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Post by Quintus Fabius on Aug 17, 2016 20:32:22 GMT
1817:Prussia exclaims anger over the expansion of the Confederation of the Rhine and demands France to return back to Pre-Tilsit status after paying the indemnities it had faced in 1807. Napoleon wishing not to fight another war agrees to return back part of it's territory claimed from the duchy of Warsaw in 1807 yet stays firm on maintaining his brother's hold of the rhine, yet allows Prussia to claim territories in Hanover Which means that the counter-revolution has started to grow back, even if Britain suffered a huge loss... |
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Post by Washington on Aug 17, 2016 20:33:58 GMT
1816: France, After Victorious in Russia, annexes the entire of current Ukraine, except the Crimea while partitioning it to Prussia and Warsaw for their roles in the Grande Armee, Which Frederick III accepts willingly following their losses in 1806-1807
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Post by Quintus Fabius on Aug 17, 2016 20:40:07 GMT
1848: Preussen Peasants revolt. Frances sends troops and crushes them, as well as forcing Prussia to give up imost of its military powers to Rhine.
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Post by Washington on Aug 17, 2016 20:45:39 GMT
1848: Preussen Peasants revolt. Frances sends troops and crushes them, as well as forcing Prussia to give up imost of its military powers to Rhine. Prussia would rather declare war than agree to give up to the rhine |
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Post by Ivan Kolev on Aug 17, 2016 20:46:25 GMT
1848: Preussen Peasants revolt. Frances sends troops and crushes them, as well as forcing Prussia to give up imost of its military powers to Rhine. Maybe a Pan-German nationalist rebellion instead? Maybe could pave the way for a German unification movement? |
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Post by Quintus Fabius on Aug 17, 2016 20:47:21 GMT
1848: Preussen Peasants revolt. Frances sends troops and crushes them, as well as forcing Prussia to give up imost of its military powers to Rhine. Prussia would rather declare war than agree to give up to the rhine Prussian Peasant revolt->France Crushes them, offeres them this->Prussia declares war->Gets crushed->Signs it. Prussia effectively becomes a puppet state with only an actual king. |
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Post by Quintus Fabius on Aug 17, 2016 20:48:25 GMT
1848: Preussen Peasants revolt. Frances sends troops and crushes them, as well as forcing Prussia to give up imost of its military powers to Rhine. Maybe a Pan-German nationalist rebellion instead? Maybe could pave the way for a German unification movement? Perhaps later. This is in reaction to Marx's manifesto. Also, back in Americas: The Mexican Empire Unites Mesoamerica. |
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Post by Quintus Fabius on Aug 17, 2016 20:50:06 GMT
Here's a nice idea, what if we make our own alternate history story as a community? I.e, everyone pitches in to include a possible plot line in the story? Ill give the background info first: 1812: The French don't invade Russia and instead aim towards securing their position in Iberia. It takes another year for the region to be pacified and for puppet governments in Spain and Portugal to be established. 1814: France invades Russia, this time somehow defeating them. Russia agrees to the cession of more Polish lands to Poland, to embargo the United Kingdom, and to become neutral. Now the French aim on starving out the British. By 1816, the British decide its time to end the war by signing a peace treaty. Meanwhile, Revolutions are occurring throughout the Western Hemisphere, with Haiti and America already having gained de facto independence. Now its time for community feedback. Im not asking how to change the backstory, I'm asking what would come next? I think this would be an interesting little experiment. 1816: ( Quintus Fabius )-France forces Britain to cede Canada (Except for Quebec and Newfoundland) to the USA to basically eliminate all major British influence in the Americas and because the Americans had been fighting for control of the region since 1812. 1816: ( Washington )-France makes an agreement with Russia where the Ukraine is annexed into France, with some other territories also being ceded to Prussia and Poland. 1816-1825: ( The Light Bringer )-France does not intervene in any of the Independence Wars. As a result, the former Spanish and Portuguese colonies in the Americas gain independence as their armies were previously crushed by Napoleon's forces. 1817: ( Washington ) Prussia is in a rage following the expansion of the Confederation of the Rhine and demands France returns to pre-Tilsit status.. Napoleon agrees to cede some Rhine regions to Prussia, but refuses to disband it. 1830: ( Quintus Fabius )-Irish and Scottish Revolts in Great Britain backed by the French. Irish rebels secure all of Ireland as well as puppet state of Wales, France creates the Kingdom of Essex as a puppet state which controls Southeast England as well as London, while Scotland take the rest. The British government flees to Sydney, Australia, where it is renamed 'New London'. The Empire remains intact. Scotland and Ireland are French puppets similar to the Polish puppet state. France gives Essex Newfoundland and takes Quebec for themselves after invading it. 1840: ( Quintus Fabius )-Karl Marx goes into exile in America due to the Bonaparte's seeing him as a threat. He publishes his communist manifesto in his New York apartment in 1848. The Americans kick him out due to inciting riots and he spends the rest of his life in Newfoundland. 1848: ( Quintus Fabius )-Pan-German Nationalists rebel in Prussia, French troops crush them. They are not only Nationalists; imagine 3 different rebel types all revolting in EU4, except there was no infighting. Pay attention to the Communists, they will rise, but not in a place you'd expect  |
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Post by Quintus Fabius on Aug 17, 2016 20:56:57 GMT
c. 1840: Britain recovers its manpower, rebuilds its navy, successfully trades with Qing and thus avoid an Opium War. It can now compete with France.
