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Post by zabadanov86 on Sept 13, 2019 19:27:57 GMT
Agripa is a better option then Cleo.
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Post by Friedrich “Fried Rice” Paulus on Sept 13, 2019 20:37:25 GMT
Agripa is a better option then Cleo. Solo yes, in a team no. I imagine in a team being more important towards crucial situations. But he is a better inf general than she is an archer |
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Post by andrei on Sept 13, 2019 21:31:42 GMT
Agripa is a better option then Cleo. Solo yes, in a team no. I imagine in a team being more important towards crucial situations. But he is a better inf general than she is an archer Why? She has commander, he has crit rate. What makes him better? |
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Post by Friedrich “Fried Rice” Paulus on Sept 13, 2019 22:45:37 GMT
Solo yes, in a team no. I imagine in a team being more important towards crucial situations. But he is a better inf general than she is an archer Why? She has commander, he has crit rate. What makes him better? Crit rate is pretty good though. Plus he starts at general. Finally, roar + intercept is quite good on an infantry general |
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Post by andrei on Sept 14, 2019 5:31:50 GMT
Why? She has commander, he has crit rate. What makes him better? Crit rate is pretty good though. Plus he starts at general. Finally, roar + intercept is quite good on an infantry general Well.. Commander + accuracy is pretty good on an archer general absolutely same as roar+intercept, no?  Still don't understand. As an archer she is better imo, simply because there are plenty good infantry gens. No need in Agrippa. And Cleo is decent archer. Capable to compete for 3rd archer in the team. |
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Post by xerexes on Sept 14, 2019 9:18:43 GMT
Why? She has commander, he has crit rate. What makes him better? Crit rate is pretty good though. Plus he starts at general. Finally, roar + intercept is quite good on an infantry general I bought both and I can confirm Agrippa is more useful and is able to hold his own pretty well and even survives to make it to land and still be useful there. Cleo is not that useful as archer units dies fast in sea and some might argue to deploy her on a infantry unit to increase her survival chances but that’s where we have Agrippa for. Also due to her atrocious stats in infantry and Calvary, she functions more as a burden when attempting suppression missions in the senate |
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Post by zabadanov86 on Sept 14, 2019 9:45:51 GMT
Why? She has commander, he has crit rate. What makes him better? Crit rate is pretty good though. Plus he starts at general. Finally, roar + intercept is quite good on an infantry general Agripa has commander skill also, he's a general, with a crossbow and critical rate skill he has 50% chance to crit while enbarked. And I think he is better infantry general then Cleopatra is archer general. But that is my opinion... |
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Post by andrei on Sept 14, 2019 10:32:29 GMT
Crit rate is pretty good though. Plus he starts at general. Finally, roar + intercept is quite good on an infantry general Agripa has commander skill also, he's a general, with a crossbow and critical rate skill he has 50% chance to crit while enbarked. And I think he is better infantry general then Cleopatra is archer general. But that is my opinion... Yeah, but what makes You think he is better infantry than Cleo archer? Skills, talents, stats? What exactly You base Your opinion on? |
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Post by zabadanov86 on Sept 14, 2019 10:39:59 GMT
Both talents are useless when they are fighting on land, intercept and accuracy are on the same skills basically and there is Agripas crit skill against Cleopatras commander skill and that is the mater of taste what do you like better. Agripa has one star more in infantry then Cleopatra in archery. And as I said that is just my opinion man☺
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Post by andrei on Sept 14, 2019 11:25:12 GMT
Both talents are useless when they are fighting on land, intercept and accuracy are on the same skills basically and there is Agripas crit skill against Cleopatras commander skill and that is the mater of taste what do you like better. Agripa has one star more in infantry then Cleopatra in archery. And as I said that is just my opinion man☺ Yes, I understood that it is Your opinion. I just wanted to find out what the opinion is based on. Not many can explain why they like this or that gen. Thanks. Even though I think that Cleo is more preferable to buy, as archers are not too much to choose, while Agrippa is worse than most of the infantry gens. |
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Post by Friedrich “Fried Rice” Paulus on Sept 14, 2019 11:42:32 GMT
Both talents are useless when they are fighting on land, intercept and accuracy are on the same skills basically and there is Agripas crit skill against Cleopatras commander skill and that is the mater of taste what do you like better. Agripa has one star more in infantry then Cleopatra in archery. And as I said that is just my opinion man☺ Yes, I understood that it is Your opinion. I just wanted to find out what the opinion is based on. Not many can explain why they like this or that gen. Thanks. Even though I think that Cleo is more preferable to buy, as archers are not too much to choose, while Agrippa is worse than most of the infantry gens. I wouldn’t say agrippa is that bad. He is a pretty good inf general imo. He is as strong as burebista (who isn’t bad at all). The only inf generals significantly better than him are labienus crassus and pompey |
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Post by andrei on Sept 14, 2019 12:53:39 GMT
Yes, I understood that it is Your opinion. I just wanted to find out what the opinion is based on. Not many can explain why they like this or that gen. Thanks. Even though I think that Cleo is more preferable to buy, as archers are not too much to choose, while Agrippa is worse than most of the infantry gens. I wouldn’t say agrippa is that bad. He is a pretty good inf general imo. He is as strong as burebista (who isn’t bad at all). The only inf generals significantly better than him are labienus crassus and pompey Vercingetorix, Bato are much better. And maybe even Cicerone. |
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Post by Friedrich “Fried Rice” Paulus on Sept 14, 2019 13:22:47 GMT
I wouldn’t say agrippa is that bad. He is a pretty good inf general imo. He is as strong as burebista (who isn’t bad at all). The only inf generals significantly better than him are labienus crassus and pompey Vercingetorix, Bato are much better. And maybe even Cicerone. Nah not cicero. Tunnel imo is garbage when not paired with siege. His talent is terrible and torch is a bad skill. Vercingetorix and Bato are decent, but they aren’t much better than him. Bato is faster, but deals less damage, whereas Vercingetorix is agrippa with jungle fighting instead of intercept (both are good). As I play gcr more and more, my opinion of both ambush and shield wall declines. I don’t really think they are necessary as more output is always needed. I honestly don’t think either are good skills anymore. I’d take counterattack over them anyday of the weak |
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Post by andrei on Sept 14, 2019 13:53:35 GMT
Vercingetorix, Bato are much better. And maybe even Cicerone. Nah not cicero. Tunnel imo is garbage when not paired with siege. His talent is terrible and torch is a bad skill. Vercingetorix and Bato are decent, but they aren’t much better than him. Bato is faster, but deals less damage, whereas Vercingetorix is agrippa with jungle fighting instead of intercept (both are good). As I play gcr more and more, my opinion of both ambush and shield wall declines. I don’t really think they are necessary as more output is always needed. I honestly don’t think either are good skills anymore. I’d take counterattack over them anyday of the weak Well, Cicero talent is terrible? Not if compared to no talent for Agrippa  Shield Wall and Ambush are great. Dunno why You changed Your mind. Really great skills when You have to deal with strong opponents (in campaigns for example). |
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Post by zabadanov86 on Sept 14, 2019 14:14:58 GMT
I'm super fan of shield wall. My commander has 30% chance to avoid 50% of damage and that is super useful.
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Still don't understand.
