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Post by The Light Bringer on Oct 11, 2017 5:49:35 GMT
 Does anybody actually think about buying Graziani? From what I've seen he is one of the worst gold tier generals, ok he can survive, but he has no good damage and he will bleed out very fast against most of the better rank generals, I think even messe will kill him without problems Quick Navigation |
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Post by stoic on Oct 11, 2017 6:16:02 GMT
Does anybody actually think about buying Graziani? From what I've seen he is one of the worst gold tier generals, ok he can survive, but he has no good damage and he will bleed out very fast against most of the better rank generals, I think even messe will kill him without problems All that is true, but I think he has more potential than he is showing... 1. He can be potentially a decent Inf./Art./Navy Commander and a good one tank general. 2. He has skills, that can be boosted by medals you otherwise don't use - Mountain fighting, ACE forces, Machinist. 3. Though his skills aren't great, they are not scrap either, so potentially he can have 5 decent skills (not very common in WC4). 4. I think at least one hybrid general does't hurt and Graziani is one of the best hybrids available. 5. He could be used by players who think he is capable to replace best navy/Inf Commanders at least for some distance. An I am one of those players.  |
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Post by The Light Bringer on Oct 11, 2017 6:21:38 GMT
Does anybody actually think about buying Graziani? From what I've seen he is one of the worst gold tier generals, ok he can survive, but he has no good damage and he will bleed out very fast against most of the better rank generals, I think even messe will kill him without problems All that is true, but I think he has more potential than he is showing... 1. He can be potentially a decent Inf./Art./Navy Commander and a good one tank general. 2. He has skills, that can be boosted by medals you otherwise don't use - Mountain fighting, ACE forces, Machinist. 3. Though his skills aren't great, they are not scrap either, so potentially he can have 5 decent skills (not very common in WC4). 4. I think at least one hybrid general does't hurt and Graziani is one of the best hybrids available. 5. He could be used by players who think he is capable to replace best navy/Inf Commanders at least for some distance. An I am one of those players. While it is true, that he can be a great hybrid, he is not that good at anything and best bronze tier generals can take him out on anything he is on. |
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Post by stoic on Oct 11, 2017 6:27:25 GMT
All that is true, but I think he has more potential than he is showing... 1. He can be potentially a decent Inf./Art./Navy Commander and a good one tank general. 2. He has skills, that can be boosted by medals you otherwise don't use - Mountain fighting, ACE forces, Machinist. 3. Though his skills aren't great, they are not scrap either, so potentially he can have 5 decent skills (not very common in WC4). 4. I think at least one hybrid general does't hurt and Graziani is one of the best hybrids available. 5. He could be used by players who think he is capable to replace best navy/Inf Commanders at least for some distance. An I am one of those players. While it is true, that he can be a great hybrid, he is not that good at anything and best bronze tier generals can take him out on anything he is on. Well, that is a destiny of all hybrids - to dig wide but not deep, and be sometimes indispensable nevertheless... |
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Post by best75 on Oct 11, 2017 6:34:35 GMT
I don't think he is on anybody's to buy list. For a tank gen he has none of the tank specific skills like tide of iron, panzer leader.
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Post by stoic on Oct 11, 2017 7:08:06 GMT
I don't think he is on anybody's to buy list. For a tank gen he has none of the tank specific skills like tide of iron, panzer leader. Lt's say we give him Panzer Leader and Blitzkrieg... All his skills in that case can be usefull for a tank Commander 1. Machinist (with medal) - Survivability 2. Panzer Leader, Blitzkrieg, Ace forces (with medal) - Attack. 3. Mountain fighting (with medal) - Attack bonus. |
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Post by andrei on Oct 11, 2017 7:25:45 GMT
stoic, just imagine his price in case You would like to use him as a hybrid including navy. So many medals to spend to reach what You call a potential. It is easier to use better bronze generals for each role separately as they also can be sold out with payback.
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Post by stoic on Oct 11, 2017 7:59:17 GMT
stoic , just imagine his price in case You would like to use him as a hybrid including navy. So many medals to spend to reach what You call a potential. It is easier to use better bronze generals for each role separately as they also can be sold out with payback. May well be... It is very important to think over all pros and cons. I'm not sure yet how to evaluate Ace forces and Machinist either. But the fact that he can use 3 (otherwise useless) medals - is something that I have in mind... |
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Post by best75 on Oct 11, 2017 8:16:03 GMT
stoic , just imagine his price in case You would like to use him as a hybrid including navy. So many medals to spend to reach what You call a potential. It is easier to use better bronze generals for each role separately as they also can be sold out with payback. May well be... It is very important to think over all pros and cons. I'm not sure yet how to evaluate Ace forces and Machinist either. But the fact that he can use 3 (otherwise useless) medals - is something that I have in mind... Hmm yes it's the medals, by having medals easytech is trying to have us use generals with more variety of skills. Perhaps he has value with the medals. |
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Post by The Light Bringer on Oct 11, 2017 9:07:27 GMT
May well be... It is very important to think over all pros and cons. I'm not sure yet how to evaluate Ace forces and Machinist either. But the fact that he can use 3 (otherwise useless) medals - is something that I have in mind... Hmm yes it's the medals, by having medals easytech is trying to have us use generals with more variety of skills. Perhaps he has value with the medals. Yeah, but he still won't be worth more than silver tier generals |
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Post by stoic on Oct 11, 2017 9:32:46 GMT
Hmm yes it's the medals, by having medals easytech is trying to have us use generals with more variety of skills. Perhaps he has value with the medals. Yeah, but he still won't be worth more than silver tier generals But his price is at the low end of gold tier, some silver tier generals (Govorov, for example) have the same price. He is L. Colonel and has 2 empty slots... So he is a hybrid between gold tier and silver tier as well |
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Post by stoic on Oct 11, 2017 9:40:04 GMT
So here he is .org/]  [/url] |
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Post by stoic on Oct 11, 2017 9:48:46 GMT
The fact I do not like about him, Montgomery and Rokossovsky is that they all need 1 star to be added to Armor. I presume it will be around 1000 medals... It is optional, of course, but nevertheless...
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Post by andrei on Oct 11, 2017 10:30:49 GMT
stoic , just imagine his price in case You would like to use him as a hybrid including navy. So many medals to spend to reach what You call a potential. It is easier to use better bronze generals for each role separately as they also can be sold out with payback. May well be... It is very important to think over all pros and cons. I'm not sure yet how to evaluate Ace forces and Machinist either. But the fact that he can use 3 (otherwise useless) medals - is something that I have in mind... Aces - Yamashito, Vasilevskiy or Nimitz Mountain (Jungle, Desert) - Mannerheim, Rommel, Govorov So it is only one useless medal , which is Machinist/Replacement  And in any case Machinist is not the best skill taking into account the amount of overall HP of the stacked units. |
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Post by stoic on Oct 11, 2017 10:40:26 GMT
May well be... It is very important to think over all pros and cons. I'm not sure yet how to evaluate Ace forces and Machinist either. But the fact that he can use 3 (otherwise useless) medals - is something that I have in mind... Aces - Yamashito, Vasilevskiy or Nimitz Mountain (Jungle, Desert) - Mannerheim, Rommel, Govorov So it is only one useless medal , which is Machinist/Replacement And in any case Machinist is not the best skill taking into account the amount of overall HP of the stacked units. But he can use all 3 of them at the same time :0) Of course, if such a large group of general's is in mind, there is no needs for Graziani... I on the other hand plan to use a limited number. |
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