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Post by Imperial RomeBall on Apr 9, 2017 16:49:18 GMT
Y'all need to chill! X ain't holy Y should leave I don't think would help anything. Just stay south of the border and nothing bad will happen. *cocks pistol and puts on mountie uniform*
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Post by Von Bismarck jr on Apr 9, 2017 16:53:36 GMT
Y'all need to chill! X ain't holy Y should leave I don't think would help anything. Just stay south of the border and nothing bad will happen. *cocks pistol and puts on mountie uniform* *whole south cocks their pistols, rifles, and shotguns*
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Post by Imperial RomeBall on Apr 9, 2017 16:56:43 GMT
Just stay south of the border and nothing bad will happen. *cocks pistol and puts on mountie uniform* *whole south cocks their pistols, rifles, and shotguns* *grabs grenade and sets up old machine gun* whoa boy, use those on the yankees!
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Post by Ivan Kolev on Apr 9, 2017 17:13:49 GMT
Von Bismarck jr , 1. Never implied the Northeast was holy...there are people who legitimately hate the South and want them to leave. Same can be said for some in the South who want to leave. 2. Very misinformed statement about Lincoln. Lincoln was against the EXPANSION of slavery, not the institution itself. While morally he may have been against it, especially later on in the war, when he was initially elected he made it abundantly clear that he would not go after slavery where slavery was already present (I.e, the South). But the South was so paranoid about slavery especially after John Brown's raid on Harper's Ferry that they decided that the most rational decision would be to leave the very country they helped to establish. And in doing so they started the greatest war which ever came to be on this side of the Atlantic, a war which killed 600,000 people or 2% of the American population. And I'm not hating on the South in saying this, many Southerners, namely Sam Houston, David Farragut, the people in the border states of Kentucky and Missouri, the brave delegates from Virginia who refused to leave this great country and thus broke off to rejoin the U.S, and all the U.S supporters in the Southern states such as in the states of North Carolina and Tennessee who fought to preserve this great union. Nor am I hating on any Confederate soldiers who fought for reasons other than slavery. But I am hating on all those who started the Civil War namely Jefferson Davis and other Southern politicians of the time. 3. Fair point that most Southerners dont refer to themselves as Yankees, but that's what many outside the U.S will call any American regardless of their region. And an edit: I am personally Irish and I'll still refer to myself as a Yankee as since many foreigners consider it an insult to us Americans, it is better to own an insult rather than be offended by one. Also, 'Yankee Doodle'
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Post by Desophaeus on Apr 10, 2017 19:16:05 GMT
Im sorry to ask, but are you from the United States? Since that is a blatant mistruth. It is definitely not a coincidence that the states which seceded A: All had slaves B: All the states which seceded made the most off slavery and had the most slaves C: All seceded after Abraham Lincoln took power in Washington D.C who vowed not to allow slavery to expand west, which scared the Southern secessionists as they feared soon Lincoln would abolish the institution EDIT: Wait a second, you're Bismarck II, my b. A. All had slaves, yes. B.True C.True Self-Added D: Can you really blame the south, though? The southern economy was entirely based on Slavery. Some states wouldn't have been opposed to gradually removing it, but Lincoln wanted to pull the rug out from under them and destroy their economies. Look at the south after the war, life was hell, hardly anyone was employed. Morally and ethically wrong, like I said, totally. But would you want the whole infrastructure of your state to fall apart like that? *cough* Reconstruction Era *cough* Ungrateful Southerners *cough* We rebuilt the whole infrastructure for you after the war anyway. True fact: Almost everything that reflects on "Southern culture" in physical evidence was actually built by the North's sweat and paid for by the North's money. I bet you five dollars that your local old courthouse with stone columns and everything... it was built and paid for by the North in the years after the Civil War. Almost every instance of old-timey were almost completely gone either because of the war itself, the aftermath, or the Great Depression killing off the remainders. Most of it is either a modern recreation of the Antebellum era as a publicly funded museum or if they're still functional landmark buildings used by the local populace, it's usually dated back to that reconstruction era most of the time. Not many buildings were still left standing.
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Post by Desophaeus on Apr 10, 2017 19:19:52 GMT
As for the Yankees, either it's specifically for the Northeast OR it's all of the Americans.
Only a redneck thinks that there's a "North" at this point. Of course, we split up into different regions: Northeast, Midwest, West (or can be further split into Pacific coast, Rockies, Great Plains) while the Southeast still calls itself 'South'. This whole North Vs South thing died over 100 years ago, except for the myth of the "North". If Ohio is "North", New York is "North", Montana is "North", Utah is "North" (what the heck, Utah?!?)... By that logic... I would say New Mexico is "South".
"But it aint no Suth, yer stinkin Yank!" Sure it is. If you want to call Ohio "North" instead of its proper category "Midwest", then I'm sticking with New Mexico belonging to the Southeast *ahem* Sorry... South. Sound fair to apply the logic on the both sides of the fence?
