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Post by zabadanov86 on Sept 14, 2019 14:19:31 GMT
Crit rate is pretty good though. Plus he starts at general. Finally, roar + intercept is quite good on an infantry general I bought both and I can confirm Agrippa is more useful and is able to hold his own pretty well and even survives to make it to land and still be useful there. Cleo is not that useful as archer units dies fast in sea and some might argue to deploy her on a infantry unit to increase her survival chances but that’s where we have Agrippa for. Also due to her atrocious stats in infantry and Calvary, she functions more as a burden when attempting suppression missions in the senate Can you make an experiment? Put Cleopatra on bowman with 0 rank and embark her and put Agripa on swordsman with 0 rank and embark him and we can see their stats as a navy commander. Max out their stats also naturaly. |
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Post by andrei on Sept 14, 2019 14:30:56 GMT
I'm super fan of shield wall. My commander has 30% chance to avoid 50% of damage and that is super useful. Saves life. Pompey, Spartacus, Vercingetorix can confirm  Awesome skill. |
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Post by Friedrich “Fried Rice” Paulus on Sept 14, 2019 14:33:15 GMT
I bought both and I can confirm Agrippa is more useful and is able to hold his own pretty well and even survives to make it to land and still be useful there. Cleo is not that useful as archer units dies fast in sea and some might argue to deploy her on a infantry unit to increase her survival chances but that’s where we have Agrippa for. Also due to her atrocious stats in infantry and Calvary, she functions more as a burden when attempting suppression missions in the senate Can you make an experiment? Put Cleopatra on bowman with 0 rank and embark her and put Agripa on swordsman with 0 rank and embark him and we can see their stats as a navy commander. Max out their stats also naturaly. How good a navy general is definitely depends on the unit type as well. For example, in augustus time, Agrippa has 675 hp in ships whereas Cleo has 510 hp. However, that being said, I think cleo is better as the only time we will ever need a navy general is in a team battle. |
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Post by Friedrich “Fried Rice” Paulus on Sept 14, 2019 14:37:38 GMT
I'm super fan of shield wall. My commander has 30% chance to avoid 50% of damage and that is super useful. Saves life. Pompey, Spartacus, Vercingetorix can confirm Awesome skill. I think it is decent. Ambush is garbage. But if spartacus had pf or counterattack instead of shield wall, he would be much better. |
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Post by Friedrich “Fried Rice” Paulus on Sept 14, 2019 14:40:19 GMT
Nah not cicero. Tunnel imo is garbage when not paired with siege. His talent is terrible and torch is a bad skill. Vercingetorix and Bato are decent, but they aren’t much better than him. Bato is faster, but deals less damage, whereas Vercingetorix is agrippa with jungle fighting instead of intercept (both are good). As I play gcr more and more, my opinion of both ambush and shield wall declines. I don’t really think they are necessary as more output is always needed. I honestly don’t think either are good skills anymore. I’d take counterattack over them anyday of the weak Well, Cicero talent is terrible? Not if compared to no talent for Agrippa Shield Wall and Ambush are great. Dunno why You changed Your mind. Really great skills when You have to deal with strong opponents (in campaigns for example). If you run fast, you can always retreat, tier up your units than advance. I think cicero has virtually no talent either. I don’t like the talent he has, not one bit. If you deal with strong opponents, you flank them demoralize them and move in for the kill |
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Post by andrei on Sept 14, 2019 14:44:53 GMT
Can you make an experiment? Put Cleopatra on bowman with 0 rank and embark her and put Agripa on swordsman with 0 rank and embark him and we can see their stats as a navy commander. Max out their stats also naturaly. How good a navy general is definitely depends on the unit type as well. For example, in augustus time, Agrippa has 675 hp in ships whereas Cleo has 510 hp. However, that being said, I think cleo is better as the only time we will ever need a navy general is in a team battle. I doubt we need to compare them as Navy. We simply don't need navy. At all. That's why I look at their usability not taking into account navy. I sometimes use Cleo as Archer. But can't imagine myself assigning Agrippa. Too many infantry gens better than him. |
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Post by kingbutawl on Sept 14, 2019 15:11:12 GMT
You buy Agrippa when you want to experience the "necessity" of having a navy general , but you need the second infantry general in your setup (or maybe the third) .
