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Post by Harry Lillis "Bing" Crosby Jr on Oct 9, 2019 7:36:57 GMT
keep leeb and just grind. It will get better soon  |
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Post by George Washington on Oct 16, 2019 17:16:59 GMT
keep leeb and just grind. It will get better soon Yeah, Leeb didn't last long. I'll probably get him again once I feel like I have enough medals to potentially max him out. |
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Post by Soviet Spagett on Oct 17, 2019 19:58:25 GMT
Such a amazing General. Guderian and Konev are what I call my "Death Squad." Even with the raider skill which is completely useless (I mean c'mon, if you use him as a purelly infantry general then you shouldn't play this game) he is still the best artillery general around. Pack him with rumor and explosives and he will nuke everything you aim him at. I highly recommend saving up for him as well as Guderian, they will obliterate every other general coming their way. You can give him Machinist until you unlock explosives which you can obtain is destination Berlin Hard (I don't even complete it, I just instantly go for the city Lol) but will be a bit pricey medal wise.
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Post by Harry Lillis "Bing" Crosby Jr on Oct 18, 2019 14:15:59 GMT
Such a amazing General. Guderian and Konev are what I call my "Death Squad." Even with the raider skill which is completely useless (I mean c'mon, if you use him as a purelly infantry general then you shouldn't play this game) he is still the best artillery general around. Pack him with rumor and explosives and he will nuke everything you aim him at. I highly recommend saving up for him as well as Guderian, they will obliterate every other general coming their way. You can give him Machinist until you unlock explosives which you can obtain is destination Berlin Hard (I don't even complete it, I just instantly go for the city Lol) but will be a bit pricey medal wise. Agreed, the best tank general does go well with the best artillery general in the game. Konev as an infantry general is more for players who want to leave additional slots for navy/air and can't have space for pure infantry generals like vasilevsky, yamashita or mannerheim |
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Post by Friedrich “Fried Rice” Paulus on Oct 26, 2019 0:44:33 GMT
Such a amazing General. Guderian and Konev are what I call my "Death Squad." Even with the raider skill which is completely useless (I mean c'mon, if you use him as a purelly infantry general then you shouldn't play this game) he is still the best artillery general around. Pack him with rumor and explosives and he will nuke everything you aim him at. I highly recommend saving up for him as well as Guderian, they will obliterate every other general coming their way. You can give him Machinist until you unlock explosives which you can obtain is destination Berlin Hard (I don't even complete it, I just instantly go for the city Lol) but will be a bit pricey medal wise. Agreed, the best tank general does go well with the best artillery general in the game. Konev as an infantry general is more for players who want to leave additional slots for navy/air and can't have space for pure infantry generals like vasilevsky, yamashita or mannerheim You could make konev an infantry general comparable to yamashita. Which is pretty funny |
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Post by Harry Lillis "Bing" Crosby Jr on Oct 26, 2019 2:03:41 GMT
Agreed, the best tank general does go well with the best artillery general in the game. Konev as an infantry general is more for players who want to leave additional slots for navy/air and can't have space for pure infantry generals like vasilevsky, yamashita or mannerheim You could make konev an infantry general comparable to yamashita. Which is pretty funny ye I was surprised at his damage even with low stats on an infantry unit |
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Post by Gone on Jan 22, 2020 19:45:52 GMT
Closest we have to a perfect artillery general.
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Post by Harry Lillis "Bing" Crosby Jr on Jan 24, 2020 12:42:55 GMT
Closest we have to a perfect artillery general. really hope for an update without raider on konev and better movement... a pity that even the strongest artillery general in the game is still far behind from the terrorist generals' skill sets |
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Post by Sun Li-jen of the Glorious RoC on Apr 13, 2020 4:01:48 GMT
Konev is considered by most players as the best artillery general in the game. He is the only six star artillery general with both accuracy and artillery leader. He is also the only (non-IAP) artillery general in the gold tier. His excellence comes to the fact that he has the two specialized artillery skills and two empty skill slots. The best artillery general with cheap discounted prize, a must have!
He is also an OK infantry commander hybrid. His infantry star is not bad 4/5 and he has the raider skill. For beginners, he can be pretty helpful for early infantry invasions.
As for his empty skill slot I would highly recommend rumor (as usual). And the last BEST skill to give on Konev is... Crowd tactics! It is definitely the best you can give to him. Some may argue to add the plain fighting to him. But this is the best choice as we already have Leeb for that purpose and we only have one medal for plain fighting. Some others may want to add machinist, cover, and even camouflage; but these aren't going to help much either as artilleries tend to take much less damage in the battlefield because they are always accompanied by tanks and they also have the 'firepower'. Crossfire? Nah.. especially not on artilleries.
But crowd tactics is definitely the BEST for him. Give the crowd medal to him (instead of Arnold) and he will do wonders to your troops. Let's say he buffs 3 units/turn. (20×1.5)×3=90 damage/turn, your troops can deal extra +90 damage to the enemy. You shouldn't give the crowd medal to Arnold as he has to help you with air supports instead of going to the front line, while Konev can move freely as a mobile artillery. Crowd tactics may not be so useful on panzers as they are the main forces, but it is definitely the most useful skill on an artillery general! Artilleries are supports (not the main forces), hence they are always accompanied by other units, and that's the perfect circumstance for crowd tactics to play a HUGE role.
