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Post by stoic on Nov 20, 2020 7:32:47 GMT
My recommendation is to forget about Konev and Leeb for the time being , and to get Rommel/Guderian and Vatutin/Rokossovsky (or Montgomery). Artillery is great in support, but you have to build your relentless attack first. ET games have some common features. More often than not you will attack (rather than to défend). And no one has the same attacking potential as tank generals. So I should get at least 1 powerhouse tank gen in each side then work from there? I'm afraid that tanks are gonna be left in the dust in the pacific campaigns That was what I thought when started GoG Pacific after original GoG. Yet my only hired blade Vatutin was an MVP in Pacific. Two tanks generals on each side as the first stage of the plan, no compromise  |
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Post by eeeeef on Nov 20, 2020 7:35:32 GMT
So I should get at least 1 powerhouse tank gen in each side then work from there? I'm afraid that tanks are gonna be left in the dust in the pacific campaigns That was what I thought when started GoG Pacific after original GoG. Yet my only hired blade Vatutin was an MVP in Pacific. Two tanks generals on each side as the first stage of the plan, no compromise How about guderian+leeb on the axis side(the harder side) then only vatutin on the allied side? |
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Post by stoic on Nov 20, 2020 7:40:12 GMT
That was what I thought when started GoG Pacific after original GoG. Yet my only hired blade Vatutin was an MVP in Pacific. Two tanks generals on each side as the first stage of the plan, no compromise How about guderian+leeb on the axis side(the harder side) then only vatutin on the allied side? If so, then Guderian+Rommel and Vatutin |
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Post by eeeeef on Nov 20, 2020 7:44:37 GMT
How about guderian+leeb on the axis side(the harder side) then only vatutin on the allied side? If so, then Guderian+Rommel and Vatutin I think I'm gonna test both combos with cloud save feature before I decide |
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Post by stoic on Nov 20, 2020 7:48:51 GMT
If so, then Guderian+Rommel and Vatutin I think I'm gonna test both combos with cloud save feature before I decide Good decision  |
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Post by eeeeef on Nov 20, 2020 8:02:29 GMT
I think I'm gonna test both combos with cloud save feature before I decide Good decision I think I was more impressed with leeb+goderian than Rommel+goderian I tested them in winter war and goderian absolutely rekted timo and leeb wrecked leningrad meanwhile Rommel did manage to beat voronov I'm still more impressed by leebs power on ligths artillery than Rommel on armored cars Vatutin did well he was basically slower less durable goderian I think I'm going to go with the leeb+goderian combo Having the best axis tank gen and the best axis art gen is a really powerful combo |
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Post by Henri Winkelman on Nov 20, 2020 8:32:34 GMT
Good decision I think I was more impressed with leeb+goderian than Rommel+goderian I tested them in winter war and goderian absolutely rekted timo and leeb wrecked leningrad meanwhile Rommel did manage to beat voronov I'm still more impressed by leebs power on ligths artillery than Rommel on armored cars Vatutin did well he was basically slower less durable goderian I think I'm going to go with the leeb+goderian combo Having the best axis tank gen and the best axis art gen is a really powerful combo Have you also tried putting Rommel on a tank, instead of an armored car? Though Guderian is a bit better in overall situations, Rommel will most likely be stronger then Guderian in 1941 Northern Africa. Besides this, because there is no late game eastern front (sadly), Guderian will not be in any lineup after 1941 Eastern Front, but Rommel will be in 1941 North African and probably in 1944 Western Front aswell. I think these some factors you should also keep in mind when choosing between Guderian and Rommel in the long run. |
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Post by eeeeef on Nov 20, 2020 8:45:04 GMT
I think I was more impressed with leeb+goderian than Rommel+goderian I tested them in winter war and goderian absolutely rekted timo and leeb wrecked leningrad meanwhile Rommel did manage to beat voronov I'm still more impressed by leebs power on ligths artillery than Rommel on armored cars Vatutin did well he was basically slower less durable goderian I think I'm going to go with the leeb+goderian combo Having the best axis tank gen and the best axis art gen is a really powerful combo Have you also tried putting Rommel on a tank, instead of an armored car? Though Guderian is a bit better in overall situations, Rommel will most likely be stronger then Guderian in 1941 Northern Africa. Besides this, because there is no late game eastern front (sadly), Guderian will not be in any lineup after 1941 Eastern Front, but Rommel will be in 1941 North African and probably in 1944 Western Front aswell. I think these some factors you should also keep in mind when choosing between Guderian and Rommel in the long run. Yes however when comparing them 1 to 1 guderians blitzkrieg shines through and since in gog3 missions are usually longer and that the only tank that has 2 range is insanely expensive I think I would chose guderian as he would be more effective in most missions thanks to blitzkrieg and rommel's artillery power is drawfed by leeb who can make use of artillery leader due to artillerys ridiculous range |
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Post by Der Kommandeur on Nov 20, 2020 8:54:29 GMT
