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Post by balthazar on Dec 25, 2023 20:25:56 GMT
That personality traits might be the catch indeed but I am not sure if mastering the old fashion kill them all way is the easiest 🙂
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captainstupid
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Me dumb, Me smash, Me got military rank, Me good at this.
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Post by captainstupid on Dec 26, 2023 2:20:43 GMT
 You need to conquer their cities and defeat their troops to increase your chance of allying with them. If they increase their troops it reduces your chance of allying. |
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Post by stoic on Dec 26, 2023 13:04:04 GMT
So, it is possible to make an agreement with major players after all. Relationship should be close to 180-200 though  |
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Post by Nobunaga Oda on Dec 26, 2023 13:06:20 GMT
So, it is possible to make an agreement with major players after all. Relationship should be close to 180-200 though How much did you spend and what was the final change in points per turn? Looked like one would have to shell 2.2k copper, ~5k of food or ~200 knowledge for... how many points in gifting? |
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Post by stoic on Dec 26, 2023 14:06:00 GMT
So, it is possible to make an agreement with major players after all. Relationship should be close to 180-200 though How much did you spend and what was the final change in points per turn? Looked like one would have to shell 2.2k copper, ~5k of food or ~200 knowledge for... how many points in gifting? Actually it still within boundaries of logical demands. 10 points with Nagao and Shogunate, 10-20 with majority of minor players, 5 with arrogant rulers. |
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Post by Nobunaga Oda on Dec 27, 2023 8:57:44 GMT
stoic, how did you deal with the "Outstanding" difference in prestige with the Shogunate? Overrun clans fast enough to give gifts?
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Post by stoic on Dec 27, 2023 9:44:06 GMT
stoic, how did you deal with the "Outstanding" difference in prestige with the Shogunate? Overrun clans fast enough to give gifts? Actually I am in no rush to give gifts to clans at the start. We still have plenty of surprises and I don't want to spend in vain. Besides, at some point we have enough resources to distribute without any harm to our military operations. So, I think, we have to concentrate our efforts on war at the start and only after evaluating the developing political situation we should care about diplomacy. It is still not proven though that a "total war" path is inferior. I am a believer in pacifying distant major clans as Nagao, for example. But that is because majority of my generals are still slow. |
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Post by stoic on Dec 27, 2023 13:53:14 GMT
I am a bit disappointed with Oichi, btw. Simply because "Scholar" skill doesn't work, it seems. Here is an example. Here is an amount of knowledge our castles produce per turn. We appoint Oichi as Hime and should expect +10 knowledge in addition to the amount our castles produce per turn. Right? Wrong! Nothing happens neither this turn nor a turn after that. Either it is a bug, or we have a lame translation, or I am missing something      |
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Post by truhses on Dec 27, 2023 17:40:16 GMT
I am a bit disappointed with Oichi, btw. Simply because "Scholar" skill doesn't work, it seems. Here is an example. Here is an amount of knowledge our castles produce per turn. We appoint Oichi as Hime and should expect +10 knowledge in addition to the amount our castles produce per turn. Right? Wrong! Nothing happens neither this turn nor a turn after that. Either it is a bug, or we have a lame translation, or I am missing something Oichi is working. You get bonuses on turn 3 (apparently the count goes according to the AI's turn). Moreover, the increase in tactics points is shown, but knowledge is not. |
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Post by Nobunaga Oda on Dec 27, 2023 18:26:11 GMT
 It seems that "Esteem the Strong" has a drawback: If you are weaker in terms of Prestige levels, you are looked down upon. Also, I tried to stall cland using Karo + Oichi, but my enemies keep blackmailing me until we are at war. This happens around -40 onwards. Good if you can handle it (Yamanaka clan towards the Mori; used to improve relations) and bad in Challenge. |
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Post by balthazar on Dec 27, 2023 20:34:37 GMT
It seems that "Esteem the Strong" has a drawback: If you are weaker in terms of Prestige levels, you are looked down upon. Also, I tried to stall cland using Karo + Oichi, but my enemies keep blackmailing me until we are at war. This happens around -40 onwards. Good if you can handle it (Yamanaka clan towards the Mori; used to improve relations) and bad in Challenge. Same experience here. I was able to postpone the hostilities with most of the clans only. And that diplomacy path caused enemy generals and units becoming quite strong where it required use of many rations to heal troops. With a direct war approach it was easier to push my way forward. Next time I will try to pass the agreement chance and loose the tavern challenges. I think by doing so I can fight effectively and maybe sign an alliance with far away nations later on. |
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Post by truhses on Dec 29, 2023 14:36:26 GMT
It's funny, in challenge mode, Matsudaira's vassalage becomes a big plus. Perhaps the easiest start of all the challenges I've been through.
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Post by truhses on Dec 31, 2023 6:07:31 GMT
Are there any tips for Ashikaga challenge mode?
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Post by stoic on Dec 31, 2023 6:31:01 GMT
Are there any tips for Ashikaga challenge mode? One of the easiest, actually. You have an early access to Horse Archers and Hatamoto. Even a f2p version of Hatamoto is tanky enough. And your main castle provides you with lvl 3 buildings increasing thus your income of knowledge, food and coins. My mistake (when playing it) was that my policy towards Nagao was inconsistent. At first, I thought about an Alliance with them. But when at +130 points of diplomatic relations the chance of Alliance was 0% I decided that it is impossible and began to form up a team for conquering them. It was a mistake because it is possible to make an Alliance, but you need at least +170 points to sign it. |
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Post by truhses on Dec 31, 2023 6:43:30 GMT
Are there any tips for Ashikaga challenge mode? One of the easiest, actually. You have an early access to Horse Archers and Hatamoto. Even a f2p version of Hatamoto is tanky enough. And your main castle provides you with lvl 3 buildings increasing thus your income of knowledge, food and coins. My mistake (when playing it) was that my policy towards Nagao was inconsistent. At first, I thought about an Alliance with them. But when at +130 points of diplomatic relations the chance of Alliance was 0% I decided that it is impossible and began to form up a team for conquering them. It was a mistake because it is possible to make an Alliance, but you need at least +170 points to sign it. I'm worried about the initial stage. I think the entire western part of the map will attack me. Does it make sense to bribe any of your neighbors? Where to develop the offensive? |
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