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Post by Friedrich βFried Riceβ Paulus on Apr 27, 2020 12:19:03 GMT
Mortier Infantry: ** Cavalry: ** Artillery: **** Navy: * Trade: ** Move: ** Training: * Ballistics Surprise Sailor Artillery Trainer Ooh, it's a rainbow of skills! I still remember thinking that a year and a half ago, when I first saw him in Gunboat War. A rainbow of skills, however, is scarcely any good. 1 cav, 1 arti, 1 situational, and 1 trainer is like a rainbow of muck. This guy has Grouchy's output for Artillery, but at least Grouchy is fast. Mortier is a crappy cavalry dressed as a crappy artillery in disguise. Not recommended C- General You think this guy is bad, wait till you see Louis Bonaparte. |
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Post by Arya Stark on Apr 28, 2020 22:32:49 GMT
Mortier Infantry: ** Cavalry: ** Artillery: **** Navy: * Trade: ** Move: ** Training: * Ballistics Surprise Sailor Artillery Trainer Ooh, it's a rainbow of skills! I still remember thinking that a year and a half ago, when I first saw him in Gunboat War. A rainbow of skills, however, is scarcely any good. 1 cav, 1 arti, 1 situational, and 1 trainer is like a rainbow of muck. This guy has Grouchy's output for Artillery, but at least Grouchy is fast. Mortier is a crappy cavalry dressed as a crappy artillery in disguise. Not recommended C- General You think this guy is bad, wait till you see Louis Bonaparte. Mortier at least is an artillery trainer so if you buy him and realize your mistake he can be regrouped into a better artillery gen. No such thing exists for L. Bonaparte (a business trainer but those are useless as far as long term viability goes) |
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Post by Friedrich βFried Riceβ Paulus on Apr 29, 2020 0:41:20 GMT
You think this guy is bad, wait till you see Louis Bonaparte. Mortier at least is an artillery trainer so if you buy him and realize your mistake he can be regrouped into a better artillery gen. No such thing exists for L. Bonaparte (a business trainer but those are useless as far as long term viability goes) Having good trading ability on cavarly generals is pretty awesome. But I do agree, the mistake is 100 medals more lost. |
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Post by Darth Vader on Apr 29, 2020 1:46:41 GMT
Mortier at least is an artillery trainer so if you buy him and realize your mistake he can be regrouped into a better artillery gen. No such thing exists for L. Bonaparte (a business trainer but those are useless as far as long term viability goes) Having good trading ability on cavarly generals is pretty awesome. But I do agree, the mistake is 100 medals more lost. I agree! Imagine have Blucher or (polish prince) having 5 stars in trading and just entering any town with trading. You could spam a who a whole army in 1 turn! |
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Post by Julien Cosmao on May 10, 2020 11:27:17 GMT
Having good trading ability on cavarly generals is pretty awesome. But I do agree, the mistake is 100 medals more lost. I agree! Imagine have Blucher or (polish prince) having 5 stars in trading and just entering any town with trading. You could spam a who a whole army in 1 turn! You could have used Fatimah instead |
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Post by Friedrich βFried Riceβ Paulus on May 10, 2020 11:51:16 GMT
Having good trading ability on cavarly generals is pretty awesome. But I do agree, the mistake is 100 medals more lost. I agree! Imagine have Blucher or (polish prince) having 5 stars in trading and just entering any town with trading. You could spam a who a whole army in 1 turn! Yes, thatβs why on cavarly, 5 trading stars is always a good investment. |
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Post by ππ³π°π΅π΄π¬πΊ on May 10, 2020 13:11:50 GMT
Mortier at least is an artillery trainer so if you buy him and realize your mistake he can be regrouped into a better artillery gen. No such thing exists for L. Bonaparte (a business trainer but those are useless as far as long term viability goes) Having good trading ability on cavarly generals is pretty awesome. But I do agree, the mistake is 100 medals more lost. I find only two non IAP generals with 5β trade: Golden boy Arnold:  And Nenadovic Does he study?!? I saw him never in the academy - probably tier 2 ? Nenadovic got a bad ranking IMO to hard. They are both business trainer, so when you have your final trader they will be used as trainer. So let's have a look at their extra cost compare to a cheap business trainer: +200 Arnold, +300 Nenadovic Just by buying the war horse and one snair drum they can save you up to 289π (compare without gen/β), so they can save their costs long before you will have a full trader, who will need their trainer skill. For princess runs they can do miracles! If you have enough slots, IMO they are a very good investment. Arnold is even on top an excellent fort spam cleaner on grenadiers (or guards). |
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Post by Friedrich βFried Riceβ Paulus on May 10, 2020 13:58:29 GMT
Having good trading ability on cavarly generals is pretty awesome. But I do agree, the mistake is 100 medals more lost. I find only two non IAP generals with 5β trade: Golden boy Arnold: And NenadovicDoes he study?!? I saw him never in the academy - probably tier 2 ? Nenadovic got a bad ranking IMO to hard. They are both business trainer, so when you have your final trader they will be used as trainer. So let's have a look at their extra cost compare to a cheap business trainer: +200 Arnold, +300 Nenadovic Just by buying the war horse and one snair drum they can save you up to 289π (compare without gen/β), so they can save their costs long before you will have a full trader, who will need their trainer skill. For princess runs they can do miracles! If you have enough slots, IMO they are a very good investment. Arnold is even on top an excellent fort spam cleaner on grenadiers (or guards). Arnold is very very good I do agree. He will easily save you more medals than he costs. Arnold has 0 movement stars which is his worst quality. Nenavodic though is really bad as he is like 700 medals and has 5 business stars and nothing else. |
