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Post by Friedrich βFried Riceβ Paulus on Jul 3, 2020 12:11:22 GMT
What I see - we have very different lineups - but we encounter the same effect: If you relay only on princess, the game provides pretty exact all you need by the time - 'farming medals' is really not necessary - as long you don't buy and develop male combat generals.I see the storyline of the whole game like this: I can replay the (semi) historic battles of the Napoleonic Wars, With high performance, I can win in extra conquests some 'princess' they help me to change history. (We rescued LaSalle in Wargam) With your explanations, you solidated my standpoint: It's the princess game I think your guide will be very useful. How did you manage to save lasalle in the battle of wagram? I give him wine, he has too little hp to survive. I give him the maxed healing item, he is still rumored and bubnaβs entire group attacks him, killing him in one turn. Just curious honestly, I donβt think saving lasalle is worth it too as he only has 1 training star and his health is too low to make him useful. Plus he is only on a tier 1 heavy cavarly. |
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Post by Friedrich βFried Riceβ Paulus on Jul 3, 2020 12:12:52 GMT
I mostly finished SNS yesterday. I had a cough so took the day off of teaching, which meant plenty of time to play ew4! SNS was easy. After completing the campaigns, it seems like Imperial Eagle is the most difficult. That was the only campaign it took several tries to figure out a strategy, win, and then try for 5 stars. On the rest of the campaigns, I was usually able to get 5 stars on the first try, often with tactical and strategic errors. It's possible that I have improved my game play and I have stronger generals, but really I think the game gets easier. Expedition Russia is probably the most difficult scenario. It's the only one with an onslaught of over powered generals who if you never retreat will destroy you. That being said, SNS was easy mostly because of good naval generals, in particular Kate. She was the Lan of the last campaign, much more than the real Lan who sat in my academy for most of the campaign. Which leads me to my point. Maybe I have the order wrong. Maybe Kate should sit on the sidelines until SNS. Maybe her 4 training stars are the real clue to her value. Maybe, at least for winning campaigns instead of conquests,she is (gulp) better than Sophia. The naval missions are pretty terrible, so without a navy general, it is a hard one to beat. Sophia with 5 stars navy is a must have especially for the awful denmark mission |
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Post by ππ³π°π΅π΄π¬πΊ on Jul 3, 2020 16:38:53 GMT
[ ... ] I see the storyline of the whole game like this: I can replay the (semi) historic battles of the Napoleonic Wars, With high performance, I can win in extra conquests some 'princess' they help me to change history. (We rescued LaSalle in Wargam) [ ... ] How did you manage to save lasalle in the battle of wagram? I give him wine, he has too little hp to survive. I give him the maxed healing item, he is still rumored and bubnaβs entire group attacks him, killing him in one turn. Just curious honestly, I donβt think saving lasalle is worth it too as he only has 1 training star and his health is too low to make him useful. Plus he is only on a tier 1 heavy cavarly. I wanted to rescue him! At any costs. The efforts are absurd! In every of the first 6 rounds he absolutely needs a big! medipack - the AI is even intensivating the attack! The movements of the generals are extreme tricy. Lan and Sakurako on the weakened units close to LaSalle. Soophia on the fresh Guards Cav. and Isabella on the heavy artillery - it took me hours to find a working attack order. But it was a great satisfaction: LaSalle survived! - An amazingly good feeling - I'm still happy that I wasted two or threehundert medals for this stupid goal. My alternative history. For the mission it doesn't make any sence! Maybe I have to add a β
Don't do this at Wargam!β
I wanted to make a howto but it became too expensive to try it a second time. |
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Post by ππ³π°π΅π΄π¬πΊ on Jul 3, 2020 18:42:06 GMT
I mostly finished SNS yesterday. I had a cough so took the day off of teaching, which meant plenty of time to play ew4! SNS was easy. After completing the campaigns, it seems like Imperial Eagle is the most difficult. That was the only campaign it took several tries to figure out a strategy, win, and then try for 5 stars. On the rest of the campaigns, I was usually able to get 5 stars on the first try, often with tactical and strategic errors. It's possible that I have improved my game play and I have stronger generals, but really I think the game gets easier. Expedition Russia is probably the most difficult scenario. It's the only one with an onslaught of over powered generals who if you never retreat will destroy you. That being said, SNS was easy mostly because of good naval generals, in particular Kate. She was the Lan of the last campaign, much more than the real Lan who sat in my academy for most of the campaign. Which leads me to my point. Maybe I have the order wrong. Maybe Kate should sit on the sidelines until SNS. Maybe her 4 training stars are the real clue to her value. Maybe, at least for winning campaigns instead of conquests,she is (gulp) better than Sophia. SNS easy? - For you with good Navy generals - for me without, SNS was the first challenge after IE - two missions I couldn't full win and one I had to restart - a complete fail (food shortage) IE has the most, and a lot of complex and longer missions. Relaying on bad/weak generals make it hard. During the game the campaigns get shorter and have more blitz missions - and for sure your, and your generals, gained experience helps a lot. I postponed my HRE conquest and was surprised when suddenly the Final Battle interrupted my flow. I never joined the beautiful Kate - for me Victoria (I picked her for the last stars) was the needed Admiral. I think you should get Victoria before SNS and regroup Fatima's experience to her. |
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Post by Gone on Jul 3, 2020 20:06:05 GMT