the East India Company now controls many parts of India, but states such as Maratha and Punjab are growing larger...
Oregon and Washington is given to the US.
c. 1845: Texas Succedes from Mexico. France and USA back Texas, UK backs Mexico.
Texas Successfully Succedes, but does not join US as result of British Pressuring.
Texas is basically all the ex-Mexican States here: Texas, Oklahoma, Cali, NM, Arizona, Utah, and Western Colorado.
As Mexico later unites C. America, it does not care for now, but some hatred towards the US and France remains...
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Post by Deleted on Aug 17, 2016 21:00:53 GMT
1843
Nationalist movements starts in Baltic and St. Petersburg
1850
Nationalist movements gains an idea of USA like country(federation)
1862
United States of Baltic are made with 4 States (Lithuania, Estonia, Latvia and Ingermland)
1866 after long debates Napoleon has no other choice as to make De jure USB as Sweden and Finland supports this country and France still remembers cold winters in northern Europe and doesn't want to risk of losing huge number in winter as they can't win in one summer.
1872
USB becomes one of the biggest economies as everybody uses their banking systems (like switz nowadays)
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Post by Deleted on Aug 17, 2016 21:04:13 GMT
1843 Nationalist movements starts in Baltic and St. Petersburg 1850 Nationalist movements gains an idea of USA like country(federation) 1862 United States of Baltic are made with 4 States (Lithuania, Estonia, Latvia and Ingermland) 1866 after long debates Napoleon has no other choice as to make De jure USB as Sweden and Finland supports this country and France still remembers cold winters in northern Europe and doesn't want to risk of losing huge number in winter as they can't win in one summer. 1872 USB becomes one of the biggest economies as everybody uses their banking systems (like switz nowadays) 1884 USB buys lands in Africa and Asia from both France and union jack |
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Post by Quintus Fabius on Aug 17, 2016 21:05:33 GMT
1843 Nationalist movements starts in Baltic and St. Petersburg 1850 Nationalist movements gains an idea of USA like country(federation) 1862 United States of Baltic are made with 4 States (Lithuania, Estonia, Latvia and Ingermland) 1866 after long debates Napoleon has no other choice as to make De jure USB as Sweden and Finland supports this country and France still remembers cold winters in northern Europe and doesn't want to risk of losing huge number in winter as they can't win in one summer. 1872 USB becomes one of the biggest economies as everybody uses their banking systems (like switz nowadays) 1884 USB buys lands in Africa and Asia from both France and union jack In the form of the Baltic East Indian COmpany, they buy the Area around Bombay, and are the First ones to Force Japan into contact with the outside world. |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 17, 2016 21:11:17 GMT
1884 USB buys lands in Africa and Asia from both France and union jack In the form of the Baltic East Indian COmpany, they buy the Area around Bombay, and are the First ones to Force Japan into contact with the outside world. After getting Japan in contact, they makes the new way of silk and amber(sending back to Asia) thru all of the north lands (Siberia) |
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Post by Quintus Fabius on Aug 17, 2016 21:13:24 GMT
1855: Eire becomes an completely independent State, annexing Wales and practising Splendid Isolation, suggested by a certain Henry Temple, a grand strategist.
1861: A house Divided: the American Civil war starts.
France sees USA as an threat and decides to end it.
Below is a list of who provided economic support to whom:
USA(All Union States IRL minus Colorado, Kansas and the Union-slave states IRL and add the annexed Canadian ones): UK, Russia, Eire, Dutch-government-in-exile, Texas
CSA: France, Mexico, Essex, all French Puppet-states, Qing
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Post by Quintus Fabius on Aug 17, 2016 21:14:06 GMT
In the form of the Baltic East Indian COmpany, they buy the Area around Bombay, and are the First ones to Force Japan into contact with the outside world. After getting Japan in contact, they makes the new way of silk and amber(sending back to Asia) thru all of the north lands (Siberia) As Russia becomes more modernised, the USB sponsored a trans-Siberian Railroad. Qing becomes a strong power in place of Japan, thanks to earlier talks between Qing and Britain. However, revolts destabilised it around 1890 and it became a republic. |
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