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Post by Bismarck Jr on Apr 10, 2017 20:23:31 GMT
*whole south cocks their pistols, rifles, and shotguns* *grabs grenade and sets up old machine gun* whoa boy, use those on the yankees! *Panzers at the ready* Take this conflict into Europe and the whole continent will be after you like a slav to mayonnaise
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Post by Von Bismarck jr on Apr 10, 2017 21:12:59 GMT
*grabs grenade and sets up old machine gun* whoa boy, use those on the yankees! *Panzers at the ready* Take this conflict into Europe and the whole continent will be after you like a slav to mayonnaise It's pronounced "Mayonez"
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Apr 11, 2017 6:13:49 GMT
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Post by Desophaeus on Apr 11, 2017 6:13:49 GMT
*Panzers at the ready* Take this conflict into Europe and the whole continent will be after you like a slav to mayonnaise It's pronounced "Mayonez" Only when you use it on a "sammwish", butcher the English words properly when you must somehow mangle it beyond official recognition in the eyes of Greater Untied States of America (as in including the territories, and the informal colonization "strategic entry into diverse economies" of the world).
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Post by Frederick the Great on Apr 11, 2017 6:24:45 GMT
I called an American on the internet a Yankee once and he told me "I ain't no Yankee, I'm a Texan".
I'm just trying to add to the conversation. Your all American to me, none of this north or south stuff.
I find it interesting that two of the biggest states (California and Texas) that are probably also the most well known American states were actually Mexican but annexed by the US in a war.
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Post by Desophaeus on Apr 11, 2017 6:30:14 GMT
I called an American on the internet a Yankee once and he told me "I ain't no Yankee, I'm a Texan". I'm just trying to add to the conversation. Your all American to me, none of this north or south stuff. I find it interesting that two of the biggest states (California and Texas) that are probably also the most well known American states were actually Mexican but annexed by the US in a war. Two separate wars actually, the Texan-Mexican war happened before the American-Mexican War.
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Post by Frederick the Great on Apr 11, 2017 6:34:04 GMT
I called an American on the internet a Yankee once and he told me "I ain't no Yankee, I'm a Texan". I'm just trying to add to the conversation. Your all American to me, none of this north or south stuff. I find it interesting that two of the biggest states (California and Texas) that are probably also the most well known American states were actually Mexican but annexed by the US in a war. Two separate wars actually, the Texan-Mexican war happened before the American-Mexican War. Ah, yes of course. How could I forget? The answer, I know very little about American history, however I probably know significantly more than 99% of Australians.
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Post by Ivan Kolev on Apr 11, 2017 10:44:21 GMT
I called an American on the internet a Yankee once and he told me "I ain't no Yankee, I'm a Texan". I'm just trying to add to the conversation. Your all American to me, none of this north or south stuff. I find it interesting that two of the biggest states (California and Texas) that are probably also the most well known American states were actually Mexican but annexed by the US in a war. Texans have an independent streak on them since they were actually independent from 1836 to 1846 (From when the Texans under Sam Houston defeated the Mexicans under Antonio Lopez de Santa Anna at the Battle of San Jacinto to the Annexation of Texas in 1846). Actually, something that's very interesting is that Sam Houston, the leader of the Texans, became president of Texas as well as the Governor of Texas once it joined the U.S, making him the only U.S state governor to also be a Head of State. He also opposed secession and had to be physically overthrown by the Texans by refusing to join the CSA. What's more interesting to me about California and Texas is that they used to be severely underpopulated when we first took over those states, and then they both grew to be the two most populous due to gold and oil, respectively.
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Post by Frederick the Great on Apr 11, 2017 10:48:12 GMT
I called an American on the internet a Yankee once and he told me "I ain't no Yankee, I'm a Texan". I'm just trying to add to the conversation. Your all American to me, none of this north or south stuff. I find it interesting that two of the biggest states (California and Texas) that are probably also the most well known American states were actually Mexican but annexed by the US in a war. Texans have an independent streak on them since they were actually independent from 1836 to 1846 (From when the Texans under Sam Houston defeated the Mexicans under Antonio Lopez de Santa Anna at the Battle of San Jacinto to the Annexation of Texas in 1846). Actually, something that's very interesting is that Sam Houston, the leader of the Texans, became president of Texas as well as the Governor of Texas once it joined the U.S, making him the only U.S state governor to also be a Head of State. He also opposed secession and had to be physically overthrown by the Texans by refusing to join the CSA. What's more interesting to me about California and Texas is that they used to be severely underpopulated when we first took over those states, and then they both grew to be the two most populous due to gold and oil, respectively. I know, I know. I was just pointing out that some of the now biggest and most important states were annexed off of another state.
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Post by Desophaeus on Apr 11, 2017 14:19:31 GMT
Texans have an independent streak on them since they were actually independent from 1836 to 1846 (From when the Texans under Sam Houston defeated the Mexicans under Antonio Lopez de Santa Anna at the Battle of San Jacinto to the Annexation of Texas in 1846). Actually, something that's very interesting is that Sam Houston, the leader of the Texans, became president of Texas as well as the Governor of Texas once it joined the U.S, making him the only U.S state governor to also be a Head of State. He also opposed secession and had to be physically overthrown by the Texans by refusing to join the CSA. What's more interesting to me about California and Texas is that they used to be severely underpopulated when we first took over those states, and then they both grew to be the two most populous due to gold and oil, respectively. I know, I know. I was just pointing out that some of the now biggest and most important states were annexed off of another state. We have tons of other states annexed off of Canada British colonies such as the Northwest Territory (modern-day Midwest) or even the 13 states themselves... we simply annexed ourselves from the Brits when we got bored with the bad kings. Quintus Fabius & Imperial RomeBall triggered!
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