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Post by Reinhard Von Lohengramm on Aug 2, 2019 18:36:58 GMT
Well, but is inevitable being attacked for the enemy.
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Post by Friedrich “Fried Rice” Paulus on Aug 2, 2019 18:42:35 GMT
Friedrich “Fried Rice” Paulus, but the 26 damage are not secure how the 10% of Huo, almost the time, theorically, arminius only deals 6 more of damage all the time. If to the people like more: Huo = Arminius, because In practice, are almost all the time the same, you dont be in a Forest tile all the time, 10% critical rate is only a probability. I agree. Anthony does have breakthrough but still a lot of hype surrounds him, so Huo’s Raid is forgiveable. I do agree. I was just making sure that I wasn’t gonna make a mistake buying arminius instead of huo. Probably Arminius Huo and Anthony will be in our arsenals for end game |
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Post by Friedrich “Fried Rice” Paulus on Aug 2, 2019 18:43:18 GMT
Well, but is inevitable being attacked for the enemy. I agree. The skill is expensive tho at 35 medals I think. Still, I defended it on octavian so it is good on Huo and Scipio |
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Post by andrei on Aug 2, 2019 18:44:20 GMT
Well, but is inevitable being attacked for the enemy. I was saying that Counterattack and Guerilla can't be benefitted together. So Huo will always be with max 3 skills. He is the General to benefit from 3 skills only while being top tier gold gen. Plus *Auto Corrected* Raid of course, don't forget about this awful for cavalry skill. Do You want You gen dead - try to benefit from Raid. So, most of the time Huo is the gen with 2 skills. If compared to Arminius who can benefit from all his skills.. imo it is not even the question who is better. 10% additional crit against 2 skills. |
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Post by Friedrich “Fried Rice” Paulus on Aug 2, 2019 18:52:50 GMT
So reranking the best units in a particular type, we’re probably gonna have (no iaps)
Infantry:
1. Pompey (9.6/10)
2. Crassus (9.4/10)
3. Labienus (9.3/10)
4. Vercingetorix (8.6/10)
5. Bato (8.5/10)
Cavarly
1. Arminuis (9.5/10)
Huo (9.5/10)
3. Anthony (9.4/10)
4. Scipio (9.2/10)
5. Commius (8.5/10 due to price), (9.3/10 potential)
6. Tiberius (8.4/10)
7. Pacorus I (8.3/10) ~ (9.5/10 price-performance)
Archers
1. Mihredates VI (9.4/10)
2. Drusus (9.3/10)
3. Octavian (9/10)
4. Li (7.5/10) - archer commander lvl 1.... really?
Navy-Hybrids
1. Cleopatra (9.4/10)
2. Agrippa (8.9/10)
3. Cassivelanous (7.8/10)
Hybrids (as a hybrid, used on other units)
1. Drusus (8.2/10)
2. Ambiorix (8/10) ~ due to price
3. Crassus (7.5/10)
4. Pompey (6.7/10)
5. Surena (surena/10) - eIGhT sTaRs iN cAvArLY and aRcHeRs.
*this is a combination of my point of view with the overall perception by the board as a whole).