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Post by littlecorporal on Jul 3, 2020 23:51:05 GMT
Kind of, lol. I'm still trying to win the game the first time with my big line up. I'm at The Road to Hell scenario. For my free game, I just started (Battle of Jena). Once I finish the Sun Never Sets, I'll devote more time to it. But now I am back at work teaching so I cant devote whole days to it. Road to hell looks scary. I don't have time to play every day either. Do you have already Victoria for SNS? A second propeller will be really useful. Brilliant hack! Two propellers give the same movement as the naval generals with sailor skill. |
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Post by junius on Jul 4, 2020 12:49:07 GMT
I think your path is easy and reliable, but for the princesses like Sophia and Isabela I advice a HRE conquest (for me it's less harder to finish in time ). Thank you! I wanted to get it out there and listen to the experts advice before editing. The biggest difference is HRE doesn't have as far to go but the French generals are stronger. For the French I send Marmont to Portugal, Napolean to Sardinia and the two Sicilies, and heavily rely on tavern generals. I will make a guide someday. My biggest question is actually where to post this thread. It seems like 3 chat groups is two too many. I guess we can only assume that people will look for advice in all 3. A. Portugal can handle itself. It doesnβt need a General until youβre down defeating Britain. Send your two starting light infantry to snipe Zaragoza and some production buildings from the Spanish and go to work. B. Marmont is then free to deal with the Mediterranean C. Boney can then deal with Vienna/Poland/Russia. |
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Post by littlecorporal on Jul 4, 2020 14:38:10 GMT
I've played both strategies. It seems much easier to send Marmont to Portugal and then you can save resources by not spamming. Ditto with Napoleon in the Mediterranean. He finishes a few rounds before everyone else but it's not a problem.
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Post by littlecorporal on Jul 18, 2020 0:25:24 GMT
As I am playing the guide out now, I will post some updates.
I have finished the first two campaigns with Sophia, Maria, Fatima, and Kate. I regrouped Agha into Sophia once so she is at 3 stars cavalry. I have bought a snare drum, war horse, and armored carrier. Even though I had to pay a little extra because I don't have a 5 star trader, those 3 items can be shared by every general.
I think my next move will be to attempt to get Isabella, regroup Maria, and then complete the HRE campaign.
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Post by ππ³π°π΅π΄π¬πΊ on Jul 18, 2020 0:54:26 GMT
As I am playing the guide out now, I will post some updates. I have finished the first two campaigns with Sophia, Maria, Fatima, and Kate. I regrouped Agha into Sophia once so she is at 3 stars cavalry. I have bought a snare drum, war horse, and armored carrier. Even though I had to pay a little extra because I don't have a 5 star trader, those 3 items can be shared by every general. I think my next move will be to attempt to get Isabella, regroup Maria, and then complete the HRE campaign. Nice, I'm curious - Maria is tough?. I just started HRE with my dreamteam - and I have also Sophia +1 Cav. Funny coincidence, but IMO not so useful - special early. My concept: Items before trainer! If I have really every item I want, I start to think about trainer - Items are much cheaper for a similar effect (move/damage) and you even can share them! I have now always a 5β
trader but I bought a lot of top Items in the daily shop to have them earlier (and three! extra snairs) I even borrow a tent from the campaign. |
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Post by littlecorporal on Jul 18, 2020 5:58:35 GMT
I agree. I am also unsure about Sophia's longterm potential. The two movement and training stars put her at a disadvantage. So I am not sure about investing more regroups into her.
Maria is easy to regroup but I'm not so sure about Fatima/Kate/Sophia for Lan and Sakuroko. Who to regroup for who and when.
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Post by littlecorporal on Jul 18, 2020 6:12:01 GMT
Many early campaign scenarios have,a double strength guard cavalary. Sophia can concentrate on taking cities and attacking forts.
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Post by ππ³π°π΅π΄π¬πΊ on Jul 18, 2020 12:09:01 GMT
I agree. I am also unsure about Sophia's longterm potential. The two movement and training stars put her at a disadvantage. So I am not sure about investing more regroups into her. Maria is easy to regroup but I'm not so sure about Fatima/Kate/Sophia for Lan and Sakuroko. Who to regroup for who and when. As you lately grouped the princess: Sophia as a first class princess (3 skill) can move 3hex. The elite princess (4 skill) can move 4hex. The 'slow' movement is Sophia's handycap in endgame. The question, who to regroup into who and when is interesting: (I'm unsure) Info: after 234β
campaign you don't get a higher score for Europe with more progress - so, IMO after HRE is the time to pick Victoria. I think that Maria's Nobleman is helping to get Lan - even if unused, her bonus counts. Don't regroup before a Lan run. HRE has many artillery missions for three artillery generals. With Isabella, Sophia and Sakurako it is an easy campaign. For me at least Isabella should be on board when starting HRE. |
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Post by littlecorporal on Jul 18, 2020 16:03:07 GMT
It's too easy in the game to fall in love with the Princesses.
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Post by littlecorporal on Aug 6, 2020 8:11:01 GMT
The first princess I regrouped was Kate. She was mainly used as an artillery general and once Isabella was won and IE and Coalition completed, I regrouped her into Sophia and added Isabella. I didn't do any training.
The only Items I purchased were a snare drum, war horse and armored carrier. My plan is to wait until Lan is available before buying new items.
The daily advert giveaways make the tents useless. The Chinese version doesn't have them.
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