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Post by suleiman on Jan 30, 2021 10:51:03 GMT
i will try to explain which artifacts for whom and why. Everybody has different teams and skills, but basic principles of your choises would be similar, so i ll try to explain with my team. Firstly i ll explain the basic principles of my choises;
1. Every general must have health regain items or skills as much as possible
2. Legandery sets must be used efficiently.
3. Artifact’s rage using skills must not block team skills. Active team skill heros must get passive artifacts.
4. rage regeneration as much as possible for maximum efficiency for artifacts
Legandary sets;
1. Paladin set: 2 pieces for a general for maximum efficiency. (%20 initial rage)
2. Titan set: 2 pieces for a general ( %20 rage regeneration)
3. Keel set: 2 pieces for a general ( 80 extra defence)
4. Odin set: four pieces for a general ( 2 pieces bonus is not good. 3 pieces-500 hp and 4 pieces-100 attack bonuses are really good, i suggest you to use full set with an active skill hero)
My six hero team;
1. Genghis khan: mystletainn- 3 piece of keel set ( he has health regain with mysletainn and defence with keel set, also 3th set bonus gives 5 extra movement. He has one hex attack so he need movement much more than others. if 7 or 8 hero teams needed, using two piece of set for genghis)
2. Li shimin: gungnir- purple armor- titan boots and ring ( %400 extra attack for buildings with li shimin is devastating. Also he has 3 hex attack, so 3 additional targets in 3 hex range. He has already logistics for health regain and %20 rage regeneration with set)
3. Nelson: axe of titan- shield of titan- purple boots- energy ring ( he has archer commander, he need a passive artifact. %20 rage regeneration with set, no health regain but extra ton of defences with energy ring, he have 3 hex attack so dont take so much damage. Also he has general ability gives him extra 360hp)
4. Nobunaga: thunder (ksunagi no tsurigi later)- paladin armor- purple boots- paladin ring (paladin ring gives health regain, he is mostly first attacker for debuffs so he need extra health. Two pieces of paladin gives him 600 hp and 30 hp regen, also 20 initial rage for using artifact)
5. Li hongzhang: paladin sword- golden mask- paladin boots- purple item ( he has arher commander, he needs passive artifact. Golden mask gives him health regain and paladin set for 20 initial rage)
6. Moctezuma: full odin set (extra 900 health and 280 attack is really impressive. He has cure master, he is first attacker with volley (%75 enemy cant counterattack) and curemaster with healthregain
if extra man needed;
7. Jebe: i really impressed with him. An archer who has cavalary abilities with two hex attack, also has armor expert for team and easily fulfill rage bar, he has always armor expert active! Keel sword- aegis- purple boots- keel ring
8. Jhansi, bismark, ceaser, saladin which whom needed with purple items.
i posted this thread for discussing for optimal artifact-set-item combinations. Every opinions welcomes
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Post by Iron Duke on Jan 30, 2021 11:58:48 GMT
I came to the same conclusion that Odin is the one to keep as a full set: the two item bonus isn't that great, and the third and fourth of 500 health and 100 attack are the best of all four sets.
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Post by kanue on Feb 1, 2021 10:40:22 GMT
I give 2 pcs of Titan and 2 pcs of Paladin to Nelson and Li in order to maximize the use of commander skill. However, that means a couple more general will be without any legendary items, but being able to activate double commander skill most of the time is more impactful, IMO. Not sure if the marginal effect from wearing 2 pcs of Titan and Paladin is that much greater than just 2 pcs of Titan alone, though.
Jebe is also on my main team as well. He is holding either Mystletainn or Gungnir. I don't use Armor Expert because spamming Scarlet Fresh every other turns is no joke, given that there are enough enemies to kill, that is. Jebe using Thunder could be interesting as well; being able to stun an enemy every now and then. I never tried this though.
A question: Li Shimin does not activate his Fire Dragon during the Scarlet Fresh, does he? If so, that sounds too devastated.