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Post by ππ³π°π΅π΄π¬πΊ on May 10, 2020 14:28:44 GMT
I find only two non IAP generals with 5β trade: Golden boy Arnold: And NenadovicDoes he study?!? I saw him never in the academy - probably tier 2 ? Nenadovic got a bad ranking IMO to hard. They are both business trainer, so when you have your final trader they will be used as trainer. So let's have a look at their extra cost compare to a cheap business trainer: +200 Arnold, +300 Nenadovic Just by buying the war horse and one snair drum they can save you up to 289π (compare without gen/β), so they can save their costs long before you will have a full trader, who will need their trainer skill. For princess runs they can do miracles! If you have enough slots, IMO they are a very good investment. Arnold is even on top an excellent fort spam cleaner on grenadiers (or guards). Arnold is very very good I do agree. He will easily save you more medals than he costs. Arnold has 0 movement stars which is his worst quality. Nenavodic though is really bad as he is like 700 medals and has 5 business stars and nothing else. Oh β700 for Nenavodic - I thought less, so I 100% agree with the ranking! (I compared Arnold + Encyclopedia with Nenadovic) Arnold wins in every aspect! His lack of movement can be a problem, but he didn't move one single hex to bring me all princess alone as trader. |
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Post by Darth Vader on May 10, 2020 14:44:01 GMT
ππ³π°π΅π΄π¬πΊ,Nice, I think you should add more infantry stars just incase he has to defend his position. I like his economic expert and trade union.
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Post by Friedrich βFried Riceβ Paulus on May 10, 2020 14:52:27 GMT
ππ³π°π΅π΄π¬πΊ,Nice, I think you should add more infantry stars just incase he has to defend his position. I like his economic expert and trade union. I would recommend Napoleonβs older brother, joseph bonaparte then as he has one less star in trade but econ master. But I donβt really recommend either. Kosciusko is the one you want for that. Given him the napoleonic code and he will have: 3 infantry stars, 3 movement stars, economic master (but better), defense art, architecture, and good trade stars. |
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Post by Friedrich βFried Riceβ Paulus on May 10, 2020 14:56:11 GMT
Nenadovic - 620
Arnold - 535
Quick correction. Still arnold is cheaper and better
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Post by ππ³π°π΅π΄π¬πΊ on May 10, 2020 15:33:45 GMT
Nenadovic - 620 Arnold - 535 Quick correction. Still arnold is cheaper and better I was not so wrong! 85 is a small difference and if you compare them - just as trader - no combat - Nenadovic comes with eco expert = encyclopedia. For this smaller initial invest I thought to rank Nenadovic higher. When using them as trainer or obtaining the Napoleonic code the 85π are lost as you get the refund, until then, Nenadovic could be interesting though? Anyway they pay out very quickly. ... and I have never noticed Nena in the academy π€ |
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Post by Friedrich βFried Riceβ Paulus on May 10, 2020 15:41:01 GMT
Nenadovic - 620 Arnold - 535 Quick correction. Still arnold is cheaper and better I was not so wrong! 85 is a small difference and if you compare them - just as trader - no combat - Nenadovic comes with eco expert = encyclopedia. For this smaller initial invest I thought to rank Nenadovic higher. When using them as trainer or obtaining the Napoleonic code the 85π are lost as you get the refund, until then, Nenadovic could be interesting though? Anyway they pay out very quickly. ... and I have never noticed Nena in the academy π€ Arnold has an extra infantry star and spy on nenavodic. Plus trade generals =\= econ generals imo. My econ generals are usually far away from trade cities, as they are out improving the awful cities (if I even use them at all that is). Imo the cavarly generals should be the trade generals as they are the ones who will commonly capture high level cities. Furthermore, nenavodicβs econ expert is pretty meh. |
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Post by ππ³π°π΅π΄π¬πΊ on May 10, 2020 16:19:56 GMT
I was not so wrong! 85 is a small difference and if you compare them - just as trader - no combat - Nenadovic comes with eco expert = encyclopedia. For this smaller initial invest I thought to rank Nenadovic higher. When using them as trainer or obtaining the Napoleonic code the 85π are lost as you get the refund, until then, Nenadovic could be interesting though? Anyway they pay out very quickly. ... and I have never noticed Nena in the academy π€ Arnold has an extra infantry star and spy on nenavodic. Plus trade generals =\= econ generals imo. My econ generals are usually far away from trade cities, as they are out improving the awful cities (if I even use them at all that is). Imo the cavarly generals should be the trade generals as they are the ones who will commonly capture high level cities. Furthermore, nenavodicβs econ expert is pretty meh. If you have Fatima for sure it is the best to give her two eco trainer! For less than 700π she will have 5β, and you can't find a more eco general - I bought an extra slot just for her - she is the key for so many missions in the campaign! For me a econ general has primary to change π°π§π - yes it helps to save 26π° on a city upgrade and get up to 60π° more per round for a eco master - but in many campaigns and in conquest anyway the change of resources is most important! You get 3 times more for very change with 5β! Buying items cheaper is the nice side effect. If you need your eco general in a far away enemy's city: conquer first, build a militaria and deploy there your eco - voilΓ With architecture upgrading factories makes the biggest payback! - and you can use this skill two times a round (upgrade - move - upgrade). |
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