Trust me, it works really well and it is great. My brother gave plain fighting to Konev, and I told him to exchange it with the crowd tactics. He regretted buying plain fighting too early when there is a much better skill, crowd tactics. But one thing he doesn't regret, exchanging his lv5 plain fighting to crowd tactics. He thanked me for the advice and it boosted his progress like a true beast. I personally use crowd tactics as well on my Konev and it feels really wonderful. Well with the crowd he can be as good in infantry too.
The crowd tactics you have on Konev will feel like his superpower. It also fits the historical narration pretty well as the Red Army tended to rely on number most of the time.
Note: buy him as soon as posible after you get Guderian and Rommel (as soon as you have Leeb and 3 panzer generals). As for his missions, I suggest to use Leeb to win his discount missions.
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Post by jibon on Apr 13, 2020 4:13:58 GMT
Such a amazing General. Guderian and Konev are what I call my "Death Squad." Even with the raider skill which is completely useless (I mean c'mon, if you use him as a purelly infantry general then you shouldn't play this game) he is still the best artillery general around. Pack him with rumor and explosives and he will nuke everything you aim him at. I highly recommend saving up for him as well as Guderian, they will obliterate every other general coming their way. You can give him Machinist until you unlock explosives which you can obtain is destination Berlin Hard (I don't even complete it, I just instantly go for the city Lol) but will be a bit pricey medal wise. Since I have no infantry general, I use Konev for 5 & 7 medals invasion with infantry as well as for exercise and domination battle. He always useful, even the raider skill. |
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Post by Sun Li-jen of the Glorious RoC on Apr 13, 2020 4:24:55 GMT
Such a amazing General. Guderian and Konev are what I call my "Death Squad." Even with the raider skill which is completely useless (I mean c'mon, if you use him as a purelly infantry general then you shouldn't play this game) he is still the best artillery general around. Pack him with rumor and explosives and he will nuke everything you aim him at. I highly recommend saving up for him as well as Guderian, they will obliterate every other general coming their way. You can give him Machinist until you unlock explosives which you can obtain is destination Berlin Hard (I don't even complete it, I just instantly go for the city Lol) but will be a bit pricey medal wise. Since I have no infantry general, I use Konev for 5 & 7 medals invasion with infantry as well as for exercise and domination battle. He always useful, even the raider skill. Give him crowd tactics + crowd medal and he will be much more use ful for both infantry and artillery😄 Read my review above ^ |
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Post by jibon on Apr 13, 2020 4:41:09 GMT
Closest we have to a perfect artillery general. really hope for an update without raider on konev and better movement... a pity that even the strongest artillery general in the game is still far behind from the terrorist generals' skill sets Change raider to rumour/explosive/PF |
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Post by Harry Lillis "Bing" Crosby Jr on Apr 13, 2020 5:09:32 GMT
Dang was hoping that sun wouldnt recommend crowd tactics, but here goes. I spend almost every page in this thread proving why crowd tactics is a waste will respond later, slightly busy now |
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Post by Harry Lillis "Bing" Crosby Jr on Apr 13, 2020 5:28:30 GMT
What about crowd tactics as artillery can only strike once so let him buff the tank generals to be an extremely beast. That is an idea, but I think it would be much less stressful to just buy another general to the buffing. If you get timoshenko, he will have plain fighting, crowding tactics, and possibly rumor, and will be an amazing supporting general. But I like your idea. I just think the strongest artillery general in the entire game, and the second strongest general in the base game, should not be the one doing the buffing. This idea sums up my stand the best. |
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Post by Harry Lillis "Bing" Crosby Jr on Apr 13, 2020 5:39:26 GMT
If we agree that Konev is the best, and that is output is higher than Leeb, why should we stifle him for the sake of convenience/being unique? Personally I dont think its wise at all, even to prove a point.
Sure, crowd tactics is an essential aura. But with Timoshenko/Arnold having it, there is no need for another general to have it as aura does not stack
If you dont like the idea of Arnold having crowd tactics, then I know that you have the wrong perception of his role and his actions. I believe my point is agreeable: whatever you do in the game you will definitely be conquering cities, yes?
Following this premise would lead me to my second point, if you are heading towards cities with your tank gens, and your air generals need to constantly move to nearer cities to be in range, shouldnt it be the only logical option to use Arnold/Timoshenko to follow your generals to the next objective? After all isnt that what specialised support generals are for?
Then again, Konev is not, and will never be a support general. His skill slot has been wasted by Raider, and if you do not capitalize on his last remaining slot other than rumor he will not be as powerful, and you will be better off getting Govorov/Zhukov instead. Which in turn defeats the main purpose of grinding through 3 missions to get this awesome gen for a cheap price.
Sure, crowd tactics is useful, but certainly not on Konev. How would you feel if I claimed that instead of mountain fighting Graziani should have crowd instead? Using crowd tactics is only an illusion, for although it may seem like he is used often his limits far outweigh his tangible moments of glory with crowd tactics.
For everyone else observing this discussion, I firmly recommend Plain fighting, not explosives (you can use explosives too), and to be honest I feel it is extremely unwise to sacrifice Konev's power for crowd tactics, for whatever reason you might have.
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