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Post by Thortilla on Apr 26, 2021 16:54:55 GMT
without political ends just for fun vote for your favorite or the one that seems most effective
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Post by STILETT0 on Apr 26, 2021 21:11:51 GMT
without political ends just for fun vote for your favorite or the one that seems most effective Where is mah boi Pietro Badoglio???? |
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Post by Gerd von Rundstedt on Apr 27, 2021 0:14:48 GMT
Hitler had the best mind of them (Battle of France, Barbarossa), and a flair for originality, and although somewhat lacking in strategic and tactical sense, he was brilliant through the eyes of an infantryman.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 27, 2021 0:35:36 GMT
Neville Chamberlain, he saved Britain because in 1937-38, it and especially its mainland ally would have been caught off-guard.
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Post by Thortilla on Apr 27, 2021 1:58:15 GMT
I wanted to include philip petain, donitz, badoglio and other leaders but I was taking too long and in the end the votes were going to be very divided
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Post by Don Quixote de la Mancha on Apr 27, 2021 2:17:54 GMT
I mean, De Gaulle saved France from becoming an american puppet. Lead and organized the Free French,gave hope to an occupied nation.
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Post by John Marston on Apr 27, 2021 5:30:49 GMT
Hitler had the best mind of them (Battle of France, Barbarossa), and a flair for originality, and although somewhat lacking in strategic and tactical sense, he was brilliant through the eyes of an infantryman. He was a genius initially, until power corrupted his mind and he didn't challenge his own views. Taking Austria and Czechoslovakia was amazing. Conquering a major power (France) in 6 weeks I think, was brilliant. |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 27, 2021 7:01:44 GMT
Hitler had the best mind of them (Battle of France, Barbarossa), and a flair for originality, and although somewhat lacking in strategic and tactical sense, he was brilliant through the eyes of an infantryman. He was a genius initially, until power corrupted his mind and he didn't challenge his own views. Taking Austria and Czechoslovakia was amazing. Conquering a major power (France) in 6 weeks I think, was brilliant. France was defeated militarily. |
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Post by John Marston on Apr 27, 2021 7:49:15 GMT
He was a genius initially, until power corrupted his mind and he didn't challenge his own views. Taking Austria and Czechoslovakia was amazing. Conquering a major power (France) in 6 weeks I think, was brilliant. France was defeated militarily. Yes. I said conquered |
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Post by STILETT0 on Apr 27, 2021 10:14:33 GMT
France was defeated militarily. Yes. I said conquered Give Rommel, Rundstedt, Guderian, and Manstein a little credit, eh? |
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Post by Don Quixote de la Mancha on Apr 27, 2021 12:40:43 GMT
Hitler had the best mind of them (Battle of France, Barbarossa), and a flair for originality, and although somewhat lacking in strategic and tactical sense, he was brilliant through the eyes of an infantryman. He was a genius initially, until power corrupted his mind and he didn't challenge his own views. Taking Austria and Czechoslovakia was amazing. Conquering a major power (France) in 6 weeks I think, was brilliant. But that wasn't Hitler, that was his generals that he still listened to, once he started becoming a megalomanic, he lost all chance to even break even at the end of the war |
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Post by John Marston on Apr 28, 2021 5:02:20 GMT
He was a genius initially, until power corrupted his mind and he didn't challenge his own views. Taking Austria and Czechoslovakia was amazing. Conquering a major power (France) in 6 weeks I think, was brilliant. But that wasn't Hitler, that was his generals that he still listened to, once he started becoming a megalomanic, he lost all chance to even break even at the end of the war His war contribution might be less, but he broke the treaty of Versailles. He expaneded his navy, army, created his air force, conquered Rhine in the face of France, took Austria and Czechoslovakia without a shot being fired. That you is not an easy thing. |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 28, 2021 5:14:01 GMT
But that wasn't Hitler, that was his generals that he still listened to, once he started becoming a megalomanic, he lost all chance to even break even at the end of the war His war contribution might be less, but he broke the treaty of Versailles. He expaneded his navy, army, created his air force, conquered Rhine in the face of France, took Austria and Czechoslovakia without a shot being fired. That you is not an easy thing. He didn't expanded his army openly, he only disclosed it when he felt he was powerful enough politically and militarily. Demilitarising Rhineland became possible because allies were neither seeing him as a threat nor wanted a war. Britain openly supported Anschluss. Treaty of Versailles was neither broken in a day nor in any single person's leadership. |
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Post by Gerd von Rundstedt on Apr 28, 2021 13:08:38 GMT
He was a genius initially, until power corrupted his mind and he didn't challenge his own views. Taking Austria and Czechoslovakia was amazing. Conquering a major power (France) in 6 weeks I think, was brilliant. But that wasn't Hitler, that was his generals that he still listened to, once he started becoming a megalomanic, he lost all chance to even break even at the end of the war But the Manstein Plan would have never happened but for the approval of Hitler... |
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Post by STILETT0 on Apr 28, 2021 13:10:44 GMT
His war contribution might be less, but he broke the treaty of Versailles. He expaneded his navy, army, created his air force, conquered Rhine in the face of France, took Austria and Czechoslovakia without a shot being fired. That you is not an easy thing. He didn't expanded his army openly, he only disclosed it when he felt he was powerful enough politically and militarily. Demilitarising Rhineland became possible because allies were neither seeing him as a threat nor wanted a war. Britain openly supported Anschluss. Treaty of Versailles was neither broken in a day nor in any single person's leadership. that was the reason why their navy was so terrible... |
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