For the same reason you take Cleopatra to get also a second archery general (but no more , otherwise you'll be a "kamikaze yakuza sempai" ) .
In conclusion both generals are good in navy and average respectively in archery and infantry . There are many divergences in the previous chats , but do not let you distract by one thing......
Sextus Pompey is the real bad choice (and it's outrageous that easytech made him strong in campaign just to stress me . They should have made him almost a bit more "consistent" in therms of power).
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Post by zabadanov86 on Sept 14, 2019 15:18:50 GMT
How good a navy general is definitely depends on the unit type as well. For example, in augustus time, Agrippa has 675 hp in ships whereas Cleo has 510 hp. However, that being said, I think cleo is better as the only time we will ever need a navy general is in a team battle. I doubt we need to compare them as Navy. We simply don't need navy. At all. That's why I look at their usability not taking into account navy. I sometimes use Cleo as Archer. But can't imagine myself assigning Agrippa. Too many infantry gens better than him. I agree. As I said before I imagine Agrippa on a heavy infantry equipped with a quinqureme sailing down the coast bringing chaos to coastal cities and defenders and I think no one can do that job better than him, and going on land only when necessary, not as a front line infantry general. |
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Post by Friedrich “Fried Rice” Paulus on Sept 14, 2019 15:36:38 GMT
How good a navy general is definitely depends on the unit type as well. For example, in augustus time, Agrippa has 675 hp in ships whereas Cleo has 510 hp. However, that being said, I think cleo is better as the only time we will ever need a navy general is in a team battle. I doubt we need to compare them as Navy. We simply don't need navy. At all. That's why I look at their usability not taking into account navy. I sometimes use Cleo as Archer. But can't imagine myself assigning Agrippa. Too many infantry gens better than him. I agree. Someone like crassus can be a great navy general whereas being very useful on land. |
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Post by Friedrich “Fried Rice” Paulus on Sept 16, 2019 2:04:18 GMT
Wait, the asian expedition came out too? Nice!
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Post by kingbutawl on Sept 16, 2019 14:55:04 GMT
Really ? I might give it a try
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Post by malemermaid on Oct 26, 2019 8:08:37 GMT
Btw, I have the perfect number for my generals, 6. 2 of them is infantry, 2 of them is cavalry, 2 of them is Archer.
Crassus, Labienus.
Arminius, Anthony.
Commander, Mithridates.
I have enough medals to get a golden spear, I buy it, or i get another gen?
Thanks
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Post by Friedrich “Fried Rice” Paulus on Oct 26, 2019 12:34:58 GMT
Btw, I have the perfect number for my generals, 6. 2 of them is infantry, 2 of them is cavalry, 2 of them is Archer. Crassus, Labienus. Arminius, Anthony. Commander, Mithridates. I have enough medals to get a golden spear, I buy it, or i get another gen? Thanks Get the golden spear |
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Post by kanue on Oct 26, 2019 14:21:18 GMT
Btw, I have the perfect number for my generals, 6. 2 of them is infantry, 2 of them is cavalry, 2 of them is Archer. Crassus, Labienus. Arminius, Anthony. Commander, Mithridates. I have enough medals to get a golden spear, I buy it, or i get another gen? Thanks Golden Spear is a big boost to you general but if you want to buy it, make sure that you have a marshal rank general to equip it. |
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Post by malemermaid on Oct 26, 2019 15:58:15 GMT
One of my mens must be at the rank of Marshall? Oh well, I guess, i'm gonna grind medals, i'm only at 420 medals XD
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