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Post by The Light Bringer on Oct 4, 2017 21:08:37 GMT
The biggest hit I got was with Manstein (skills fully upgraded with medals) against a Motorized Infantry : 561 damages. Otherwise I advice to save medals to get Leeb. He is much cheaper than Vatutin and if you upgrade him, he can be without problem your main Artillery general even in the later stages of the game. I used Leeb with success in Cold War missions. I don’t understand why anyone would take Leeb as their first general. Tank generals are just objectively better and make the entire game easier. Leeb as second general? Fine. But if you could get Vatutin as first general, it will make life much easier and help you get more medals faster for subsequent generals. Plus, he can be used as secondary tank option through the end game. That's what I am doing😉 |
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Post by Józef Poniatowski on Oct 5, 2017 2:00:00 GMT
I mean, you guys are comparing messe to manstein and mannerheim, two of the end tier generals. For early game I still suggest Messe because you WILL have to fight those generals, and beat them, and rumor can help you do that, because as you both have stated you will not have the output to beat them on tech alone. I still stand by my statement that Messe is the best starting general
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Post by soonerjbd on Oct 5, 2017 4:49:07 GMT
I mean, you guys are comparing messe to manstein and mannerheim, two of the end tier generals. For early game I still suggest Messe because you WILL have to fight those generals, and beat them, and rumor can help you do that, because as you both have stated you will not have the output to beat them on tech alone. I still stand by my statement that Messe is the best starting general But the person asking the question already has enough medals to skip Messe and get Vatutin or Leeb. Vatutin is an end-game quality tank commander. He can put out so much damage, you don’t need to wait around for Rumor to have an effect. Just kill stuff and move on. If you can afford Vatutin, there is no reason whatsoever to buy Messe. You won’t use him end game, so it would be a waste of medals. Messe is a solid choice for a first general. He makes it much easier to progress and save up for better generals further down the road. But if you managed to get far enough without him that you can afford to go straight for a general you will use when your roster is maxed out, why wouldn’t you do that? |
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Post by andrei on Oct 5, 2017 5:00:59 GMT
soonerjbd, You are talking about end-game.. means You have completed most of the game content. Am I right? Why I am asking.. I still don't have the game and somebody has almost completed it.. How long did it take?
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Post by The Light Bringer on Oct 5, 2017 5:20:02 GMT
soonerjbd, You are talking about end-game.. means You have completed most of the game content. Am I right? Why I am asking.. I still don't have the game and somebody has almost completed it.. How long did it take? If you don't try to farm for high rank generals, then not that much, I have almost completed first axis/allies campaign without generals
stoic 8hours without tactics is equal to 30minutes with good tactics, so it is actually more a matter of the players strategy |
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Post by stoic on Oct 5, 2017 5:35:22 GMT
soonerjbd , You are talking about end-game.. means You have completed most of the game content. Am I right? Why I am asking.. I still don't have the game and somebody has almost completed it.. How long did it take? as far as I can remember plays 8-12 hours daily plus certain investments. With such devotion no suprise he is climbing so high  I can only play for 2 hours plus no investments... That means literally months of play ahead of me  |
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Post by stoic on Oct 5, 2017 5:39:22 GMT
soonerjbd , You are talking about end-game.. means You have completed most of the game content. Am I right? Why I am asking.. I still don't have the game and somebody has almost completed it.. How long did it take? Btw, your devotion to Google Play ia also amazing You have nerves of steel, I believe |
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Post by andrei on Oct 5, 2017 5:46:50 GMT
soonerjbd , You are talking about end-game.. means You have completed most of the game content. Am I right? Why I am asking.. I still don't have the game and somebody has almost completed it.. How long did it take? Btw, your devotion to Google Play ia also amazing Had bad experience with updating CN version once. Lost all the progress. Don't want to experience it once again |
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Post by stoic on Oct 5, 2017 5:52:22 GMT
soonerjbd , You are talking about end-game.. means You have completed most of the game content. Am I right? Why I am asking.. I still don't have the game and somebody has almost completed it.. How long did it take? If you don't try to farm for high rank generals, then not that much, I have almost completed first axis/allies campaign without generals
stoic 8hours without tactics is equal to 30minutes with good tactics, so it is actually more a matter of the players strategy Well, time, strategical vision and good tactical approach are not mutually exclusive things. It is possible to play 8 hours with good tactics and strategy |
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Post by soonerjbd on Oct 5, 2017 13:42:40 GMT
soonerjbd, You are talking about end-game.. means You have completed most of the game content. Am I right? Why I am asking.. I still don't have the game and somebody has almost completed it.. How long did it take? I finished Cold War scenarios yesterday. Still need to clear most of the hard mode scenarios for WWII Pacific and all of them for Cold War. Have more conquests to clear. Still have some exercises/battles to beat in Domination as they get insanely hard. There is a lot of game to clear. That’s what I love about World Conqueror. That said, when I talk about end game in this thread, it is purely from a theoretical perspective. We know what generals are available. We know their skills. I’ve done ratings for all of them based on those skills. So when I say Vatutin has end game value while Messe does not, I’m referring to the fact that when you can afford all the generals you want, Messe will never get any use. Vatutin will. |
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Post by Józef Poniatowski on Oct 5, 2017 15:46:47 GMT
I started out wanting a general (I miss the eyes generals in this iteration to be honest) and I did not have the time to work out how the 3 star all the European campaign without a general, so I bought messe. Personally I will keep him, even if he isnt end game worthy, but i do agree Vatutin is a better tank general.
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Post by soonerjbd on Oct 5, 2017 16:11:56 GMT
I started out wanting a general (I miss the eyes generals in this iteration to be honest) and I did not have the time to work out how the 3 star all the European campaign without a general, so I bought messe. Personally I will keep him, even if he isnt end game worthy, but i do agree Vatutin is a better tank general. In my guide to generals, I strongly suggested Messe as a first general. There are lots of way to go about things, though, and if you want to skip getting a cheaper general and save up for a mid-tier guy with end game value like Leeb or Vatutin or even just beeline straight for Guderian, go for it. The question in this thread was from someone with the medals to buy Leeb or Vatutin as their first general. Given that choice, I think Vatutin is the best option. |
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Post by Józef Poniatowski on Oct 6, 2017 1:25:53 GMT
Personally I only want Budyonny from the Soviets. That man is a legend, it is too bad he isnt in this version.
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Post by Erich von Manstein on Oct 6, 2017 23:43:52 GMT
Maybe Bagramyan? He is super cheap, has solid rank and fine output.
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Post by Leonid Govorov on Oct 8, 2017 8:31:43 GMT
Konev just might be the one. Solid output and cheap(if you have the skills)
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I can only play for 2 hours plus no investments... That means literally months of play ahead of me 
