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Post by Marshal Forwards on Apr 30, 2020 18:35:21 GMT
I kind of feel arminius looks cooler than Huo though. Like he is a tiger ready to pounce on the trapped legionaires at Teutoburg forest. Huo does have a pretty great portrait by arminius looks like a beast imo. Sorry mate, I never wanted to diss the hero of Teutoburg.😄 Let’s say I prefered Huo for the interracial balance in my team.😉 |
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Post by SolidLight on Apr 30, 2020 19:46:46 GMT
I kind of feel arminius looks cooler than Huo though. Like he is a tiger ready to pounce on the trapped legionaires at Teutoburg forest. Huo does have a pretty great portrait by arminius looks like a beast imo. Arminius has pretty good hair imo, while Huo has really awesome armor. Also Surena has the worst haircut in the game. |
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Post by Friedrich “Fried Rice” Paulus on May 1, 2020 2:31:14 GMT
I kind of feel arminius looks cooler than Huo though. Like he is a tiger ready to pounce on the trapped legionaires at Teutoburg forest. Huo does have a pretty great portrait by arminius looks like a beast imo. Arminius has pretty good hair imo, while Huo has really awesome armor. Also Surena has the worst haircut in the game. He is the worst general so he might as well have the worst haircut haha. |
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Post by SolidLight on May 1, 2020 10:04:58 GMT
It's really disappointing that the commander doesn't get a new armor for being a consul.
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Post by Marshal Forwards on May 1, 2020 16:14:02 GMT
Arminius has pretty good hair imo, while Huo has really awesome armor. Also Surena has the worst haircut in the game. He is the worst general so he might as well have the worst haircut haha. Why is Surena so hated, I mean beside the haircut? Archer tactics is imho one of the best talents. Accuracy and Besiege is ok, Street Fighting debatable, Marksman is useless. Surena doesn’t look like a good purchase, but Burebista and Wei cost even more. Burebista is a one-trick-pony against archers with Hide, Intercept and Roar plus MF and a funny cap. Wei‘s only good skili is cav comm, plus Brave, Raid and Breakthrough. So why does Surena get all the bashing? |
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Post by SolidLight on May 1, 2020 22:31:34 GMT
He is the worst general so he might as well have the worst haircut haha. Why is Surena so hated, I mean beside the haircut? Archer tactics is imho one of the best talents. Accuracy and Besiege is ok, Street Fighting debatable, Marksman is useless. Surena doesn’t look like a good purchase, but Burebista and Wei cost even more. Burebista is a one-trick-pony against archers with Hide, Intercept and Roar plus MF and a funny cap. Wei‘s only good skili is cav comm, plus Brave, Raid and Breakthrough. So why does Surena get all the bashing? Surena is pretty bad. I personally don't like tactics talents because +10% crit chance is actually not that good of a bonus. Though to be fair there's not that many better talents anyway. I'd rather have Inspire, Geography or rumor. Besiege is not really what you'd want to use your archer for unless you have archer commander, which Surena lacks. Street fighting is garbage on archers unless you're using javelineers. Accuracy is the only appealing part about Surena imo. He's an anti-cavalry archer, but there's piles of better anti-cavalry archers out there. Burebista is actually ok imo. Sure his talent isn't great (but sometimes useful against cities) and he lacks march, but an archer killer with high resistance to archer damage is honestly pretty valuable. Archers are the most dangerous enemy units due to their ability to avoid counterattacks and their absolutely insane attack. Javelineers in particular are terrifying because there's no good way to deal with them other than war elephants and woad raiders. And every skill he has (except roar) makes him dedicated to that role. Your only other option for an anti-archer infantry is Labienus who lacks damage resistance. And yeah, his hat is pretty funny. Wei is also hated from what I understand. I don't really like him either since I sure don't want to have a smaller stack than my enemies. Way too dangerous, especially against archers, but atleast he's fairly specialized for his role and there's not many other people who can do what he does. (except Pacorus, which says more about Pacorus than about Wei tbh) On a slightly unrelated note. I personally think that Breakthrough and the like is slightly better in GCR than in EW6. This is because trenches, fences and barricades cost industry which is most of the time a less valuable resource than money, so I spam a ton of them. So it's pretty likely that the enemy ends up using some trenches here and there. Though it's still a really low tier skill imo. |
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Post by Friedrich “Fried Rice” Paulus on May 2, 2020 1:07:40 GMT
Surena is very hated mostly because I kind of turned it into a meme. But in all seriousness though, I saw that people where saying he is a good archer, then I analyzed his skills and the rest is history.
Why is Surena so hated?
Before we start, Surena’s talent is definitely a good talent. It is 1/2 advantage but independent of morale. Its not the best but its still an A level talent.
That’s about all the good I can say haha. Surena’s skillset is stand out terrible when compared to other archers. You essentially have a 500 medal trebonius (who I also don’t recommend). Lets address it one by one as its a long rant.
1. He lacks archer commander. This is only forgiveable on a small group of generals who offer other redeemable qualities to the table: Drusus (inspire + advantage), Dolabella (geography + good skills), Dellius and Pedius (Rumor!). This is not forgiveable on Surena as what does he bring to the table the Mih VI, Octavian, or even Cleopatra don’t.
2. Accuracy and Besiege: these skills are very expensive (Besiege is 35 medals and Accuracy too (I don’t remember but it wasn’t 15)). Furthermore, these skills are very weak. They add 3 damage per level (4 base, 25% debuff that all archers suffer). So they are absolute garbage in output adding.
Jungle fighting is twice as good damage wise (cheap + consistent too). Which is more than I can say for these skills. They are also very inconsistent. You only get accuracy against cavarly and besiege, much worse, against outnumbered units, which cavarly is better at taking out anyway. Besiege is terrible, whereas accuracy is just bad.
3. Urban Fighting: using an archer to defend a city (even Drusus) is like putting a high hp general on paris in wc3 1960 conquest. They will get nuked. Drusus is of course going to take significantly less damage. But others are easily going to lose at least a legion or more due to this mistake. Archers are the weakest unit in the game so leaving city defense to them is a bad idea.
4. Marksmann: terrible, need I say more.
In short, surena has 2 bad skills (accuracy and urban) and two horrible skills (marksmann and besiege). This guy is easily one of the worst purchases you could make.
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Post by Friedrich “Fried Rice” Paulus on May 2, 2020 1:12:34 GMT
He is the worst general so he might as well have the worst haircut haha. Why is Surena so hated, I mean beside the haircut? Archer tactics is imho one of the best talents. Accuracy and Besiege is ok, Street Fighting debatable, Marksman is useless. Surena doesn’t look like a good purchase, but Burebista and Wei cost even more. Burebista is a one-trick-pony against archers with Hide, Intercept and Roar plus MF and a funny cap. Wei‘s only good skili is cav comm, plus Brave, Raid and Breakthrough. So why does Surena get all the bashing? Burebista can be useful. But considering Agrippa can be a burebista lite while also being the best admiral in the game, Agrippa is always the better choice. Wei is really really bad. In fact, he is the second worst general in the game besides Surena in terms of price performance. Why not save yourself the medals and get Varus. He is also extremely terrible when you bring price in to the equation, as he is more expensive than Scipio, but far less good. Then he becomes a laughing stock when we realize anthony is 60 medals more. |
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