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Post by CharlesMartel on Dec 21, 2023 16:55:15 GMT
It is called: "Just kill everything in sight"   Should be manageable though since AI generals don't have any equipment in Ovari conquest   If diplomacy becomes meaningless, then Oichi is probably no longer the best Hime. I'm thinking Garasha at 1 star or Yoshihime at 4 stars will be the best bet. |
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Post by stoic on Dec 21, 2023 17:48:15 GMT
It is called: "Just kill everything in sight" Should be manageable though since AI generals don't have any equipment in Ovari conquest If diplomacy becomes meaningless, then Oichi is probably no longer the best Hime. I'm thinking Garasha at 1 star or Yoshihime at 4 stars will be the best bet. Still pretty early to judge, imo. I noticed that far away clans don't have a hostile attitude and usually have their own problems, so there is some room for diplomacy, especially if we reduce the negative diplomatic slider (as it is usually the best option in EW7). If Oichi is some kind of substitute for Justinian- it still may work. Besides Oichi is the best Scholar we have. |
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Post by Theron of Acragas on Dec 21, 2023 18:22:44 GMT
If diplomacy becomes meaningless, then Oichi is probably no longer the best Hime. I'm thinking Garasha at 1 star or Yoshihime at 4 stars will be the best bet. Still pretty early to judge, imo. I noticed that far away clans don't have a hostile attitude and usually have their own problems, so there is some room for diplomacy, especially if we reduce the negative diplomatic slider (as it is usually the best option in EW7). If Oichi is some kind of substitute for Justinian- it still may work. Besides Oichi is the best Scholar we have. If they're far away though, Oichi doesn't help? It seems like in this situation lobbyist could actually be useful, which makes both Matsu and Garasha solid options (assuming level 4). Though I agree that Scholar makes Oichi still a good option. |
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Post by stoic on Dec 21, 2023 18:35:57 GMT
Still pretty early to judge, imo. I noticed that far away clans don't have a hostile attitude and usually have their own problems, so there is some room for diplomacy, especially if we reduce the negative diplomatic slider (as it is usually the best option in EW7). If Oichi is some kind of substitute for Justinian- it still may work. Besides Oichi is the best Scholar we have. If they're far away though, Oichi doesn't help? It seems like in this situation lobbyist could actually be useful, which makes both Matsu and Garasha solid options (assuming level 4). Though I agree that Scholar makes Oichi still a good option. There is an option there when we set up difficulty of the challenge. It says that it makes a success rate in diplomatic agreements "drastically reduced". Not sure what does this mean in practical terms, but, my guess, it will be difficult to use Lobbyists as well.  |
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Post by Monty :D on Dec 22, 2023 16:04:28 GMT
Anyone else notice general respawn being slower? I think they changed it.
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Post by balthazar on Dec 22, 2023 22:45:48 GMT
Got my first challenge in Armed Unification. Went for 60 point challenge only didnt max enemy troop lvl and tavern cost. Picked Mori as it is the easiest by default. I can say diplomacy is out of question unless you opt for max enemy level which would slow you down because we are capped right now. I have spent more than 10k coppers and food with 3-4k knowledge just to see if passage provides some diplomacy bonus with uesegi. No, after all it continued to drop until they break the passage. I had oichi and the karo of course. Run took almost 3 hours of full play where Himes become kinda useless in challenge. Garasha and Yoshihime seem to be the best options but I am not going to grind for them. Kinda disappointing though rewards in BattlePass and Achievements still suck badly. I think half of the clan challenges give only hime gifts so no way I am playing those.
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Post by Blhaze on Dec 23, 2023 4:14:04 GMT
Passed a few 60 conquest challenges now. Dont bother with diplomacy anymore. I've found towers are key. These will act as sentry, wall and defense allowing you to deal with intruders. Recruitment levels are based on your upgrades(plus conquest buffs) so I found it best to skip taverns after the first few generals. Secure boarders and push everyone(allow ai hostile to eachother to distract as needed). Towards the end you can gain vassals but 30% rate or lower is expected.
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Post by truhses on Dec 23, 2023 4:22:17 GMT
Do you need to achieve S rank to receive the challenge reward?
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Post by balthazar on Dec 23, 2023 9:47:03 GMT
Do you need to achieve S rank to receive the challenge reward? No but since you fight everyone you are most likely to get S rank anyways. |
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Post by kyokusanagi on Dec 23, 2023 14:29:50 GMT
Rewards for the whole Conquest are so lame...
So far I see no point of getting them.
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Post by Nobunaga Oda on Dec 23, 2023 15:20:38 GMT
Rewards for the whole Conquest are so lame... So far I see no point of getting them. At least ET didn't make an extra long Battlepass for Conquest with the unique equipment for a gen and perhaps the gen in question locked at high tiers, unlike Proof of Honor in EW7. Then, "fixed" the issue by creating challenge conquest, before altering the highest difficulty by adding another milestone (need to attempt again to get the reward at the higher milestone), and adding a whole new campaign difficulty featuring a specific currency that requires you to clear conquests (and attempt past ones again) to collect it. Although the rewards feel small and not notable, relative to the contents of the game, I'd say GC:S is doing better.
  Pre-Honnoji glitch: In the second conquest era, Tsutsui Junkei can spawn as a Kawachi Hatakeyama gen and usually does so when the southern city is lost by the Tsutsui. He is still the leader of the Tsutsui clan, but not sure if both versions can exist at the same time. He does spawn under the Tsutsui banner. |
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Post by stoic on Dec 23, 2023 18:23:01 GMT
There are good news and bad news. Good news are: 1. You don't have to play conquests on normal difficulty to achieve domination anymore. If you complete any given Challenge conquest with S rank it is enough to collect all achievement rewards. So, it is possible to complete conquests on normal difficulty now only fulfilling main tasks. It will save time significantly, I believe. 2. Challenge conquests are easy, at least, in Ovari. I played for Shogunate and there wasn't any moment when I have lost control over things. It is long, it's true, but results are almost guaranteed. 3. I wouldn't call rewards "lame", at least for winning as 1* clans. Rewards are rather good, in my opinion. We have 10 Magatama, 250 Ban Kin, 30 silk threads and other materials for forging legendary equipment.     Bad news are: Well, there is actually only one bad news, namely that it will take several hours of undivided attention to complete it. The solution is pretty simple: don't use save/load option and it is possible to play it whenever you can. |
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Post by Nobunaga Oda on Dec 24, 2023 3:14:55 GMT
How much difference does the option that lowers diplomatic success rates cause?
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Post by stoic on Dec 24, 2023 3:40:15 GMT
How much difference does the option that lowers diplomatic success rates cause? It is difficult to say, it probably depends on the attitude of different clans. One thing I have noted too late is that it is impossible to make an ally out of some clans no matter how hard you try. For example, success rate is non-existent when dealing with Nagao. I still believe that Oichi is the best hime though. Even if some wars are inevitable the decline of diplomatic relations is not so drastic and you have time to prepare. I was able to ally 5 clans in the end. Besides, Knowledge is still the most valuable resource. |
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Post by balthazar on Dec 24, 2023 7:23:59 GMT
Every bordering nation declares war no matter how late. And oich/karo doesnt work on distant clans so I would say diplomacy out unless you make the adjustment in setup but that would be meaningless for many clans because diplomacy is too expensive. Maybe for some clans with allies it would be viable to not max diplomacy tier to keep them as allies. For rewards I am not sure if it is stars but at least half of the clans reward only gifts beside magatama and bankin?
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