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Post by Erich von Manstein on Jun 10, 2021 9:41:57 GMT
Who is actually better Rokossovsky or this guy (Graziani) so i can get either of them as my 3rd tank gen soon If you switch medals, no matter how frequently, Rokossovsky. If you don't, Montgomery will be more consistent while Rokossovsky has the potential to give surprises. Don't get Graziani. |
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Post by Gerd von Rundstedt on Jun 10, 2021 11:22:30 GMT
Who is actually better Rokossovsky or this guy (Graziani) so i can get either of them as my 3rd tank gen soon If you switch medals, no matter how frequently, Rokossovsky. If you don't, Montgomery will be more consistent while Rokossovsky has the potential to give surprises. Don't get Graziani. But Erich von Manstein, neither of their skills are top-notch. Shelter is useless, Tide of Iron is bad, Panzer Leader, as you said, is only good when you switch medals. Ace Forces is nowhere near as good as it was in WC4, but IMO better than Shelter, Mountain Fighting isn't as useful as Plain, Jungle, or Street, but still better than TOI. What it really comes down to, Manfred von Richthofen, is if you prefer PL or Machinist. I prefer machinist, so I choose Grazi. |
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Post by Erich von Manstein on Jun 10, 2021 15:51:03 GMT
If you switch medals, no matter how frequently, Rokossovsky. If you don't, Montgomery will be more consistent while Rokossovsky has the potential to give surprises. Don't get Graziani. But Erich von Manstein , neither of their skills are top-notch. Shelter is useless, Tide of Iron is bad, Panzer Leader, as you said, is only good when you switch medals. Ace Forces is nowhere near as good as it was in WC4, but IMO better than Shelter, Mountain Fighting isn't as useful as Plain, Jungle, or Street, but still better than TOI. What it really comes down to, Manfred von Richthofen , is if you prefer PL or Machinist. I prefer machinist, so I choose Grazi. I hold a mostly campaign/challenge oriented mindset. So Mechanist, a long term survivability skill designed mostly for conquests, isn't the best skill for me. Conquests aren't the hardest part of easytech games until 1914. Graziani's survivability could make him a good supporter, but I'd prefer Timoshenko for that role. |
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Post by Manfred von Richthofen on Jun 11, 2021 4:47:21 GMT
I agree with Erich von Manstein . Rokossovsky is better than Graziani, but I'd make Graziani a support general instead of Timoshenko (because George Rudi said don't buy Timoshenko) |
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Post by George Rudi on Jun 11, 2021 5:07:27 GMT
I agree with Erich von Manstein . Rokossovsky is better than Graziani, but I'd make Graziani a support general instead of Timoshenko (because George Rudi said don't buy Timoshenko) It's all about our playing style, where we can have fun finishing the game. I dont really understand about your "support general" term, because for me all of my arty (konev leeb) and tank gen (Gud, Rom, Roko) are the "main gen", because all of them are my main power to kill enemy gen (or capture enemy city). Arnold and Dowding will be my support. Why i said avoid Timo? because you're already in the mid to end game, that's when you really need to buy a gen, you buy the best gen available. There are many gold gen that better than Timo. Buying Timo in mid game won't help you in term of medal effectivenes. Thats my opinion |
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Post by Avatar_Hoodie on Jun 11, 2021 5:45:34 GMT
in my opinion Timoshenko will let you run circles around your enemy but only that
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Post by Erich von Manstein on Jun 11, 2021 12:20:30 GMT
I agree with Erich von Manstein . Rokossovsky is better than Graziani, but I'd make Graziani a support general instead of Timoshenko (because George Rudi said don't buy Timoshenko) It's all about our playing style, where we can have fun finishing the game. I dont really understand about your "support general" term, because for me all of my arty (konev leeb) and tank gen (Gud, Rom, Roko) are the "main gen", because all of them are my main power to kill enemy gen (or capture enemy city). Arnold and Dowding will be my support. Why i said avoid Timo? because you're already in the mid to end game, that's when you really need to buy a gen, you buy the best gen available. There are many gold gen that better than Timo. Buying Timo in mid game won't help you in term of medal effectivenes. Thats my opinion I said Timoshenko only because they were talking about Graziani, who IMO is even worse than Timoshenko as a supporter. I think Konev, Leeb, and Arnold are probably sufficient as supporters for most players. |
