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Post by stoic on Jun 7, 2023 5:25:57 GMT
Then I don't see the difference between lvl 3 and 4. Because if our legion has a high moral, then, most likely, an enemy legion will have less moral points. And that is the precondition of lvl 3 advantage. So, lvl 4 only works against legions with the highest possible moral, which is, of course, very situational Kind of dubious bonus for such (presumably) costly upgrade. I definitely will test this, before confirming this upgrade... they invest in morale system. most talent needs to be in high morale. I have nothing against it in principle. Moreover I think it is an opportunity to complete the most difficult Treasure missions as a f2p. But I am suspicious about this upgrade in particular. Because if taken literally the difference between weapons lvl 3 and 4 is almost non-existent. Lvl 3 provides us with an additional damage against legions with lower moral. But if moral of our legion is high, it automatically means that 99% of the time we will attack legions with lower moral. So, lvl 4 upgrade doesn't make any sense. So, I still have to find out what a mysterious phrase "directly effective" does mean... |
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Post by stoic on Jun 7, 2023 20:31:37 GMT
Unfortunately "directly effective" in ET's dictionary means "crap" 😠 Probably the worst weapon upgrade. Lvl 3   Lvl 4   I hope it is a bug, and they will fix it. You don't need chain armor for this upgrade, but it doesn't change anything. There isn't any point to upgrade it... I have impression that the guy who was responsible for lvl 4 upgrade simply haven't read what lvl 3 upgrade does. |
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Post by zabadanov86 on Jun 8, 2023 4:49:24 GMT
Dont be dissapointed, varangian guard became obsolete when teuton axeman got buffed up. And btw, easiest method for farming chainmail Is Austria in 100 year war.
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Post by stoic on Jun 8, 2023 5:18:18 GMT
Dont be dissapointed, varangian guard became obsolete when teuton axeman got buffed up. And btw, easiest method for farming chainmail Is Austria in 100 year war. I just reload my Territory shop when I desperately need materials  And so far playing with Varangians is the easiest way to beat Treasure missions. With the right equipment they can withstand the first onslaught, then I increase their moral with big war Drums and then they chop chop up everything around  Fun to play no need to calculate movement or attack favorable enemies. Yeah, it's like a cheating but I have 2000 big War Drums and I am running out of content to use them |
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Post by nexttimebro on Jun 8, 2023 9:49:03 GMT
Dont be dissapointed, varangian guard became obsolete when teuton axeman got buffed up. And btw, easiest method for farming chainmail Is Austria in 100 year war. Buffed Teutons are even better than Hengdao in some cases now. |
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Post by verily on Jun 8, 2023 10:00:31 GMT
war axes is same lv weapon.
lv4 = lv3+morale in some cases.
defence infantry shield pike added counter damage.
the some lv4 weapon trait is not worth it.
the added attributes and skill is worth it.
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Post by stoic on Jun 8, 2023 10:17:40 GMT
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Post by andrei on Jun 8, 2023 11:50:43 GMT
Teutonic axeman's talent is good on paper, but "not full health" most likely means not max morale. And max morale buff is better. But yeah, anyway another good alternative for infantry.
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Post by hrabrimalitoster on Jun 8, 2023 12:29:49 GMT
Dont be dissapointed, varangian guard became obsolete when teuton axeman got buffed up. And btw, easiest method for farming chainmail Is Austria in 100 year war. I think Thuringia RoB is the best for farming Chain Armor, at least for me, that Conquest is easier and faster than the one for 100YW |
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Post by stoic on Jun 8, 2023 13:25:33 GMT
Dont be dissapointed, varangian guard became obsolete when teuton axeman got buffed up. And btw, easiest method for farming chainmail Is Austria in 100 year war. I think Thuringia RoB is the best for farming Chain Armor, at least for me, that Conquest is easier and faster than the one for 100YW I think it heavily depends on whether players can deploy only one free general or more. If only one, then kingdoms on the rim of the world (like Suebi) are a safer bet, though, perhaps, it is not the fastest way to win it. |
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Post by stoic on Jun 8, 2023 14:28:28 GMT
Teutonic axeman's talent is good on paper, but "not full health" most likely means not max morale. And max morale buff is better. But yeah, anyway another good alternative for infantry. Good point. Moreover being in not full health also means that the basic damage of a legion is somewhat reduced as well. I completed all Teutonic axemen challenges and noticed that injured axemen were far from perfect. The main force were legions with full health and close to it. Even Varangians with lvl 5 ability are not that impressive when fighting not in full health. I think the damage of a legion is reduced significantly when they lose health. |
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Post by hrabrimalitoster on Jun 8, 2023 20:28:47 GMT
I think Thuringia RoB is the best for farming Chain Armor, at least for me, that Conquest is easier and faster than the one for 100YW I think it heavily depends on whether players can deploy only one free general or more. If only one, then kingdoms on the rim of the world (like Suebi) are a safer bet, though, perhaps, it is not the fastest way to win it. Suebian Kingdom requires 16 compasses for restart rewards, that's a significant difference compared to 10 compasses. Certainly, a player who is in the Chain Armor farming phase, will not have problems crossing this Conquest, he will not choose a country that is more expensive. |
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Post by nikomachos on Jun 8, 2023 21:44:55 GMT
Its not a matter of compasses there are enough for my taste. Its about security and the earlier you can set to auto battle the better as the true measure to judge nations by concerning farming is reducing farming effort. At least Imo. And its still tedious even with lowest effort. Maybe you didnt differentiate between attila players and f2p.
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Post by stoic on Jun 9, 2023 3:10:37 GMT
In addition to this, at the start of the conquest Suebi have only one weak enemy. Thuringia has a poor economy, is overpopulated and has worse diplomatic bonuses (+2 with enemies, while Suebian kingdom has +2 with neutral countries), imo. Perhaps, it is possible to overcome these difficulties, but, as nikomachos pointed out, you don't want to "overcome" anything when you farm |
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Post by stoic on Jun 9, 2023 7:31:53 GMT
Playing with Suebi is probably the best challenge conquest suited for semi/auto run. The main goal is to reach agreement with Byzantine Empire and Expedition, with Vasco and Burgundy (pièce of cake if to play with 75 points). Usually I switch it to full auto after that.
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And so far playing with Varangians is the easiest way to beat Treasure missions. With the right equipment they can withstand the first onslaught, then I increase their moral with big war Drums and then they chop chop up everything around 
