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Post by 曹操 on Aug 2, 2021 11:11:09 GMT
Well Germany will never be able to gain aerial and naval superiority their industry capability is limited for both Naval and Air units so as quoted from Churchill "We will never surrender" ofc the Brits will never surrender even if Mainland britain fall Germany has larger industrial capability than Britain, but Britain has more resources. If Germany gains aerial and naval superiority over English Channel, then Britain would sue for peace, it cannot sustain the loss of Great Britain which was its industrial centre and main source of manpower. Not really as The Australians,South africans,Canadians,and Indian will be recruited as their source of manpower. For industrial centre idk but i don't think it will affect Britain too much since they can build factory elsewhere or go to the Americans |
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Post by Shrimant Peshwa Madhavrao Bhat on Aug 2, 2021 11:33:48 GMT
German aerial and naval superiority will make defeat of Britain inevitable, both Germany and Britain will prefer peace over invasion of Britain. Hitler had decided to invade Britain and so he would have done. That statement is too naive. |
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Post by Shrimant Peshwa Madhavrao Bhat on Aug 2, 2021 11:53:14 GMT
Germany has larger industrial capability than Britain, but Britain has more resources. If Germany gains aerial and naval superiority over English Channel, then Britain would sue for peace, it cannot sustain the loss of Great Britain which was its industrial centre and main source of manpower. Not really as The Australians,South africans,Canadians,and Indian will be recruited as their source of manpower. For industrial centre idk but i don't think it will affect Britain too much since they can build factory elsewhere or go to the Americans Total population of so called "White colonies" was nearly 32 million. This includes black population of South Africa which will be somewhere between 8 to 9 million and a majority of the whites in South Africa were Boers who barely had any love for Britain, same goes for Francophones in Quebec. And those places were Dominions and were part of the British Commonwealth of Nations as equal to Britain in status, so how much they would be willing to fight for Britain after loss of British Isles (and most probably after establishment of a new British government in London which was willing to co-operate with Germany.)is unclear. As of India, do you really think it was a vast pool of manpower available for conscription? In the first world war,Britain mobilised 6 million men in the army from home islands which had population of 45 million, India provided 1.5 million soldiers of a population of over 310 million. They will have to buy those from Americans, which would be very difficult since British Empire's economy was centred around British Isles. |
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Post by Kliment Jefremovitš Vorošilov on Aug 2, 2021 12:30:46 GMT
Hitler had decided to invade Britain and so he would have done. That statement is too naive. There were no signs of Hitler amd Churchill agreeing peace. Hitler had planned and declared the invasion of Britain and Churchill was not willing to make peace. |
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Post by Shrimant Peshwa Madhavrao Bhat on Aug 2, 2021 12:32:56 GMT
That statement is too naive. There were no signs of Hitler amd Churchill agreeing peace. Hitler had planned and declared the invasion of Britain and Churchill was not willing to make peace. In that situation, Germany does not have aerial and naval superiority. |
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Post by Thortilla on Aug 2, 2021 12:32:56 GMT
Also if Germany invades Britain, Barbarossa would have to be postponed by a year, giving the USSR more time to prepare, especially when Stalin would most likely prepare for the German invasion more seriously. Haha. Stalin doing Logical Things? |
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Post by Kliment Jefremovitš Vorošilov on Aug 2, 2021 12:35:27 GMT
Also if Germany invades Britain, Barbarossa would have to be postponed by a year, giving the USSR more time to prepare, especially when Stalin would most likely prepare for the German invasion more seriously. Haha. Stalin doing Logical Things? Well, he was a bit naive about the German invasion, but if he'd seen Germany invade Britain I think he would have started to prepare his own army. |
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Post by 曹操 on Aug 2, 2021 12:35:57 GMT
Total population of so called "White colonies" was nearly 32 million. This includes black population of South Africa which will be somewhere between 8 to 9 million and a majority of the whites in South Africa were Boers who barely had any love for Britain, same goes for Francophones in Quebec. And those places were Dominions and were part of the British Commonwealth of Nations as equal to Britain in status, so how much they would be willing to fight for Britain after loss of British Isles (and most probably after establishment of a new British government in London which was willing to co-operate with Germany.)is unclear. As of India, do you really think it was a vast pool of manpower available for conscription? In the first world war,Britain mobilised 6 million men in the army from home islands which had population of 45 million, India provided 1.5 million soldiers of a population of over 310 million. They will have to buy those from Americans, which would be very difficult since British Empire's economy was centred around British Isles. I'm not sure if Canadian/Australian/New Zealanders won't fight with the British especially since Germans is their enemy also most of commonwealth states is filled with British Descendant not native anymore so some people will probably volunteer joining them. As For Indian, i'm not really sure |
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Post by Kliment Jefremovitš Vorošilov on Aug 2, 2021 12:38:03 GMT
Anyways my poll was kind of stupid since I believe there were many battles that could have won the war for the axis.
