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Post by Friedrich “Fried Rice” Paulus on Jul 19, 2019 11:52:02 GMT
Lucius Vorenus,agreed on Crassus. Although let's cut Friedrich “Fried Rice” Paulus some slack  . Thing about Crassus is that he can deal a flat 60 damage to cities. Can't be affected by morale down, just a big 60 damage to the city. Place him on a heavy infantry and city IIs will fall. March is also great. If Siege was only 20 damage, I would just have ignored it, but 60 damage when it reaches lvl 5? Let me have it 60 + 25 means 85 at max. |
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Post by Friedrich “Fried Rice” Paulus on Jul 19, 2019 11:56:08 GMT
I should also mention that I disliked explosives even in ew4 and wc3, where they were arguably at their strongest. So I have a certain bias You are definitely biased, against Crassus. Two other gold gens, Burebista and especially Sertorius, have less purpose than Crassus. I suppose if you for some reason wanted a anti-archer specialist then Burebista could hold a spot on the team. But archers are uncommon and the easiest to kill already so meh. Sertorius has two of the same skills as Crassus, but then has formation which is utterly useless, and intercept which makes no sense on a general with counterattack. If you specifically target archers then when it is the enemies turn they will attack you, negating your counterattack skill because you cannot counter archers. So thats a terrible design flaw on top of a terrible talent compared to Crassus crit. On average your extra attack from infantry commander would have to do 240 damage just to break even with siege. Thats simply not happening under average circumstances. If you like infantry commander better then cool, it’s definitely more useful overall, at least in campaign. But it is not better for cracking a city, especially when you want that city reliably cracked, and not chance based. For me, both of those two match my team very well. Sertorius has intercept, increasing defense by 100% perk (I like this one), siege but no tunnel (tunnel is meh whereas siege is god tier), counterattack (in common with crassus). I personally like him more than crassus. Because the loss of tunnel is negligible imo. He is a bit slower. Burebista is also decent at the worst. He can make use of our mountain fighting scrolls (but dolabella arguably may be a better purchase), good at attacking archers due to hide intercept and mountain finally roar will allow for more crits on archers. I do not like his additional view perk. I thought of burebista as a b- personally whereas sertorius a b+. |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 19, 2019 12:15:07 GMT
Friedrich “Fried Rice” Paulus, that also means you can give Crassus a defense or hp item, and he'll still do a lot of damage to cities. Now that i think about it, Crassus on a war elephant or War chariot can be an interesting tactic
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Post by Friedrich “Fried Rice” Paulus on Jul 19, 2019 12:17:45 GMT
Friedrich “Fried Rice” Paulus, that also means you can give Crassus a defense or hp item, and he'll still do a lot of damage to cities. Now that i think about it, Crassus on a war elephant or War chariot can be an interesting tactic War elephants already practically one shot cities. Your right though. Using him on other units is smart |
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Post by Friedrich “Fried Rice” Paulus on Jul 19, 2019 12:18:39 GMT
Aight if the hype for crassus continues for a month after the update, I will bump him up further to a “b.”
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Post by Deleted on Jul 19, 2019 13:34:07 GMT
Aight if the hype for crassus continues for a month after the update, I will bump him up further to a “b.” The hype will only die if ET decides to release a better version of him |
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Post by Friedrich “Fried Rice” Paulus on Jul 19, 2019 14:41:18 GMT
Aight if the hype for crassus continues for a month after the update, I will bump him up further to a “b.” The hype will only die if ET decides to release a better version of him Got crassus is like the ugly duckling turned into a swan on this forum. I ended up curving him from a D- to a B+. Wow! But don’t worry though, Surena and Wei absorbed the bad scores that Crassus lost 😂 Honestly, for no purpose other than for memes. I also curved Li from an E to a C |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 19, 2019 15:35:10 GMT
Friedrich “Fried Rice” Paulus, Crassus is just criminally underrated . Even in campaigns where all you do is to kill units, there are still cities you need to take. He's like Antony, except for the fact that people now acknowledges Antony's greatness.
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Post by stoic on Jul 19, 2019 16:57:26 GMT
Friedrich “Fried Rice” Paulus, Crassus is just criminally underrated . Even in campaigns where all you do is to kill units, there are still cities you need to take. He's like Antony, except for the fact that people now acknowledges Antony's greatness. I personally like Crassus more than Antony In comparison to Antony Crassus does not have useless skills... |
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Post by andrei on Jul 19, 2019 17:12:51 GMT
Friedrich “Fried Rice” Paulus, Crassus is just criminally underrated . Even in campaigns where all you do is to kill units, there are still cities you need to take. He's like Antony, except for the fact that people now acknowledges Antony's greatness. I personally like Crassus more than Antony In comparison to Antony Crassus does not have useless skills... For both available now conquests the only necessary skill is March |
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Post by stoic on Jul 19, 2019 17:28:53 GMT
I personally like Crassus more than Antony In comparison to Antony Crassus does not have useless skills... For both available now conquests the only necessary skill is March I agree, so far mobility of generals is very important. However, even now it is possible to beat conquests effectively using other approaches. I don't believe that March is a key that unlocks all the doors, at least for now  |
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Post by andrei on Jul 19, 2019 17:33:55 GMT
For both available now conquests the only necessary skill is March I agree, so far mobility of generals is very important. However, even now it is possible to beat conquests effectively using other approaches. I don't believe that March is a key that unlocks all the doors, at least for now There is no room for better strategy if You can beat conquest in 10 turns. At least for Punic Wars... The only way is to be faster near every city. |
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Post by stoic on Jul 19, 2019 17:40:55 GMT
I agree, so far mobility of generals is very important. However, even now it is possible to beat conquests effectively using other approaches. I don't believe that March is a key that unlocks all the doors, at least for now There is no room for better strategy if You can beat conquest in 10 turns. At least for Punic Wars... The only way is to be faster near every city. No, I don't consider Punic wars as conquest. It is literally a "speed run" I am glad I collected all rewards, and I doubt that I will replay it in the future |
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Post by Friedrich “Fried Rice” Paulus on Jul 19, 2019 17:45:28 GMT
There is no room for better strategy if You can beat conquest in 10 turns. At least for Punic Wars... The only way is to be faster near every city. No, I don't consider Punic wars as conquest. It is literally a "speed run" I am glad I collected all rewards, and I doubt that I will replay it in the future Putting your generals on crappy units and leroy jenkins is not fun, but hey, at least the rewards are nice |
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Post by Friedrich “Fried Rice” Paulus on Jul 19, 2019 17:47:21 GMT
Friedrich “Fried Rice” Paulus, Crassus is just criminally underrated . Even in campaigns where all you do is to kill units, there are still cities you need to take. He's like Antony, except for the fact that people now acknowledges Antony's greatness. I personally like Crassus more than Antony In comparison to Antony Crassus does not have useless skills... Arminius is a bit underrated now. I know we used to praise him at first, no everyone just kind ignores him. Imo, -8% counterrattack, guerilla results in fantastic survivability, where as jf assualt and charge result in huge output. And he still has a slot for another skill. I am guessing after the update, he will get to shine more |
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. Thing about Crassus is that he can deal a flat 60 damage to cities. Can't be affected by morale down, just a big 60 damage to the city. Place him on a heavy infantry and city IIs will fall. March is also great. If Siege was only 20 damage, I would just have ignored it, but 60 damage when it reaches lvl 5? Let me have it
