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Post by Ivan Kolev on Aug 17, 2016 21:15:13 GMT
Ill add in my thoughts and add your ideas in a little bit, for now I'm going to dinner.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 17, 2016 21:17:19 GMT
1855: Eire becomes an completely independent State, annexing Wales and practising Splendid Isolation, suggested by a certain Henry Temple, a grand strategist. 1861: A house Divided: the American Civil war starts. France sees USA as an threat and decides to end it. Below is a list of who provided economic support to whom: USA(All Union States IRL minus Colorado, Kansas and the Union-slave states IRL and add the annexed Canadian ones): UK, Russia, Eire, Dutch-government-in-exile, Texas CSA: France, Mexico, Essex, all French Puppet-states, Qing USB and Scandinavia stays neutral, to see who is winning. |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 17, 2016 21:22:54 GMT
After getting Japan in contact, they makes the new way of silk and amber(sending back to Asia) thru all of the north lands (Siberia) As Russia becomes more modernised, the USB sponsored a trans-Siberian Railroad. "Rocket" engine is developed in USB by 1886, making steam engine powered trains, later by 1890 trans Siberian railway is made, making it the new way from west to east. 1900 USB is richer than Union jack and France combined, making it the new center of all the research and money. |
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Post by Quintus Fabius on Aug 17, 2016 21:24:32 GMT
1855: Eire becomes an completely independent State, annexing Wales and practising Splendid Isolation, suggested by a certain Henry Temple, a grand strategist. 1861: A house Divided: the American Civil war starts. France sees USA as an threat and decides to end it. Below is a list of who provided economic support to whom: USA(All Union States IRL minus Colorado, Kansas and the Union-slave states IRL and add the annexed Canadian ones): UK, Russia, Eire, Dutch-government-in-exile, Texas CSA: France, Mexico, Essex, all French Puppet-states, Qing USB and Scandinavia stays neutral, to see who is winning. The war ends with the USA winning thanks to Amphibious landings from Britain in Washington DC, and the Taiping rebellion in Qing, which forced it to stop supporting the CSA. The most famous part of the war was when Robert. E. Lee, a defected CSA General, broke through the enemy lines in the Battle of Atlanta (the Confederate Capital), out-manuvered the enemy, captured the City, and forced President Alexander Stephens to surrender. |
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Post by Quintus Fabius on Aug 17, 2016 21:26:35 GMT
As Russia becomes more modernised, the USB sponsored a trans-Siberian Railroad. "Rocket" engine is developed in USB by 1886, making steam engine powered trains, later by 1890 trans Siberian railway is made, making it the new way from west to east. 1900 USB is richer than Union jack and France combined, making it the new center of all the research and money. In the Old World. Ranking of Economy in 1900, of nations we know: 1. USA 2. USB 3. UK 4. France 5. Rhine 6. Texas 7. Qing 8. Eire/Prussia 10. Mexico/Punjab I will update this if new natons are made in this thread. |
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Post by Quintus Fabius on Aug 18, 2016 0:02:57 GMT
Ehh... A Ottoman-French war should also happen, no, Ivan Kolev ? |
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Post by Ivan Kolev on Aug 18, 2016 0:08:02 GMT
Ehh... A Ottoman-French war should also happen, no, Ivan Kolev ? Agreed Im a bit clustered with all the stuff you guys just did lol. Could one of you two please give a condensed explanation of all the stuff you guys said following the Whole Baltic Union thing? |
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Post by Quintus Fabius on Aug 18, 2016 0:23:08 GMT
Ehh... A Ottoman-French war should also happen, no, Ivan Kolev ? Agreed Im a bit clustered with all the stuff you guys just did lol. Could one of you two please give a condensed explanation of all the stuff you guys said following the Whole Baltic Union thing? So... UK recovers and avoids Opium War with China, which makes it believe it should modernise. Texas went independent, but UK stopped US from anexxing it. Civil war starts, Atlanta was Confed Capital, Lee defects and captures Atlanta, VP and President of CSA IRL was reversed. Baltics fund siberian railroad and become one of the richest and stronkest (I don't know how), overtaking france. USA still stronk though. Qing replaces Japan here as the modenising superpower. UK never got Britannia back, and rules on Australia. Ireland somehow becomes independent from france and isolates itself like UK IRL. We stopped around the latter half of the 1800's. |
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Post by Ivan Kolev on Aug 18, 2016 0:28:48 GMT
Agreed Im a bit clustered with all the stuff you guys just did lol. Could one of you two please give a condensed explanation of all the stuff you guys said following the Whole Baltic Union thing? So... UK recovers and avoids Opium War with China, which makes it believe it should modernise. Texas went independent, but UK stopped US from anexxing it. Civil war starts, Atlanta was Confed Capital, Lee defects and captures Atlanta, VP and President of CSA IRL was reversed. Baltics fund siberian railroad and become one of the richest and stronkest (I don't know how), overtaking france. USA still stronk though. Qing replaces Japan here as the modenising superpower. UK never got Britannia back, and rules on Australia. Ireland somehow becomes independent from france and isolates itself like UK IRL. We stopped around the latter half of the 1800's. About the Baltics...I believe that is even a bit much for alternate history... |
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Post by Quintus Fabius on Aug 18, 2016 0:35:52 GMT
