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Post by siriusk on May 3, 2023 13:56:51 GMT
It may be fast but considering the guide for HRE princess run reaches Barcelona in 12 turns is still faster than mine 15 turns (albeit I use Sophia on Siege Cannon) and hard to break sub 30, plus in general I tend to over spam.
Decided to try out USA 1776 using a guide I found (the link somehow links back to this page) and my god does the starving feels good, manage to pull off a 25 turn for the first try and only got asia 500 year probably because I spam too much militia and light calvs to rid the British Forts and to hold villages, even though that front ended earlier than the actual final front (St Louis), I think I should skip the small towns that doesn't have adjacent farms. Might consider getting a war horse for Sophia (currently my war horse is on Sakurako)
Also since I'm at USA campaign now, should I start using 1812 NA to grind my Nobility?
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Post by Nobunaga Oda on May 4, 2023 9:52:07 GMT
siriusk, if you don't mind, you can swap equipment out during a campaign/conquest so the two can share one War Horse alone. A key point of this guide is to minimise unnecessary spending and sharing equipment is one way. If you want to grind nobility, simply use the Chain the Beast method.
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Post by ππ³π°π΅π΄π¬πΊ on May 4, 2023 19:25:03 GMT
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Post by siriusk on May 6, 2023 4:35:35 GMT
I used the Chain the Beast method to get nobility up from 47700 to 56480, and the way I played USA 1776 is according to the guide (modified of course, Washington stays in Philadelphia, Isabella on Heavy arty and helps in taking Cleveland, Sophia on Seige and helps in the south), manage to finish in 24 turns with 6000+ coins and 2000+ metal, yet I still can't get 550 Asian years I use Maria to grind nobility (since she's the infantry general I have) but she can't be placed into the conquest, does that affect my score? Or is it the HQ nobility score that counts? Also how did you get 900 American years while finishing at 30 turns? I only got to 800 American years despite finishing at 24 turns |
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Post by Nobunaga Oda on May 6, 2023 8:34:37 GMT
siriusk, ππ³π°π΅π΄π¬πΊ deduced the potential formula. I think it's the Nobility of gens you own at the moment that mattered, not exactly HQ Nobility. You need to exceed 9k gold, 3k (or was it 6k or 9k?) iron, and 9k food when you finish without exceeding the turn "limit". Clearing more campaigns should also help.
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Post by siriusk on May 6, 2023 10:22:41 GMT
siriusk, ππ³π°π΅π΄π¬πΊ deduced the potential formula. I think it's the Nobility of gens you own at the moment that mattered, not exactly HQ Nobility. You need to exceed 9k gold, 3k (or was it 6k or 9k?) iron, and 9k food when you finish without exceeding the turn "limit". Clearing more campaigns should also help. I assume you mean the formula being the rice formula, well damn the current one i have is 464.9 Asian years (311 stars), guess I'll have to grind up Sakurako and Isabella nobilities and 5 stars all of HRE I don't think resources alone would be able to counter the enormous rice gained from doing sub 25 in my case Well I read wrong and thought the generals in the conquest that matter instead of general I own and now I regret regrouping Maria into Sakurako, straight up dropped my Asian year into 450  The 3 generals combined rank and nobility exceeds 70000 thou |
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Post by ππ³π°π΅π΄π¬πΊ on May 6, 2023 11:39:31 GMT
siriusk, ππ³π°π΅π΄π¬πΊ deduced the potential formula. I think it's the Nobility of gens you own at the moment that mattered, not exactly HQ Nobility. You need to exceed 9k gold, 3k (or was it 6k or 9k?) iron, and 9k food when you finish without exceeding the turn "limit". Clearing more campaigns should also help. I assume you mean the formula being the rice formula, well damn the current one i have is 464.9 Asian years (311 stars), guess I'll have to grind up Sakurako and Isabella nobilities and 5 stars all of HRE I don't think resources alone would be able to counter the enormous rice gained from doing sub 25 in my case Well I read wrong and thought the generals in the conquest that matter instead of general I own and now I regret regrouping Maria into Sakurako, straight up dropped my Asian year into 450 The 3 generals combined rank and nobility exceeds 70000 thou One thing first - If you have a trader, max out food and gold before to finish - the final count is 2:1 and you can change them 5:1 with a trader - if you see my scores, I only note wrenches (9999 food+ 9999 gold - always) The headquarter rice-limit for Asia is 175 000 - for europe it is 70 000 ! Sad, but regrouping lowers your score - all actuall headquarter counts. The nobility grind can add a lot of years - probable enough for your case. |
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Post by siriusk on May 6, 2023 15:47:46 GMT
Would it be easier for me to get Victoria first before Lan in my current situation? Since I have an extra space now and even with max Nobility on all generals I still need war xp in order to reach the limit.
