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Post by 曹操 on Aug 2, 2021 3:22:38 GMT
It's a hard choice for me but I think Moscow, because if Battle of Britain would have been lost I think there would have still been a chance, but if Moscow had fell it would've probably been over for the Red Army and thus the Allies. When Wilhelm Keitel was asked when did he know Operation Bagration had failed in the Nürnberg trials, he replied Moscow. If Britain falls The Most Great Navy in the World will be under German Control. And The URRS will have all The Luffwaffe against them (in irl the luffwaffe get crushed in The Channel) The Germans Would not Waste Fuel in Africa. If USA enters the war en 1941 USA navy will be Fighting against Japan And Germany At the Same Time. Britain Won't fall especially Churchill is the PM not Chamberlain. Moreover, Britain still have Northern Ireland which means Luftwaffe will have to fight the RAF again at North Ireland. At this point Luftwaffe will still be crushed at Channel but Landing units of wehrmacht managed to land at south beach of britain. The Royal Navy will all be moved to either Canada or Southeast Asia (Singapore) or Australia. At this point, ireland will probably join the war either invade north ireland and join Germany or Join Britain to defend againts german
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Post by Shrimant Peshwa Madhavrao Bhat on Aug 2, 2021 3:33:13 GMT
If Britain falls The Most Great Navy in the World will be under German Control. And The URRS will have all The Luffwaffe against them (in irl the luffwaffe get crushed in The Channel) The Germans Would not Waste Fuel in Africa. If USA enters the war en 1941 USA navy will be Fighting against Japan And Germany At the Same Time. Britain Won't fall especially Churchill is the PM not Chamberlain. Moreover, Britain still have Northern Ireland which means Luftwaffe will have to fight the RAF again at North Ireland. At this point Luftwaffe will still be crushed at Channel but Landing units of wehrmacht managed to land at south beach of britain. The Royal Navy will all be moved to either Canada or Southeast Asia (Singapore) or Australia. At this point, ireland will probably join the war either invade north ireland and join Germany or Join Britain to defend againts german If Germany gains aerial and naval superiority, Britain would most probably accept the peace deal offered by Hitler.
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Post by 曹操 on Aug 2, 2021 4:47:59 GMT
If Germany gains aerial and naval superiority, Britain would most probably accept the peace deal offered by Hitler. Well Germany will never be able to gain aerial and naval superiority their industry capability is limited for both Naval and Air units so as quoted from Churchill "We will never surrender" ofc the Brits will never surrender even if Mainland britain fall
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Post by Kliment Jefremovitš Vorošilov on Aug 2, 2021 6:28:11 GMT
But it's about what battle was the most decisive not what the axis were closest to win. Victory in battle of Britain would at least open trade between Germany and Britain, easing its resource problems. It also means no lend lease to USSR and Japan probably would not attack USA if they could buy resources from Britain. The lend lease wouldn't make that much of a difference to the USSR. Where would Japan get oil?
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Post by Kliment Jefremovitš Vorošilov on Aug 2, 2021 6:31:29 GMT
Also if Germany invades Britain, Barbarossa would have to be postponed by a year, giving the USSR more time to prepare, especially when Stalin would most likely prepare for the German invasion more seriously.
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Post by Shrimant Peshwa Madhavrao Bhat on Aug 2, 2021 6:44:19 GMT
Victory in battle of Britain would at least open trade between Germany and Britain, easing its resource problems. It also means no lend lease to USSR and Japan probably would not attack USA if they could buy resources from Britain. The lend lease wouldn't make that much of a difference to the USSR. Where would Japan get oil? Trucks from lend lease played important role in later Soviet operations.
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Post by Kliment Jefremovitš Vorošilov on Aug 2, 2021 6:46:43 GMT
The lend lease wouldn't make that much of a difference to the USSR. Where would Japan get oil? Trucks from lend lease played important role in later Soviet operations. But not a role without the Soviets couldn't have won.
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Post by Shrimant Peshwa Madhavrao Bhat on Aug 2, 2021 6:49:01 GMT
If Germany gains aerial and naval superiority, Britain would most probably accept the peace deal offered by Hitler. Well Germany will never be able to gain aerial and naval superiority their industry capability is limited for both Naval and Air units so as quoted from Churchill "We will never surrender" ofc the Brits will never surrender even if Mainland britain fall Germany has larger industrial capability than Britain, but Britain has more resources. If Germany gains aerial and naval superiority over English Channel, then Britain would sue for peace, it cannot sustain the loss of Great Britain which was its industrial centre and main source of manpower.
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Post by Shrimant Peshwa Madhavrao Bhat on Aug 2, 2021 6:49:23 GMT
Trucks from lend lease played important role in later Soviet operations. But not a role without the Soviets couldn't have won. Questionable
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Post by Shrimant Peshwa Madhavrao Bhat on Aug 2, 2021 6:50:09 GMT
Also if Germany invades Britain, Barbarossa would have to be postponed by a year, giving the USSR more time to prepare, especially when Stalin would most likely prepare for the German invasion more seriously. Why postponed?
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Post by Kliment Jefremovitš Vorošilov on Aug 2, 2021 7:04:43 GMT
Also if Germany invades Britain, Barbarossa would have to be postponed by a year, giving the USSR more time to prepare, especially when Stalin would most likely prepare for the German invasion more seriously. Why postponed? Because Germany would invade Britain.
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Post by Shrimant Peshwa Madhavrao Bhat on Aug 2, 2021 7:23:55 GMT
Because Germany would invade Britain. Germany wouldn't need to invade Britain, they would accept peace if Germany had aerial and naval superiority.
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Post by Kliment Jefremovitš Vorošilov on Aug 2, 2021 7:25:48 GMT
Because Germany would invade Britain. Germany wouldn't need to invade Britain, they would accept peace if Germany had aerial and naval superiority. Hitler offered Britain peace numerous of times, but when Churchill always declined, Hitler decided to invade Britain rather than make peace.
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Post by Shrimant Peshwa Madhavrao Bhat on Aug 2, 2021 7:37:39 GMT
Germany wouldn't need to invade Britain, they would accept peace if Germany had aerial and naval superiority. Hitler offered Britain peace numerous of times, but when Churchill always declined, Hitler decided to invade Britain rather than make peace. German aerial and naval superiority will make defeat of Britain inevitable, both Germany and Britain will prefer peace over invasion of Britain.
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Post by Kliment Jefremovitš Vorošilov on Aug 2, 2021 7:53:11 GMT
Hitler offered Britain peace numerous of times, but when Churchill always declined, Hitler decided to invade Britain rather than make peace. German aerial and naval superiority will make defeat of Britain inevitable, both Germany and Britain will prefer peace over invasion of Britain. Hitler had decided to invade Britain and so he would have done.
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