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Post by suleiman on Feb 1, 2021 11:33:49 GMT
I give 2 pcs of Titan and 2 pcs of Paladin to Nelson and Li in order to maximize the use of commander skill. However, that means a couple more general will be without any legendary items, but being able to activate double commander skill most of the time is more impactful, IMO. Not sure if the marginal effect from wearing 2 pcs of Titan and Paladin is that much greater than just 2 pcs of Titan alone, though. Jebe is also on my main team as well. He is holding either Mystletainn or Gungnir. I don't use Armor Expert because spamming Scarlet Fresh every other turns is no joke, given that there are enough enemies to kill, that is. Jebe using Thunder could be interesting as well; being able to stun an enemy every now and then. I never tried this though. A question: Li Shimin does not activate his Fire Dragon during the Scarlet Fresh, does he? If so, that sounds too devastated. unfortunately, during scarlet flash fire dragon is not working, but 3 other enemy in range also getting hit with scarlet flash. i saw 9000-10000 hits to the buildings with li shimin when scarlet flash active |
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Post by Nobunaga Oda on Feb 3, 2021 19:01:54 GMT
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Post by suleiman on Feb 5, 2021 8:28:19 GMT
     
The main issue I have with mine is where to assign my Titan set and the two halves of my Odin set. I'm considering half of Odin on Bismarck and the other half on either inf Commander while the Titan set will be used on Li Shimin. The main point is to boost Saladin and Li's atk and def as much as possible, especially for Saladin. This enables them to exploit Logistics to its fullest. i couldnt see your teams screenshots but as iron duke said, odin set is the one to keep as a full set. Full set bonuses are really satisfying when two item bonus isnt that great. |
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Post by suleiman on Feb 5, 2021 8:41:05 GMT
I give 2 pcs of Titan and 2 pcs of Paladin to Nelson and Li in order to maximize the use of commander skill. However, that means a couple more general will be without any legendary items, but being able to activate double commander skill most of the time is more impactful, IMO. Not sure if the marginal effect from wearing 2 pcs of Titan and Paladin is that much greater than just 2 pcs of Titan alone, though. Jebe is also on my main team as well. He is holding either Mystletainn or Gungnir. I don't use Armor Expert because spamming Scarlet Fresh every other turns is no joke, given that there are enough enemies to kill, that is. Jebe using Thunder could be interesting as well; being able to stun an enemy every now and then. I never tried this though. A question: Li Shimin does not activate his Fire Dragon during the Scarlet Fresh, does he? If so, that sounds too devastated. it is really interesting approach to use 2 paladin 2 titan items, but also means you couldnt use artifacts on them. With new updates we have lots of artifacts, i only couldnt find an afficient way to use aegis. Jebe’s armor expert(%30 damage reduction for team) is better than sacred protection (%70 for only him). Ai always choose artifact skills to use, so in legend mod automaticly using sacred protection. |
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Post by kanue on Feb 5, 2021 19:09:43 GMT
I give 2 pcs of Titan and 2 pcs of Paladin to Nelson and Li in order to maximize the use of commander skill. However, that means a couple more general will be without any legendary items, but being able to activate double commander skill most of the time is more impactful, IMO. Not sure if the marginal effect from wearing 2 pcs of Titan and Paladin is that much greater than just 2 pcs of Titan alone, though. Jebe is also on my main team as well. He is holding either Mystletainn or Gungnir. I don't use Armor Expert because spamming Scarlet Fresh every other turns is no joke, given that there are enough enemies to kill, that is. Jebe using Thunder could be interesting as well; being able to stun an enemy every now and then. I never tried this though. A question: Li Shimin does not activate his Fire Dragon during the Scarlet Fresh, does he? If so, that sounds too devastated. it is really interesting approach to use 2 paladin 2 titan items, but also means you couldnt use artifacts on them. With new updates we have lots of artifacts, i only couldnt find an afficient way to use aegis. Jebe’s armor expert(%30 damage reduction for team) is better than sacred protection (%70 for only him). Ai always choose artifact skills to use, so in legend mod automaticly using sacred protection. That is indeed a drawback... and it is kinda sad to see some artifact on the shelf. |
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Post by cardbattler on Feb 11, 2021 1:36:46 GMT
I give 2 pcs of Titan and 2 pcs of Paladin to Nelson and Li in order to maximize the use of commander skill. However, that means a couple more general will be without any legendary items, but being able to activate double commander skill most of the time is more impactful, IMO. Not sure if the marginal effect from wearing 2 pcs of Titan and Paladin is that much greater than just 2 pcs of Titan alone, though. Jebe is also on my main team as well. He is holding either Mystletainn or Gungnir. I don't use Armor Expert because spamming Scarlet Fresh every other turns is no joke, given that there are enough enemies to kill, that is. Jebe using Thunder could be interesting as well; being able to stun an enemy every now and then. I never tried this though. A question: Li Shimin does not activate his Fire Dragon during the Scarlet Fresh, does he? If so, that sounds too devastated. it is really interesting approach to use 2 paladin 2 titan items, but also means you couldnt use artifacts on them. With new updates we have lots of artifacts, i only couldnt find an afficient way to use aegis. Jebe’s armor expert(%30 damage reduction for team) is better than sacred protection (%70 for only him). Ai always choose artifact skills to use, so in legend mod automaticly using sacred protection. How about using it on artillery unit? I dont think i really need splash damage with them, and artillery are quite fragile |
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Post by suleiman on Feb 11, 2021 8:49:16 GMT
it is really interesting approach to use 2 paladin 2 titan items, but also means you couldnt use artifacts on them. With new updates we have lots of artifacts, i only couldnt find an afficient way to use aegis. Jebe’s armor expert(%30 damage reduction for team) is better than sacred protection (%70 for only him). Ai always choose artifact skills to use, so in legend mod automaticly using sacred protection. How about using it on artillery unit? I dont think i really need splash damage with them, and artillery are quite fragile U r right about artillery are quite fragile but we use artillary as building cracker, they have very large hp pool, and they attack with 3 hex range, they dont take so much retaliation. i have never problem with li shimin’s survivability. We need extra attack for artillary imo. |
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Post by stoic on Mar 26, 2021 12:23:12 GMT
yuanzhongCould you upload images of all mythological artifacts here? This thread is pinned, so that we can find them easily enough when necessary.
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Post by yuanzhong on Mar 26, 2021 12:49:21 GMT
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Post by Admiral Aleksandr Kolchak on Mar 28, 2021 0:06:27 GMT
Who did everyone give the new platinum artifacts to? I find it weird that their states are not even numbers haha
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Post by stoic on Mar 28, 2021 4:25:52 GMT
Who did everyone give the new platinum artifacts to? I find it weird that their states are not even numbers haha I think it's because of a set bonuses, when put together I believe the numbers will be quite even  |
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Post by stoic on Mar 28, 2021 4:53:08 GMT
Is Golden mask a "ring" or an "armor"? Because if it goes onto a ring's slot it is rather chronically short of hit and only is viable with two pieces of Odin's set.
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