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Post by Saltin on Oct 20, 2017 9:33:09 GMT
Oops,sorry stoic as I was replying to your post I somehow end up merging it with my own and it got nuked in the process. RIP Stoic Post  Bad Admin    Here is the defunct post
Stoic said: I think that WC4 board has only one rightful heir to the throne right now  . It is soonerjbd . No one else has a team or technology strong enough to demonstrate record breaking numbers. Maybe in several months time there will be other claimants...
I agree stoic , Soonerjbd got WC4 knowledge and a good general team.It looks like he might be grabbing the next elite spot in that group but then again.. it might be you who will break records or someone else, maybe even a new member that hasn't even registered in EFC yet , you never know where the next star is coming from  Aside from that you brought up an interesting point, one that I haven't thought of till now: what to do if a player is awarded the group status then someone else has a faster time for the same conquest? Logically we just kick the former out but it is kinda hash maybe we'll come up with some kind of a consolation prize like "Formally known as World Conqueror Speed Master" ..or something along these lines |
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Post by stoic on Oct 20, 2017 9:46:27 GMT
Oops,sorry stoic as I was replying to your post I somehow end up merging it with my own and it got nuked in the process. RIP Stoic Post Bad Admin Here is the defunct post
Stoic said: I think that WC4 board has only one rightful heir to the throne right now . It is soonerjbd . No one else has a team or technology strong enough to demonstrate record breaking numbers. Maybe in several months time there will be other claimants...
I agree stoic , Soonerjbd got WC4 knowledge, a good general team look like he might be grabbing the next elite spot in that group but then again.. it might be you who will break records or someone else, maybe even a new member that hasn't even registered in EFC yet , you never know where the next star is coming from Aside from that you brought up an interesting point, one that I haven't thought of till now: what to do if a player is awarded the group status then someone else has a faster time for the same conquest? Logically we just kick the former out but it is kinda hash maybe we'll come up with some kind of a consolation prize like "Formally known as World Conqueror Speed Master" ..or something along these lines Never mind... Imo "Ex-world fastest conqueror" sounds more grandly than "Formally known as World Conqueror Speed Master" |
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Post by Saltin on Oct 20, 2017 9:56:44 GMT
On your other comment: I don't have any info on current WC4 records but note that our group showcase the international EFC members only, we do not compete with other communities. All records are from our own members competing against each other but certainly as the game matures and other communities like the Russian or Chinese establish new records we can use that info as a benchmarks or guidelines to evaluate our own records and set appropriate standards.
On the "Formally known as.." yeah I know maybe then just kick them out of the group with a nice pm that somehow translates into "You are no longer worthy, someone faster and better has just replaced you ! "
Lol No we won't go that route I don't think, we'll just have to come up with something more diplomatic.
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Post by Max Otto von Stierlitz on Oct 20, 2017 17:17:46 GMT
In fact regarding WC3, sure, ion canon is important, but not so critical. 14 turns USSR 39 is possible even without ion and proper ECs. Some 20 turns have to be possible even with academy gens only. What about WC4 records, if they will be counted according to european-war-4.boards.net/thread/7072/wc4-world-records fastest conquest without gens can be done without long medals collecting. |
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Post by soonerjbd on Oct 20, 2017 18:49:57 GMT
In fact regarding WC3, sure, ion canon is important, but not so critical. 14 turns USSR 39 is possible even without ion and proper ECs. Some 20 turns have to be possible even with academy gens only. What about WC4 records, if they will be counted according to european-war-4.boards.net/thread/7072/wc4-world-records fastest conquest without gens can be done without long medals collecting. Technology makes a big difference on the no generals conquests, particularly since they put 100 percent Assault and the higher percentage artillery nullifications to retaliation towards the end of the tech trees. Takes a long time to farm the resources. |
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Post by soonerjbd on Oct 20, 2017 20:39:24 GMT
Small quibble I bring up as a writer... is “World Fastest Conqueror” grammatically correct? Would “World’s Fastest Conqueror” sound better?
