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Post by littlecorporal on Jun 29, 2020 10:54:56 GMT
I have put all my guide posts (lol) onto the first page. Thanks for everyones supporr and advice.
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Post by littlecorporal on Jun 29, 2020 12:51:36 GMT
I'm interested to know which princess general should be regrouped first and why? I choose Kate because as a naval general her skills are not as useful as Maria on infantry during HRE. Any different opinions?
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Post by ππ³π°π΅π΄π¬πΊ on Jun 29, 2020 14:56:50 GMT
First thing really nice Guide!
Comments will come - there a few smaller points to discuss but - you show impressive detailed how a fluent successful free to play path will be.
P.S. You always can edit and add notes or links to your original posts - Your guide is already amazingly complete!
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Post by ππ³π°π΅π΄π¬πΊ on Jun 29, 2020 15:05:30 GMT
My only disagree for first:
I would not spend π for upgrading the ranks.
- done -
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Post by ππ³π°π΅π΄π¬πΊ on Jun 29, 2020 15:18:10 GMT
The conquests path you describe is the typicall one - with knowledge and guides this can be probably shortened (I.e. GB1812 is not necessary if you keep one US1775 save)
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Post by ππ³π°π΅π΄π¬πΊ on Jun 29, 2020 17:08:20 GMT
I like the Idea to start directly with the conquest. On the other hand: For me as beginner it was very helpful to play the first missions without generals - and Imperial Eagle was the perfect training (same scenario / generals) for the FR98 conquest. Before my start this was my info:  Now I know that I have overseen or undervalued the word even. |
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Post by ππ³π°π΅π΄π¬πΊ on Jun 29, 2020 20:02:50 GMT
What I see - we have very different lineups - but we encounter the same effect:
If you relay only on princess, the game provides pretty exact all you need by the time - 'farming medals' is really not necessary - as long you don't buy and develop male combat generals.
I see the storyline of the whole game like this: I can replay the (semi) historic battles of the Napoleonic Wars,
With high performance, I can win in extra conquests some 'princess' they help me to change history. (We rescued LaSalle in Wargam)
With your explanations, you solidated my standpoint:
It's the princess game
I think your guide will be very useful.
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Post by littlecorporal on Jun 30, 2020 1:53:55 GMT
I think the free to play version is the princess game, but once you start buying slots, it's about assembling the best team and concentrating on the princesses can be a mistake.
After training Maria twice to 5 stars infantry, she is still underwhelming. She gets charged by cavalry and spends the next two rounds scared.
You don't really need to train Sophia outside of artillery. You are better off just getting a good cavalry general and naval/ artillery hybrid.
Arnold and his 5 trading stars are more important to build your economy than Fatima.
Problem is in free to play your slots are limited and you can't buy medals so even small mistakes can have vast repurcussions. The first time I played I got Marmont as my first general but once I got Sophia and Isabella, he wasnt so useful anymore.
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Post by ππ³π°π΅π΄π¬πΊ on Jun 30, 2020 12:08:05 GMT
I think the free to play version is the princess game, but once you start buying slots, it's about assembling the best team and concentrating on the princesses can be a mistake. After training Maria twice to 5 stars infantry, she is still underwhelming. She gets charged by cavalry and spends the next two rounds scared. You don't really need to train Sophia outside of artillery. You are better off just getting a good cavalry general and naval/ artillery hybrid. Arnold and his 5 trading stars are more important to build your economy than Fatima. Problem is in free to play your slots are limited and you can't buy medals so even small mistakes can have vast repurcussions. The first time I played I got Marmont as my first general but once I got Sophia and Isabella, he wasnt so useful anymore. Four slots are hard and require a lot of planning - you showed one reasonable way! And you explain the whole f2p path - I haven't seen such a complete guide before. I didn't join Maria or Kate once. The only situations I use an infantry general are missions where you get a double MachineGun at the start - with Sakurako they move 3hex. (I have no infantry items at all) Kate can be useful in SNS but at this time you should have Victoria to be your Admiral. I felt in love with Fatima (I bought an extra slot just for her) for her key role in many missions before SNS. My first trainers ever, I used to bring her on 5 trade. Now on my second play I bought Arnold at the start - I didn't expect that he was sooo useful - he is an amazing booster for the princess runs - practical he got all the girls for me alone. You are right: it is not necessary to train Sophia on cavalry as she is needed always on artillery. I gave her again one Agha but there are no situations in missions where you need her on cavalry, even with Isabella as first arti. Cavalry trainers for Sophia are wasted. It is amazing how many new insights this community still produces for a more than 5 year old game. Thank you a lot for your fresh guide @littlecoporal. PS. Have a look at Friedrich βFried Riceβ Paulus 's perfect staring group |
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Post by littlecorporal on Jul 1, 2020 3:58:17 GMT
@trotzki
I have reworked some of the guidelines for items and training to reflect your advice. I am still in the middle of following this guide myself and will make changes as I continue. The basic plan seems workable.