Rokossovsky’s skills look incredibly good. I am seriously thinking about getting him, might be good enough for you too. Did someone buy him and therefore is able to confirm my suspicions? |
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Post by eeeeef on Nov 20, 2020 9:03:12 GMT
Rokossovsky’s skills look incredibly good. I am seriously thinking about getting him, might be good enough for you too. Did someone buy him and therefore is able to confirm my suspicions? I dunno he has 2 good skills and 1 meh skill and he has a 3tank 2move spread which is decent he is a more durable faster vatutin however he loses out on output and price |
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Post by kanue on Nov 20, 2020 11:45:00 GMT
Overall, I agree with stoic that this game is won with tanks so buying any decent tank generals cannot be wrong. I am quite excited about the viability of infantry generals in this title but in the end tank generals are still better. Artillery, in my opinion, is weaker in this game because of the lack of 'Fire Power' skill and there are so many units that can counter range attack so I do not think I will rely too much on the arty generals either. One very important factor is the availability. I find the the choice for Allied side is more tricky and that is probably why there is less answers for them in the poll. Patton is pretty decent but is not gonna be available any where near the beginning so he is out of the option. If you can wait, then you might be able to progress with the free Timoshenko until you can hire Patton. But if you need a good tank right away, Monty is the only option yet I am not very optimistic about two out of three of his skills. Rokossovsky is better in my opinion, if you can wait until Eastern Front 1941 that is. |
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Post by eeeeef on Nov 20, 2020 11:59:52 GMT
Overall, I agree with stoic that this game is won with tanks so buying any decent tank generals cannot be wrong. I am quite excited about the viability of infantry generals in this title but in the end tank generals are still better. Artillery, in my opinion, is weaker in this game because of the lack of 'Fire Power' skill and there are so many units that can counter range attack so I do not think I will rely too much on the arty generals either. One very important factor is the availability. I find the the choice for Allied side is more tricky and that is probably why there is less answers for them in the poll. Patton is pretty decent but is not gonna be available any where near the beginning so he is out of the option. If you can wait, then you might be able to progress with the free Timoshenko until you can hire Patton. But if you need a good tank right away, Monty is the only option yet I am not very optimistic about two out of three of his skills. Rokossovsky is better in my opinion, if you can wait until Eastern Front 1941 that is. What about vatutin? He has 4 tank stars 2 good skills and 1 meh skill and he is cheaper than patton, rokkosovsky, and montgomery |
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Post by kanue on Nov 20, 2020 15:15:48 GMT
Overall, I agree with stoic that this game is won with tanks so buying any decent tank generals cannot be wrong. I am quite excited about the viability of infantry generals in this title but in the end tank generals are still better. Artillery, in my opinion, is weaker in this game because of the lack of 'Fire Power' skill and there are so many units that can counter range attack so I do not think I will rely too much on the arty generals either. One very important factor is the availability. I find the the choice for Allied side is more tricky and that is probably why there is less answers for them in the poll. Patton is pretty decent but is not gonna be available any where near the beginning so he is out of the option. If you can wait, then you might be able to progress with the free Timoshenko until you can hire Patton. But if you need a good tank right away, Monty is the only option yet I am not very optimistic about two out of three of his skills. Rokossovsky is better in my opinion, if you can wait until Eastern Front 1941 that is. What about vatutin? He has 4 tank stars 2 good skills and 1 meh skill and he is cheaper than patton, rokkosovsky, and montgomery Vatutin is definitely decent, if you don't mind the fact that he can be a bit slow. It's a bit pity that many decent Allied generals are not available at the beginning. |
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Post by eeeeef on Nov 20, 2020 15:19:12 GMT
What about vatutin? He has 4 tank stars 2 good skills and 1 meh skill and he is cheaper than patton, rokkosovsky, and montgomery Vatutin is definitely decent, if you don't mind the fact that he can be a bit slow. It's a bit pity that many decent Allied generals are not available at the beginning. Yeah.. having their best generals(patton, macarthur) being locked behind the mid game while historical accurate really hurts the allied side of the campaign compared to the Germans who have guderian,leeb, mannerheim,etc available early really the only thing the axis lacks are navy gens |
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Post by glaucon on Nov 21, 2020 0:58:18 GMT
Another thought, you are restricted in which generals can be used in campaigns. I’m only on east front ‘41, but I’m probably not buying any Russian generals because I don’t see another campaign they can be used in.
so if you are deciding between say Monty or vatutin, I would go Monty (even though I’m iffy on his abilities) because he is usable in more spots.
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