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Post by Gerd von Rundstedt on Jun 11, 2021 12:38:08 GMT
It's all about our playing style, where we can have fun finishing the game. I dont really understand about your "support general" term, because for me all of my arty (konev leeb) and tank gen (Gud, Rom, Roko) are the "main gen", because all of them are my main power to kill enemy gen (or capture enemy city). Arnold and Dowding will be my support. Why i said avoid Timo? because you're already in the mid to end game, that's when you really need to buy a gen, you buy the best gen available. There are many gold gen that better than Timo. Buying Timo in mid game won't help you in term of medal effectivenes. Thats my opinion I said Timoshenko only because they were talking about Graziani, who IMO is even worse than Timoshenko as a supporter. I think Konev, Leeb, and Arnold are probably sufficient as supporters for most players. I agree that Graziani is a trash supporter. He is a main gen. He will be used in a Guderian-like role. On a side not, If you want a better support gen than Timo, MacArthur is a stronger tank, infantry, Artillery, Navy. |
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Post by George Rudi on Jun 11, 2021 14:17:17 GMT
I said Timoshenko only because they were talking about Graziani, who IMO is even worse than Timoshenko as a supporter. I think Konev, Leeb, and Arnold are probably sufficient as supporters for most players. Agreed |
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Post by Vietnamese on Jun 15, 2021 8:38:42 GMT
He's more of a support than a primary damage player but not recommended for early game. Give him Rumor and crowd tactics that both buffs attack and heals, there's nothing better than this.
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Post by Manfred von Richthofen on Jun 16, 2021 0:16:32 GMT
He's more of a support than a primary damage player but not recommended for early game. Give him Rumor and crowd tactics that both buffs attack and heals, there's nothing better than this. earlier in this discussion, Erich von Manstein said Graziani is a more worse supporter than Timoshenko, so if you want a support general, get Timoshenko instead of Graziani (because Graziani is way too expensive for a supporter and Timoshenko is cheaper and if you add rumor to him he'll be an overpowered supporter (like Arnold...)). or you could make Arnold your supporter  |
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Post by Gerd von Rundstedt on Jan 3, 2022 1:45:46 GMT
Is it bad that I want to give him Raider and Rumor? That way he becomes Yamashita minus a star and IL. Also, he looks really awesome on Italian commandoes and will be the ultimate hybrid.
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Post by Kliment Jefremovitš Vorošilov on Jan 3, 2022 8:32:44 GMT
Is it bad that I want to give him Raider and Rumor? That way he becomes Yamashita minus a star and IL. Also, he looks really awesome on Italian commandoes and will be the ultimate hybrid. No, but if you want medal efficiency, then that's kind of weird. You can buy Messe and Mannerheim and have a better infantry general and a better tank general for a smaller price. But I would rather do that for Graziani than get that super expensive Yamas**t. |
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Post by Darth Nihilus on Mar 17, 2023 20:22:40 GMT
ik this part of the forum is kinda dead and this is probably necroposting, but I just wanna send my condolences to Graziani fans now that machinist has not one, but two superior alternatives (even though one is p2w), and Rokossovsky is suddenly a decent general now that duplicate medals, defense ribbons, and crit ribbons are a thing
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Post by Gerd von Rundstedt on Mar 19, 2023 23:47:33 GMT
ik this part of the forum is kinda dead and this is probably necroposting, but I just wanna send my condolences to Graziani fans now that machinist has not one, but two superior alternatives (even though one is p2w), and Rokossovsky is suddenly a decent general now that duplicate medals, defense ribbons, and crit ribbons are a thing Consolation accepted. Let the Grazi stans switch to being PATTON stans. |
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