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Post by pathdoc on Jan 15, 2017 10:20:34 GMT
I have 700-odd medals saved up to purchase the Napoleonic Code (635 required) when it next appears in the headquarters shop.
HOWEVER, on my Kindle version, On War popped up this morning; a mind-boggling 990 medals.
If I grind the hell out of the day, I might conceivably make the cut and be able to buy it before it disappears. Which is more important? A faster rank grind? Or significantly more money at the start of every campaign and conquest ever?
My inclination is to let "on war" go for now and pick it up in campaign when I've advanced further, but if enough people think it's worthwhile I'll have a shot at getting the medals for it.
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Post by junius on Jan 15, 2017 11:24:57 GMT
I have 700-odd medals saved up to purchase the Napoleonic Code (635 required) when it next appears in the headquarters shop. HOWEVER, on my Kindle version, On War popped up this morning; a mind-boggling 990 medals. If I grind the hell out of the day, I might conceivably make the cut and be able to buy it before it disappears. Which is more important? A faster rank grind? Or significantly more money at the start of every campaign and conquest ever? My inclination is to let "on war" go for now and pick it up in campaign when I've advanced further, but if enough people think it's worthwhile I'll have a shot at getting the medals for it. 1. Do you have Fatimah? If yes, the Code is useless. 2. Do you have a decent merchant general (3*+)? If yes, wait till it shows up in a campaign shop. You'll get a 4*(no. of stars)% discount, which on such purchases is well worth it. A 5* merchant can even buy and sell at no loss, increasing the value of the items we're talking about (where beyond a point they're useless). I'm not sure about ON War, but the Code is available in Vienna in Restoration of the Empire (play as Prussia). |
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Post by huykhoi2000 on Jan 15, 2017 12:02:37 GMT
My idea is that using Fatimah to purchase an atk item (if she has highest merchant stars). On War and Code are all not necessary as I didn't buy one till the end
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Post by pathdoc on Jan 15, 2017 12:40:22 GMT
junius, I have Fatimah but I want to regroup her to make room for artillery and movement trainers (or Isabella if I win her on my next major conquest). Playing as a major nation, Fatimah reduces you to two combat generals because she has to stay in a base to be useful, whereas I can shift the Code around at will to match whichever general is in a city at the end of a turn. Also, I always thought Code was BETTER than what she offers.
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Post by pathdoc on Jan 15, 2017 12:46:10 GMT
My idea is that using Fatimah to purchase an atk item (if she has highest merchant stars). On War and Code are all not necessary as I didn't buy one till the end The problem with this lies in being far enough along in campaigns to be able to find the item I want, but in many cases they don't appear until near the end and I would rather have them sooner. I do note the presence of Golden Staff (625 base price) in the Battle of Three Emperors, which is where I am now. If I can just get to Vienna with one unit once, I can parachute Fatimah in there and use her to get it cheap. It would be good to be able to do fast nobility grinds on trainer generals as I get them, so I can give the generals or princesses they're training a healthy boost. |
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Post by dain on Jan 15, 2017 12:48:06 GMT
I have 700-odd medals saved up to purchase the Napoleonic Code (635 required) when it next appears in the headquarters shop. HOWEVER, on my Kindle version, On War popped up this morning; a mind-boggling 990 medals. If I grind the hell out of the day, I might conceivably make the cut and be able to buy it before it disappears. Which is more important? A faster rank grind? Or significantly more money at the start of every campaign and conquest ever? My inclination is to let "on war" go for now and pick it up in campaign when I've advanced further, but if enough people think it's worthwhile I'll have a shot at getting the medals for it. I do not recommend to buy anything in headquarters shop! The prices are awfully high. On campaign missions, you can use the business stars of your generals placed in the city. Each business star makes for 4% discount, so 5-star merchant is 20% off. Fatimah herself get you 50% bonus, Napoleonic Code gives you 100% bonus. On War gives your general much faster combat experience rate. You can find it in Battle of the Nations (HRE). |
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Post by huykhoi2000 on Jan 15, 2017 14:20:06 GMT
Hmm, but pathdoc, you play as free player right? That makes things difficult cuz 4 slots with Fatimah can't go so far in campaign. However, again, don't buy Code/On War. Assuming you are in early HRE so Cav pistol and Potent gunpowder aren't available, you should buy trainers. 700s is enough for 2 trainers if you grind for 100 more. And correct me if i'm wrong, your cav is Dumo and art is Sop. So you should upgrade Sop (not Dumo cuz he will be gone). With Dumo and a trained Sop, France 98 give you Isabela easily (dont try your Russia, so much headache). Then feel free to throw Fatimah away
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Post by pathdoc on Jan 15, 2017 15:55:09 GMT
I have 700-odd medals saved up to purchase the Napoleonic Code (635 required) when it next appears in the headquarters shop. HOWEVER, on my Kindle version, On War popped up this morning; a mind-boggling 990 medals. If I grind the hell out of the day, I might conceivably make the cut and be able to buy it before it disappears. Which is more important? A faster rank grind? Or significantly more money at the start of every campaign and conquest ever? My inclination is to let "on war" go for now and pick it up in campaign when I've advanced further, but if enough people think it's worthwhile I'll have a shot at getting the medals for it. I do not recommend to buy anything in headquarters shop! The prices are awfully high. On campaign missions, you can use the business stars of your generals placed in the city. Each business star makes for 4% discount, so 5-star merchant is 20% off. Fatimah herself get you 50% bonus, Napoleonic Code gives you 100% bonus. On War gives your general much faster combat experience rate. You can find it in Battle of the Nations (HRE). I am currently still in Coalition/Imperial Eagle and having trouble with them, so HRE missions are a long, long way off and the shop is thus acceptable value for items I might not otherwise reach for months. In any case, the question still boils down to this - if I can only afford one of the two, which is the more useful and important at my stage of the game? Part of me says "Napoleonic code, to be able to afford more soldiers and artillery sooner!" The other part of me says "On War, to be able to level up my generals to maximum faster and have them be harder to kill in the field!" The third part, of course, says "Attack and/or defence items and trainers, to make them more lethal and resilient," but that's not the debate I'm having with myself here. |
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Post by huykhoi2000 on Jan 15, 2017 16:56:13 GMT
If I have to choose, it will be On War. As you don't reach to HRE, fatimah still have some use. So Code isnt important now. Moreover, some says that Code doesn't stack with Fatimah skill. That means you have to use it on your combat gens. Since you have only 4 slots, 1 for fatimah, 2 fighting gens left (assuming 4th slot for trainer). Will you have time for these two to sit in a city for money boost? On the other hand, lots of mission require you to blitz through enemy. Hence, Code won't take the effect.