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Post by dsongop on Aug 2, 2019 18:53:22 GMT
Well, but is inevitable being attacked for the enemy. I was saying that Counterattack and Guerilla can't be benefitted together. So Huo will always be with max 3 skills. He is the General to benefit from 3 skills only while being top tier gold gen. Plus *Auto Corrected* Raid of course, don't forget about this awful for cavalry skill. Do You want You gen dead - try to benefit from Raid. So, most of the time Huo is the gen with 2 skills. If compared to Arminius who can benefit from all his skills.. imo it is not even the question who is better. 10% additional crit against 2 skills. I'd say Huo is more of a campaign/expedition general, Antony is more of a conquest general, and Arminius is the all-around one. Raid is a good skill I think, especially when there's a chance of guerrilla triggering. A lot of times you'll find your generals in need to assassinate 5-stacked enemy generals in campaign, and if you're lucky, Huo with high morale and guerrilla activated can take out enemy generals almost solo. But if you bought Hannibal, Huo just seems a little extra. |
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Post by dsongop on Aug 2, 2019 18:55:25 GMT
So reranking the best units in a particular type, were probably gonna have (no iaps) Infantry: 1. Pompey (9.6/10) 2. Crassus (9.4/10) 3. Labienus (9.3/10) 4. Vercingetorix (8.6/10) 5. Bato (8.5/10) Cavarly 1. Arminuis (9.5/10) Huo (9.5/10) 3. Anthony (9.4/10) 4. Scipio (9.2/10) 5. Commius (8.5/10 due to price), (9.3/10 potential) 6. Tiberius (8.4/10) Archers 1. Mihredates VI (9.4/10) 2. Drusus (9.3/10) 3. Octavian (9/10) 4. Li (7.5/10) - archer commander lvl 1.... really? Navy-Hybrids 1. Cleopatra (9.4/10) 2. Agrippa (8.9/10) 3. Cassivelanous (7.8/10) *this is a combination of my point of view with the overall perception by the board as a whole). Wrong. Surena should be no.1 in both archery and cavalry. Only general able to have 8 points in both. |
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Post by kingbutawl on Aug 2, 2019 18:55:57 GMT
Let's compare our heroes at max . Let's choose a standard unit in a certain conquest or campaign and place into it our cavalry generals . I'll place my Scipio with and without high moral. Let's do this to solve the eternal mystery on who's the best knight.
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Post by Friedrich “Fried Rice” Paulus on Aug 2, 2019 18:59:11 GMT
Let's compare our heroes at max . Let's choose a standard unit in a certain conquest or campaign and place into it our cavalry generals . I'll place my Scipio with and without high moral. Let's do this to solve the eternal mystery on who's the best knight. If only scipio had guerilla instead of raid... |
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Post by kingbutawl on Aug 2, 2019 19:02:33 GMT
Even raid is usefull when you face stronger opponents. When I will give golden spear to my big lips boaih , we'll see  |
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Post by Reinhard Von Lohengramm on Aug 2, 2019 19:08:40 GMT
Arminius go to the Hell, he is a garbage compared with my gOd VaRuS, he have CAV COmMander and CHARge, he can solo conquest all of GERmania and destroy this little kid Arminius.
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Post by andrei on Aug 2, 2019 19:17:33 GMT
dsongop, I don't want to replay mission/conquest if guerilla won't trigger and Huo will die from enemy's counterattack just because I wanted to benefit from Raid. I don't think Raid is useful. Just way too risky skill. And in most missions/conquests losing cavalry gen is a disaster. Only in case it is the last breakthrough. But in that case any gen can be used as a ciucidal.
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Post by andrei on Aug 2, 2019 19:19:30 GMT
Arminius go to the Hell, he is a garbage compared with my gOd VaRuS, he have CAV COmMander and CHARge, he can solo conquest all of GERmania and destroy this little kid Arminius. I think Teutoburg Forest is the best place the check it |
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Post by Reinhard Von Lohengramm on Aug 2, 2019 19:34:34 GMT
All are fight for decided who is better, Huo or Arminius, but nothing is mentioning Antony, he is laughing in the corner, he married with Cleopatra and live more years than the other two, he death at the age of 53 years, Huo death at the age of 24 years (a shooting star) and Arminius death at the age of 37 - 38 years.
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Post by kingbutawl on Aug 2, 2019 19:37:48 GMT
dsongop, I don't want to replay mission/conquest if guerilla won't trigger and Huo will die from enemy's counterattack just because I wanted to benefit from Raid. I don't think Raid is useful. Just way too risky skill. And in most missions/conquests losing cavalry gen is a disaster. Only in case it is the last breakthrough. But in that case any gen can be used as a ciucidal. A 3 legion Scipio can deal with a 4/5 legion bigass Mithridates (yes , cav vs archery , what a blasphemy ! ) in a blow , man . That's why Scipio can resist against anything in a city even if severely damaged (20 counter + 20 raid + 20 against eventual infantry + critical hit = pure insanity , Ainsley Harriott approved) . |
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