European War 6 Paget

Maybe. But there are still many football dbags at school so they made even four square awful for us.

Maybe. But there are still many football dbags at school so they made even four square awful for us.

So this guy...

I really wanted to talk about this guy for a while. It's not because I think he's good enough to be worth it, but because I find that people overlook him for an option I think is worse.
Yeah, I think he's better than Davout. Not significantly, but a little. 

Do note that I might have done my math wrong. I'm not quite sure how surprise attack works, I'm going to assume that it's total dmg*1,08 at no movement, and total dmg*1,20 at max movement.

First let's look at their normal damage.

Davout has 86 BA and 46 CA at King. That means 131% attack multiplier. Precision strike is +20 attack flat (according to what I've seen). So 131%+20 attack.
Paget has 64 BA and 50 CA at Prince. That means 128% attack multiplier. Precision strike is +20 attack flat. Surprise attack I assume makes him do (128%+20 attack)*108% at no movement, and (128%+20)*120% at max movement.

If we put Davout on a heavy cavalry at max tech, then it should have (77atk*1,31)+20atk=120,87atk (rounded up or down?)
If we do the same for Paget, then it should have ((77atk*1,28)+20atk)*1,08=128,04atk at no movement, and ((77atk*1,28)+20atk)*1,20=142,27atk at max movement.

So if we use that heavy cav to hit a light cav with 0 def then davout does 120 dmg and Paget does between 128-142 dmg depending on his movement. 
I'm convinced that Paget ALWAYS has higher normal damage than Davout does.

However, there IS some advantages that Davout has over Paget. He's got Station, Riding master, and King on Paget. I actually think that Station is somewhat good, although only really in conquest. Capturing enemy factories and stables forces the AI to use infantry which are terrible against cavalry that I mostly use. Still though, that doesn't actually make him stronger that Paget at max speed(I think that precision strike isn't multiplied by terrain skills). Davout on a Heavy Cav on a building has 77atk*1,31*1,20+20atk=141,04 atk. One lower that Paget on max speed. On the other hand, it's not always feasible to move Paget at full speed.

King on the other hand is actually a straight up advantage on Paget. 40% defense instead of 36% defense. If we put them both on a Heavy Cav, Davout is going to have 54def*1,40=75,6def, and Paget is going to have 54def*1,36=73,44 def. That's not much, but it's something, def is quite important actually.

Riding master is totally unknown to me, I have no idea how high the damage multiplier on crits are, or how frequent they are, or whether or not Riding master increases the crit chance or crit damage(I think crit damage). Doesn't matter, the normal damage is the most important thing for me anyway, and I don't care enough to buy a riding master general and make like 200 tests to find it out.
 
Tactics master is 100% the same between the two so no comparision there.

In conclusion, Riding master aside, Paget is stronger than Davout, though weaker defensively. 
But in the end, as I said, I don't think that Paget is good enough to actually be bought, I just made this post seeing the hype around Davout. Only really buy him if you wanna use  like 6 Cav gens, which, to be honest, I might end up doing. 


Is lasalle better then paget? Because if they're max lassale will have around 2% less damage but lassale will have maneuver  while paget is stuck with tactic master a less good skill for cavalry.


edit: maneuver is useless, sorry I thought it was something else.

Mabye, I haven't actually thought much about maneuver, Looking at that skill, it can actually be quite useful, in theory. at max tech, 30% damage reduction from barriers lategame is pretty serious. But if you actually check the level of the barriers on all maps, they're all 10% damage reduction, even in endgame maps like Siege and 1815 conquest. And they're rare, pretty much nonexistent in France during 1815. So in practice it actually isn't very good.

I don't really like tactics master myself because I don't like relying on RNG like that. But you can use some tactics to make sure you get the most out of it, the simplest one is to always position your tactics master gen so that they can hit multiple targets, with some that they cannot oneshot. That way you don't get situations where tactics master activates when you've killed everything.

Really I don't think Lasalle is better than Paget because maneuver really doesn't do a lot at all, while tactics master can be seen as a little extra bonus on top of his solid damage. I think that Paget is better because Lasalle has inferior stats (34 BA + 60 CA)=23% compared to Pagets (64 BA + 50 CA)=28% and the real killer: Lasalle is a duke, means lv 4 precision strike, lv4 edge and lv4 surprise attack. 

True, funny that my edit was at the same moment as your post.

My generals are Massena, Barclay, Murat, Dabrowsky, John and the free ones.My question is : Should I get this general, or someone else ?(I was thinking about Lan or Alexander I)

Murat and Dabrowski are good for now.
If you are needing another artillery general,Alex is a good solid choice.
Lan,is cheap and much like Blucher and she can reach emperess.


true but i think Karl is more useful at this point because you will close to never have three good cavalty units and you can always build infantry.