Also, I don't really get what you mean changing the final count from 2:1 to 5:1
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Post by ππ³π°π΅π΄π¬πΊ on May 7, 2023 14:45:43 GMT
Would it be easier for me to get Victoria first before Lan in my current situation? Since I have an extra space now and even with max Nobility on all generals I still need war xp in order to reach the limit. Also, I don't really get what you mean changing the final count from 2:1 to 5:1 Yes it would be easier - I think so too. Victoria is to get mid-game. Lan profits from more experience. I personally just have no use for Victoria. For the years ressources are valued 2:1, it is explained here: european-war-4.boards.net/thread/12564/850-900-years-resources-calculationJust as example : these ressources are all equal in years: 9999π° 3001π§ 9999π 9999π° 3126π§ 9500π 9999π° 3501π§ 8000π 9000π° 3751π§ 9000π 8000π° 4501π§ 8000π 5000π° 6751π§ 5000π |
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Post by siriusk on May 9, 2023 8:58:44 GMT
Would it be easier for me to get Victoria first before Lan in my current situation? Since I have an extra space now and even with max Nobility on all generals I still need war xp in order to reach the limit. Also, I don't really get what you mean changing the final count from 2:1 to 5:1 Yes it would be easier - I think so too. Victoria is to get mid-game. Lan profits from more experience. I personally just have no use for Victoria. For the years ressources are valued 2:1, it is explained here: european-war-4.boards.net/thread/12564/850-900-years-resources-calculationJust as example : these ressources are all equal in years: 9999π° 3001π§ 9999π 9999π° 3126π§ 9500π 9999π° 3501π§ 8000π 9000π° 3751π§ 9000π 8000π° 4501π§ 8000π 5000π° 6751π§ 5000π Tried HRE again but traded loads of metals for gold and upgrading basically every city in home territory then began to save up at like 20 turns, manage to max out money and nearly maxed up food with 5000+ metals and got Victoria in 32 turns Asia is still pain in the butt with 400 years since I passed the sweet sub 30 |
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Post by siriusk on May 9, 2023 11:51:32 GMT
Update: after raising Victoria's Nobility to +5 (with HQ nobility at 80000+) and added some rank, I used the turn 24 1775 USA save and got Lan
And now I realized I have no spare slots to upgrade Lan with trainers....
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Post by ππ³π°π΅π΄π¬πΊ on May 11, 2023 15:30:19 GMT
Update: after raising Victoria's Nobility to +5 (with HQ nobility at 80000+) and added some rank, I used the turn 24 1775 USA save and got Lan And now I realized I have no spare slots to upgrade Lan with trainers.... Great ! It is so helpfull to understand the scoring, isn't it ? - Well done ! This guide should help to avoid this problem - I just have one good solution: Two more slots - if you can, it's worth it - and you will profit a lot in the campaign with 6 commander. |
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Post by siriusk on May 14, 2023 6:36:08 GMT
Update: after raising Victoria's Nobility to +5 (with HQ nobility at 80000+) and added some rank, I used the turn 24 1775 USA save and got Lan And now I realized I have no spare slots to upgrade Lan with trainers.... Great ! It is so helpfull to understand the scoring, isn't it ? - Well done ! This guide should help to avoid this problem - I just have one good solution: Two more slots - if you can, it's worth it - and you will profit a lot in the campaign with 6 commander. I don't really like to purchase things, and since with better knowledge about this game, I don't think it'll hurt much to retry (considering how fast it is I got to Lan, and how satisfying it is to starve the UK in 1775) Here's some overall facts I experienced using this guide as well as the general game and why I want to retry 1. 3 star cavalry on Sophia is just bad, she deals just as much damage as Fatimah. With 5 stars on Artillery you might as well rush to a factory to get Sophia on the front ASAP, even with a tier 1 light arty she absolutely rocks. Even if she's not on the mission to destroy forts, her damage is still strong. In my experience on using 5 star arty Sophia on HRE princess run, it only took like 3-5 rounds for her to destroy Madrid. On the naval side she actually isn't that bad, I get 30 and above damage with her on a frigate, although it may be a bit narrow sighted since I rarely put her on the ships. 2. Even with 3 cavalry stars, Lan absolutely rocks, although I did put the pistol and war drums on her. 3. I spent most stars on upgrade, clearly not the brightest and I did a Serbia conquest run to get some medals (Chose Serbia cuz it's funny). 4. Maria is better than Fatimah, not only she has the Noblemen skill to farm Nobility, her movement and 3 star infantry isn't isn't that bad compare to the abysmal damage that Fatimah outputs. I'm not sure is it because I added pistol on Sakurako but I remember Sakurako dealt more damage compared to Fatimah, then again I forgot when did I added pistol on her. Victoria with 3 star infantry also rocks hard on the frontlines, especially with the lethal strike I remember her dealing 100+ damage. The things I've listed may need a pinch of salt though, some of these facts I didn't try out a lot, like Sophia on cav, which was just based on the experience on the Westward Expansion level where her on a heavy cav deals just shy over 20 damage. |
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Post by ππ³π°π΅π΄π¬πΊ on May 14, 2023 18:54:46 GMT
Just one warning Princess you only get once.
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Post by siriusk on May 24, 2023 13:16:12 GMT
I have gotten Isabella now... in my conquest save that didn't even used generals. Coalition and Eagle about to be completed but the RNG forbids me from getting another arty trainer for Sophia's fifth star. Still, the restart is worth it since I have 100+ stars in my inventory and much of the campaign somehow got first try 5 stars (other than russian expedition, BY 1 TURN NOOOOOOOOO).
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