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Post by stoic on Nov 7, 2017 6:25:18 GMT
My best guess is that your Guderian was on a simple heavy tank, and my Vatutin on supertank and triple stacked heavy tank. And size does matter in our case  I suggest you to use your Guderian on super tank in Destination Berlin (normal or hard), and we compare our results after that... Alright, I just did a quick experiment. No-Pz leader:128.714285714 Pz leader: 166.666666667 Increased to 29.457364341085274% percent, would say it's 30. Used super tank on Berlin easy BTW No clue then... It is a total mystery... Maybe Vatutin is simply better than Guderian |
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Post by Leonid Govorov on Nov 7, 2017 6:30:39 GMT
Alright, I just did a quick experiment. No-Pz leader:128.714285714 Pz leader: 166.666666667 Increased to 29.457364341085274% percent, would say it's 30. Used super tank on Berlin easy BTW No clue then... It is a total mystery... Maybe Vatutin is simply better than Guderian Noooo. He is not! |
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Post by stoic on Nov 7, 2017 6:37:21 GMT
No clue then... It is a total mystery... Maybe Vatutin is simply better than Guderian Noooo. He is not! Well in fact in his attacking potential he is deffinitely equal to Guderian. He is Guderian without Blitzkrieg and with Tide of iron instead of let's say Rumor. But Rumor and Blitzkrieg (though great as they are) have nothing to do with damage dealt by units. |
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Post by Leonid Govorov on Nov 7, 2017 7:00:37 GMT
Well in fact in his attacking potential he is deffinitely equal to Guderian. He is Guderian without Blitzkrieg and with Tide of iron instead of let's say Rumor. But Rumor and Blitzkrieg (though great as they are) have nothing to do with damage dealt by units. Well, let's just say he is Guderian lite. |
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Post by stoic on Nov 7, 2017 7:09:03 GMT
Well in fact in his attacking potential he is deffinitely equal to Guderian. He is Guderian without Blitzkrieg and with Tide of iron instead of let's say Rumor. But Rumor and Blitzkrieg (though great as they are) have nothing to do with damage dealt by units. Well, let's just say he is Guderian lite. Anyway it does not solve our problems I can't simply understand why we have a different percantage increase in the same circumstances  |
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Post by stoic on Nov 7, 2017 7:10:28 GMT
In your case only 30%, in my case 60-80%... It is the hell of a difference  |
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Post by andrei on Nov 7, 2017 7:13:27 GMT
Armor assault skill on the same level?
Medal for armor assault?
Tank tech level?
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Post by Leonid Govorov on Nov 7, 2017 7:18:57 GMT
Armor assault skill on the same level? Medal for armor assault? Tank tech level? I don't think this effects the results. I had 1 medal for armoured assult though. The one you get for S rank conquests. |
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Post by Leonid Govorov on Nov 7, 2017 7:20:36 GMT
In your case only 30%, in my case 60-80%... It is the hell of a difference I could try some other methods, but this will involve breaking some rules(ex hacking). That OK Saltin? If not, I won't. |
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Post by stoic on Nov 7, 2017 7:26:40 GMT
Armor assault skill on the same level? Medal for armor assault? Tank tech level? I don't think this effects the results. I had 1 medal for armoured assult though. The one you get for S rank conquests. At least this explains why damage without PL dealt by Guderian is bigger. Your Guderian has lvl 2 AA + medal, my Vatutin has lvl 1 AA + medal... |
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Post by Leonid Govorov on Nov 7, 2017 7:29:03 GMT
I don't think this effects the results. I had 1 medal for armoured assult though. The one you get for S rank conquests. At least this explains why damage without PL dealt by Guderian is bigger. Your Guderian has lvl 2 AA + medal, my Vatutin has lvl 1 AA + medal... I also upgraded Guderian's AA to some level(i dont remember atm). Anyways yeap, that explains it I guess. |
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Post by stoic on Nov 7, 2017 7:30:40 GMT
Armor assault skill on the same level? Medal for armor assault? Tank tech level? Vatutin - AA lvl1 + Medal Guderian - AA lvl2 (maybe higher) + Medal In time I did those tests I had probably 1/3 abilities unlocked |
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Post by andrei on Nov 7, 2017 7:36:56 GMT
Armor assault skill on the same level? Medal for armor assault? Tank tech level? Vatutin - AA lvl1 + Medal Guderian - AA lvl2 (maybe higher) + Medal In time I did those tests I had probably 1/3 abilities unlocked Techs difference - different unit's attack base AA lvl difference - different unit's attack buff and as we investigated PL impact is different That explains everything. IDK why You are so surprised in different figures. Moreover You are not specifying the defense of the unit You are attacking. We do not know what is the amount of damage (Your unit's attack) negated. |
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Post by stoic on Nov 7, 2017 7:41:13 GMT
Vatutin - AA lvl1 + Medal Guderian - AA lvl2 (maybe higher) + Medal In time I did those tests I had probably 1/3 abilities unlocked Techs difference - different unit's attack base AA lvl difference - different unit's attack buff and as we investigated PL impact is different That explains everything. IDK why You are so surprised in different figures. Well... May Vatutin has better percentage increase actually than Leonid Govorov's Guderian  |
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Post by stoic on Nov 7, 2017 7:43:13 GMT
As I said and demonstrated in page 8, I had 60-80% increase. Today Leonid Govorov did the same with only 30% increase |
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