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Post by Shrimant Peshwa Madhavrao Bhat on Aug 2, 2021 12:40:55 GMT
Total population of so called "White colonies" was nearly 32 million. This includes black population of South Africa which will be somewhere between 8 to 9 million and a majority of the whites in South Africa were Boers who barely had any love for Britain, same goes for Francophones in Quebec. And those places were Dominions and were part of the British Commonwealth of Nations as equal to Britain in status, so how much they would be willing to fight for Britain after loss of British Isles (and most probably after establishment of a new British government in London which was willing to co-operate with Germany.)is unclear. As of India, do you really think it was a vast pool of manpower available for conscription? In the first world war,Britain mobilised 6 million men in the army from home islands which had population of 45 million, India provided 1.5 million soldiers of a population of over 310 million. They will have to buy those from Americans, which would be very difficult since British Empire's economy was centred around British Isles. I'm not sure if Canadian/Australian/New Zealanders won't fight with the British especially since Germans is their enemy also most of commonwealth states is filled with British Descendant not native anymore so some people will probably volunteer joining them. As For Indian, i'm not really sure They would fight for Britain, but I am sure there would be a government in London which would be willing to have peace with Germans. So it depends on the Dominions if they would support those who are willing to fight or those who are willing to have peace afterall Hitler viewed British people very highly since they were Anglo Saxons too and wanted Britain as an ally. |
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Post by Kliment Jefremovitš Vorošilov on Aug 2, 2021 12:43:46 GMT
I'm not sure if Canadian/Australian/New Zealanders won't fight with the British especially since Germans is their enemy also most of commonwealth states is filled with British Descendant not native anymore so some people will probably volunteer joining them. As For Indian, i'm not really sure They would fight for Britain, but I am sure there would be a government in London which would be willing to have peace with Germans. So it depends on colonies if they would support those who are willing to fight or those who are willing to have peace afterall Hitler viewed British people very highly since they were Anglo Saxons too and wanted Britain as an ally. That is true, Hitler rated the British high, but decided to invade after Britain declaring not to surrender. The Soviets didn't sue peace with the airforce torn apart and army in chaos, although Stalin did consider peace in the first hours of the German invasion. |
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Post by Gerd von Rundstedt on Aug 3, 2021 0:48:16 GMT
Duh, Stalingrad.
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Post by Manfred von Richthofen on Aug 3, 2021 6:09:11 GMT
Operation Overlord. It turned the tide of WW2
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Post by Kliment Jefremovitš Vorošilov on Aug 3, 2021 6:20:33 GMT
Operation Overlord. It turned the tide of WW2 The Germans had no chance of stopping the Soviet advance in the east when Overlord happened. Imo it only prevented the USSR to take control of Europe. |
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Post by Kliment Jefremovitš Vorošilov on Aug 3, 2021 6:23:28 GMT
Well, Stalingrad lost the war for the Germans, in Moscow Germany didn't necessarily lose the war yet, but it caused the failure of the Barbarossa plan and gave time for the USSR to prepare their forces. |
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