So... UK recovers and avoids Opium War with China, which makes it believe it should modernise. Texas went independent, but UK stopped US from anexxing it. Civil war starts, Atlanta was Confed Capital, Lee defects and captures Atlanta, VP and President of CSA IRL was reversed. Baltics fund siberian railroad and become one of the richest and stronkest (I don't know how), overtaking france. USA still stronk though. Qing replaces Japan here as the modenising superpower. UK never got Britannia back, and rules on Australia. Ireland somehow becomes independent from france and isolates itself like UK IRL. We stopped around the latter half of the 1800's. About the Baltics...I believe that is even a bit much for alternate history... Perhaps get The Light Bringer to tone it down a bit, as my original plan was to make Baltics anschlussed by Sweden... |
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Post by Ivan Kolev on Aug 18, 2016 0:37:10 GMT
About the Baltics...I believe that is even a bit much for alternate history... Perhaps get The Light Bringer to tone it down a bit, as my original plan was to make Baltics anschlussed by Sweden... Actually, maybe a Scandinavian Unification could occur where Denmark (Former French Ally) is able to unify Scandinavia by diplomatically annexing Svenska (Which includes Finland) around the 1860's and then goes onto to conquer the Baltics. |
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Post by Quintus Fabius on Aug 18, 2016 1:00:16 GMT
Perhaps get The Light Bringer to tone it down a bit, as my original plan was to make Baltics anschlussed by Sweden... Actually, maybe a Scandinavian Unification could occur where Denmark (Former French Ally) is able to unify Scandinavia by diplomatically annexing Svenska (Which includes Finland) around the 1860's and then goes onto to conquer the Baltics. Ask The Light Bringer, as we can reach a compromise on his uber-baltic and scadinavia... Perhaps Denmark unites Scandnavia, Baltics become an independent nation but forced to be neutral buffer state, and that it slowly became a Low-country-type of nation (rich, usually-get-invaded-when-a-war-is-on-buffer). |
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Post by Quintus Fabius on Aug 18, 2016 1:10:48 GMT
1848: In the aftermath of the rebellion and before the French invasion of Prussia, a certain disgruntled Otto von Bismark, a ex-prussian Noble, offers to serve the King of Bavaria. He was dismissed as a spy, and the King of Bavaria did not see him... for some time.
Remember his name as well in this althis!
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Post by Quintus Fabius on Aug 18, 2016 1:59:44 GMT
Here's a nice idea, what if we make our own alternate history story as a community? I.e, everyone pitches in to include a possible plot line in the story? Ill give the background info first: 1812: The French don't invade Russia and instead aim towards securing their position in Iberia. It takes another year for the region to be pacified and for puppet governments in Spain and Portugal to be established. 1814: France invades Russia, this time somehow defeating them. Russia agrees to the cession of more Polish lands to Poland, to embargo the United Kingdom, and to become neutral. Now the French aim on starving out the British. By 1816, the British decide its time to end the war by signing a peace treaty. Meanwhile, Revolutions are occurring throughout the Western Hemisphere, with Haiti and America already having gained de facto independence. Now its time for community feedback. Im not asking how to change the backstory, I'm asking what would come next? I think this would be an interesting little experiment. 1816: ( Quintus Fabius )-France forces Britain to cede Canada (Except for Quebec and Newfoundland) to the USA to basically eliminate all major British influence in the Americas and because the Americans had been fighting for control of the region since 1812. 1816: ( Washington )-France makes an agreement with Russia where the Ukraine is annexed into France, with some other territories also being ceded to Prussia and Poland. 1816-1825: ( The Light Bringer )-France does not intervene in any of the Independence Wars. As a result, the former Spanish and Portuguese colonies in the Americas gain independence as their armies were previously crushed by Napoleon's forces. 1817: ( Washington ) Prussia is in a rage following the expansion of the Confederation of the Rhine and demands France returns to pre-Tilsit status.. Napoleon agrees to cede some Rhine regions to Prussia, but refuses to disband it. 1830: ( Quintus Fabius )-Irish and Scottish Revolts in Great Britain backed by the French. Irish rebels secure all of Ireland as well as puppet state of Wales, France creates the Kingdom of Essex as a puppet state which controls Southeast England as well as London, while Scotland take the rest. The British government flees to Sydney, Australia, where it is renamed 'New London'. The Empire remains intact. Scotland and Ireland are French puppets similar to the Polish puppet state. France gives Essex Newfoundland and takes Quebec for themselves after invading it. 1840: ( Quintus Fabius )-Karl Marx goes into exile in America due to the Bonaparte's seeing him as a threat. He publishes his communist manifesto in his New York apartment in 1848. The Americans kick him out due to inciting riots and he spends the rest of his life in Newfoundland. 1848: ( Quintus Fabius )-German peasants rebel in Prussia, French troops crush them. France then demands the Prussians give all military power to the Rhine. Prussia refuses. France invades and enforces their demands. Otto von Bismarck, an ex-Prussian noble, vies to be the King of Bavaria. The Bavarians dismiss him as a spy. 1850: ( Quintus Fabius )-The Mexican Empire invades FRCA and takes control of Guatemala, Honduras, El Salvador, Nicaragua and Costa Rica. Support, not be the king. Bismark wanted out of Prussia, as he believed that Rhine had better potential. |
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Post by Napoleon Bonaparte on Aug 18, 2016 5:47:07 GMT
I guess im late?
D'oh!
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