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Post by Saltin on Oct 20, 2017 23:59:36 GMT
Small quibble I bring up as a writer... is “World Fastest Conqueror” grammatically correct? Would “World’s Fastest Conqueror” sound better? It does and I could change it if people want to but visually the apostrophe doesn't quiet fit imo.This is a specific EFC tittle (a name of sort) and although it might not technically be correct we might still apply the same rule (or lack of rule really) that applies to places and names. You can read about this Here: King's Cross, London is a proper noun, as is Kings Cross, Sydney. The presence or absence of the apostrophe is neither correct nor incorrect. Both are simply names. Harrods was originally Harrod's, but the apostrophe was dropped from the name. This doesn't really matter as it's just a trade name (although some sticklers disagree). Now if the words weren't part of a proper noun, then there would be rules. A king's cross would be a cross belonging to a king. A kings' cross would be a cross belonging to kings. A kings cross would be a cross composed of kings. Anyways I don't want to derail this group thread conversation into a semantics debate.This is an international gaming forum we haven't dwelled much into formal literature works just yet We can change the name if members want to, no big deal just open a new thread and add a poll if you want. |
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Post by soonerjbd on Oct 21, 2017 0:05:03 GMT
Small quibble I bring up as a writer... is “World Fastest Conqueror” grammatically correct? Would “World’s Fastest Conqueror” sound better? It does and I could change it if people want to but visually the apostrophe doesn't quiet fit imo.This is a specific EFC tittle (a name of sort) and although it might not technically be correct we might still apply the same rule (or lack of rule really) that applies to places and names. You can read about this Here: King's Cross, London is a proper noun, as is Kings Cross, Sydney. The presence or absence of the apostrophe is neither correct nor incorrect. Both are simply names. Harrods was originally Harrod's, but the apostrophe was dropped from the name. This doesn't really matter as it's just a trade name (although some sticklers disagree). Now if the words weren't part of a proper noun, then there would be rules. A king's cross would be a cross belonging to a king. A kings' cross would be a cross belonging to kings. A kings cross would be a cross composed of kings. Anyways I don't want to derail this group thread conversation into a semantics debate.This is an international gaming forum we haven't dwelled much into formal literature works just yet We can change the name if members want to, no big deal just open a new thread and add a poll if you want. No biggie. I was a journalist for over a decade, so I can see it both ways. If you want to play off the name of the games, you stick with “World.” |
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Post by Saltin on Oct 21, 2017 0:26:59 GMT
Ohh no.. not just names I extend the apostrophe butchering to other realms as well. Prepare for many more grammatical atrocities, I have a steady and limitless supply of these More to the point: Groups have the privilege of choosing their own name.The initial tentative designation is just to launch the group, eventually they all vote and pick their own, at that point they inform me and I make them a new label/gfx for the name picked. Anyways, for most games cataloging and verifying conquest records is probably going to be a longer process so the expectation is that the group will grow slowly at first but eventually should have a quiet a few players and at that point can elect a formal group leader. |
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Post by Max Otto von Stierlitz on Oct 21, 2017 2:15:39 GMT
Technology makes a big difference on the no generals conquests, particularly since they put 100 percent Assault and the higher percentage artillery nullifications to retaliation towards the end of the tech trees. Takes a long time to farm the resources. IDK about how much late upgrades cost, but I think to get resources have to be much easier than upgrade 8 gens to maximum (especially keeping in mind, that tech you will need for gens too) or even farm 3 turns cooldown ion in WC3. Also assuming farming resources from wonders requires nothing, that is just a matter of time. |
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Post by soonerjbd on Oct 21, 2017 3:08:30 GMT
Technology makes a big difference on the no generals conquests, particularly since they put 100 percent Assault and the higher percentage artillery nullifications to retaliation towards the end of the tech trees. Takes a long time to farm the resources. IDK about how much late upgrades cost, but I think to get resources have to be much easier than upgrade 8 gens to maximum (especially keeping in mind, that tech you will need for gens too) or even farm 3 turns cooldown ion in WC3. Also assuming farming resources from wonders requires nothing, that is just a matter of time. You are quite right. Farming medals in WC3 took forever. Getting resources and even medals in WC4 is way easier. Just saying it will take a while for F2P players to get there. I paid some money up front, and it seemed way easier to max out. I spent more on WC3 and never came close to maxing out tech. |
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Post by Leonid Govorov on Oct 21, 2017 3:41:12 GMT
IDK about how much late upgrades cost, but I think to get resources have to be much easier than upgrade 8 gens to maximum (especially keeping in mind, that tech you will need for gens too) or even farm 3 turns cooldown ion in WC3. Also assuming farming resources from wonders requires nothing, that is just a matter of time. You are quite right. Farming medals in WC3 took forever. Getting resources and even medals in WC4 is way easier. Just saying it will take a while for F2P players to get there. I paid some money up front, and it seemed way easier to max out. I spent more on WC3 and never came close to maxing out tech. Requirements for maxing ion cannon: -4 batteries -7 centuries -lots of patience |
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Post by Leonid Govorov on Oct 21, 2017 3:42:27 GMT
Oops,sorry stoic as I was replying to your post I somehow end up merging it with my own and it got nuked in the process. RIP Stoic Post Bad Admin Here is the defunct post
Stoic said: I think that WC4 board has only one rightful heir to the throne right now . It is soonerjbd . No one else has a team or technology strong enough to demonstrate record breaking numbers. Maybe in several months time there will be other claimants...
I agree stoic , Soonerjbd got WC4 knowledge and a good general team.It looks like he might be grabbing the next elite spot in that group but then again.. it might be you who will break records or someone else, maybe even a new member that hasn't even registered in EFC yet , you never know where the next star is coming from Aside from that you brought up an interesting point, one that I haven't thought of till now: what to do if a player is awarded the group status then someone else has a faster time for the same conquest? Logically we just kick the former out but it is kinda hash maybe we'll come up with some kind of a consolation prize like "Formally known as World Conqueror Speed Master" ..or something along these lines Haha that is why we need backup PROBOARDS(I have seen your post on proboards support)(I know why they can't make backups but still ) P.S. RIP from my side as well. P.P.S. Is that why you usually tag members? |
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Post by soonerjbd on Oct 21, 2017 6:52:20 GMT
Next question saltin, where do we post to apply? I just did a 1939 Soviet conquest in 27 turns, which bests my previous record by 10 turns. Took screenshots virtually every turn, so I was planning to put it together in the WC4 World Records thread. I’m assuming that is the appropriate place. |
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Post by Saltin on Oct 21, 2017 7:28:48 GMT
Leonid Govorov , no I tag people so they get a notification and know they got an answer or If I need to get their attention for something or other. Also I often have to answer several members in the same post so this avoids confusion. soonerjbd , you did the speed conquest for WC4 so it should go in the [The way of The Emperor] board NetherFreek or one of the staff or myself can review it. 27 turns in WC4 is very fast, conquests in this game are so much harder than WC3. Mine are still in the 100 turns range   Although in the case of Finland 100 turns or so still earned me an " S" ranking !
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. It is soonerjbd . No one else has a team or technology strong enough to demonstrate record breaking numbers. Maybe in several months time there will be other claimants...
