is more important (for our country) than its tiny involvement in WWII. Start focusing on these events first, then look at world events. Also, Picard's revolution story starts us with a clean slate, which I truly want. (Lord Chief Justice transmission ends) Mine is legit half-inspired by the French Revolution Mine is inspired by the history of Italy and Sicily. Onto No. 4 of the timeline! Recent History 1534: Spain invades Western States. 1600: Island government colonises part of Africa. 1643: France and Savoy chases the Spanish out in exchange for African colonies. 1648: End of 30 years war. Island falls under Austrian Habsburg control. 1678: End of Habsburg rule. 1726: Civil war between Al-U'statin and the South. 1733: End of Civil war, with Al-U'statin defeated again. 1800: Napoleon takes over the island. 1801: British troops liberate the island. 1803: Island joined the coalition. 1812: the island is guaranteed independence by the UK. 1850 to 1875: Relative peace and modernisation. 1876: British Crisis: a coup backed by UK installs a pro-British king. 1877 to 1936: British Protectorate. 1914 to 1918: Joins WWI. 1915: Island troops join British and Commonwealth troops at Suvla Bay. 1937: Great Revolution: British Ousted. 1940 Dec: Italy invades, gets beaten and the island temporarily occupies Palermo. 1941 Feb: Germany sends Erwin Rommel there for a slight detour; the Islands are given to Italy, who builds a military base on the smaller island near Saltingrad. 1943: Liberation by allies. 1945: End of war. |
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