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Post by littlecorporal on Jul 1, 2020 4:01:37 GMT
I agree about Arnold. As I really want to make this guide simple, I won't put the Arnold "shortcut" or the idea about first winning easy missions, getting trainers, then princesses in there. Though I agree that there are many ways to follow the same basic plan.
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Post by ππ³π°π΅π΄π¬πΊ on Jul 1, 2020 12:49:08 GMT
Your title is very precise: No grinding path to victory.
It's the common, (hopefully) practical path to victory you explain. I think not to relay on shortcuts and advanced techniques make your guide so interresting and useful.
All my comments are more informational smalltalk (generals, items etc) and no complaints! Only one exception: Medals for Rank
In many aspects your guide looks like a diary of my gameplay or I did exact the opposite.
I'm very interested in your progress and if you encounter difficulties on your path. Are you still in the flow? ...
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Post by littlecorporal on Jul 1, 2020 14:20:14 GMT
Your title is very precise: No grinding path to victory. It's the common, (hopefully) practical path to victory you explain. I think not to relay on shortcuts and advanced techniques make your guide so interresting and useful. All my comments are more informational smalltalk (generals, items etc) and no complaints! Only one exception: Medals for RankIn many aspects your guide looks like a diary of my gameplay or I did exact the opposite. I'm very interested in your progress and if you encounter difficulties on your path. Are you still in the flow? ... Kind of, lol. I'm still trying to win the game the first time with my big line up. I'm at The Road to Hell scenario. For my free game, I just started (Battle of Jena). Once I finish the Sun Never Sets, I'll devote more time to it. But now I am back at work teaching so I cant devote whole days to it. |
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Post by ππ³π°π΅π΄π¬πΊ on Jul 1, 2020 14:38:26 GMT
Kind of, lol. I'm still trying to win the game the first time with my big line up. I'm at The Road to Hell scenario. For my free game, I just started (Battle of Jena). Once I finish the Sun Never Sets, I'll devote more time to it. But now I am back at work teaching so I cant devote whole days to it. Road to hell looks scary. I don't have time to play every day either. Do you have already Victoria for SNS? A second propeller will be really useful. |
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Post by littlecorporal on Jul 3, 2020 1:07:07 GMT
I mostly finished SNS yesterday. I had a cough so took the day off of teaching, which meant plenty of time to play ew4!
SNS was easy. After completing the campaigns, it seems like Imperial Eagle is the most difficult. That was the only campaign it took several tries to figure out a strategy, win, and then try for 5 stars. On the rest of the campaigns, I was usually able to get 5 stars on the first try, often with tactical and strategic errors.
It's possible that I have improved my game play and I have stronger generals, but really I think the game gets easier. Expedition Russia is probably the most difficult scenario. It's the only one with an onslaught of over powered generals who if you never retreat will destroy you.
That being said, SNS was easy mostly because of good naval generals, in particular Kate. She was the Lan of the last campaign, much more than the real Lan who sat in my academy for most of the campaign. Which leads me to my point.
Maybe I have the order wrong. Maybe Kate should sit on the sidelines until SNS. Maybe her 4 training stars are the real clue to her value. Maybe, at least for winning campaigns instead of conquests,she is (gulp) better than Sophia.
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