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Post by pathdoc on Jan 15, 2017 18:31:39 GMT
If I have to choose, it will be On War. As you don't reach to HRE, fatimah still have some use. So Code isnt important now. Moreover, some says that Code doesn't stack with Fatimah skill. That means you have to use it on your combat gens. Since you have only 4 slots, 1 for fatimah, 2 fighting gens left (assuming 4th slot for trainer). Will you have time for these two to sit in a city for money boost? On the other hand, lots of mission require you to blitz through enemy. Hence, Code won't take the effect. That's actually a pretty good way of looking at it. *Looks at screen* Only 170 medals to go, LOL. |
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Post by huykhoi2000 on Jan 15, 2017 18:43:41 GMT
If I have to choose, it will be On War. As you don't reach to HRE, fatimah still have some use. So Code isnt important now. Moreover, some says that Code doesn't stack with Fatimah skill. That means you have to use it on your combat gens. Since you have only 4 slots, 1 for fatimah, 2 fighting gens left (assuming 4th slot for trainer). Will you have time for these two to sit in a city for money boost? On the other hand, lots of mission require you to blitz through enemy. Hence, Code won't take the effect. That's actually a pretty good way of looking at it. *Looks at screen* Only 170 medals to go, LOL. Only when I have to choose. For your case, seriously don't buy anything. On war is in HRE or later, so you are buying from HQ? I remember buying a cav pistol in HQ cost 695 or sth like that, and I regret ever then. On war is nearly 1000, so buying it from HQ takes from you 200, that is too much. If I were you, I will consider buying it with 5* business gen |
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Post by junius on Jan 15, 2017 18:46:26 GMT
If I have to choose, it will be On War. As you don't reach to HRE, fatimah still have some use. So Code isnt important now. Moreover, some says that Code doesn't stack with Fatimah skill. That means you have to use it on your combat gens. Since you have only 4 slots, 1 for fatimah, 2 fighting gens left (assuming 4th slot for trainer). Will you have time for these two to sit in a city for money boost? On the other hand, lots of mission require you to blitz through enemy. Hence, Code won't take the effect. That's actually a pretty good way of looking at it. *Looks at screen* Only 170 medals to go, LOL. Ah. If Fatimah's gonna go, that changes things. I'd still go with ON War, simply because your generals are invariably the focus of your army- make them amazing, and you automatically become a little bit better (at least able to curbstomp Coalition and France). The Code is also decently situational (I won't always have a general in a city when he brings more value in the field)and can't be carried over between levels. |
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Post by pathdoc on Jan 15, 2017 19:48:01 GMT
That's actually a pretty good way of looking at it. *Looks at screen* Only 170 medals to go, LOL. The Code is also decently situational (I won't always have a general in a city when he brings more value in the field)and can't be carried over between levels. Could you clarify what you mean by this? For sure you cannot keep the earnings between conquests/campaigns, but the item remains for use in all of them, doesn't it? I shall have to look at my starter generals, if I really am going to try a princess rush with Russia - one or more of them may be an economist. |
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Post by pathdoc on Jan 15, 2017 23:28:49 GMT
Okay, it's done. After an epic 300 medal grind over the course of the day, I bought "On War". Thank you huykhoi2000 , for the reasoned argument that got me to push that button, and thank you especially to Erich von Manstein , for bringing us the Trafalgar medal grind. Now just 600 medals to grind before I can drop Fatimah into Vienna and pick up the Golden Staff. Slow and steady wins the race, LOL!!! In the meantime, EXPERIENCE GRIND! |
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Post by Jean-Luc Picard on Jan 16, 2017 1:28:34 GMT
The logic here is poor. The code is superior to Fatimah's effect (and can be given to any general), so it has a tangible effect on gameplay. On War and the Staff, however, are useful for farming and not gameplay.
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