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Post by Gone on Jul 20, 2019 20:08:24 GMT
 He is great for this invasion. Level his Machinist skill up once, then shove him here, and then shove anyone that is a Mayor. |
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Post by Gone on Sept 3, 2019 0:27:30 GMT
If only he had Armored Assault/Panzer Leader/Blitzkrieg instead of Tide of Iron. Easytech could have made him even stronger. BTW, he would be arguably better than Rokossovsky if he had this skillet.
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thesir
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Post by thesir on Sept 7, 2019 22:23:29 GMT
4 stars
Without a doubt, he is a good general, the problem is that it is simply not necessary ... Do you want to spend a lot on tanks? Buy from Guderian or Rossokovsky ... Do you want someone who only hits hard? Vatutin and Leclerc are excellent options ... Do you want a defensive general? Monty is much better ... Anyway, I think you understand where I want to go.
I would only recommend it if you already obtained the 6 mandatory Generals (Guderian, Rommel, Konev, Leeb, Yamamoto / Nimitz and Yamashita)
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Post by Friedrich “Fried Rice” Paulus on Sept 8, 2019 2:52:17 GMT
4 stars Without a doubt, he is a good general, the problem is that it is simply not necessary ... Do you want to spend a lot on tanks? Buy from Guderian or Rossokovsky ... Do you want someone who only hits hard? Vatutin and Leclerc are excellent options ... Do you want a defensive general? Monty is much better ... Anyway, I think you understand where I want to go. I would only recommend it if you already obtained the 6 mandatory Generals (Guderian, Rommel, Konev, Leeb, Yamamoto / Nimitz and Yamashita) I wouldn’t say monty is much better. Why get a defensive general, you already have rommel. Graziani can heal fast and reach max rank very quickly. He is also Bradley on steroids for artillery. Leclerc imo is not good enough to buy, due to monty existing. As for vatutin, yes he is better. But not by that much if you think about it. Just his terrain bonus occurs more often. I think that he is more desirable than yamamoto (remember kuznetsov exists). |
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Post by Friedrich “Fried Rice” Paulus on Sept 11, 2019 0:34:06 GMT
I think that graziani might actually be a better artillery general than a tank general. Literally all 5 of his skills on good on artillery, and with accuracy and artillery leader, he will be amazing for conquest.
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Post by thesir on Sept 11, 2019 4:42:33 GMT
4 stars Without a doubt, he is a good general, the problem is that it is simply not necessary ... Do you want to spend a lot on tanks? Buy from Guderian or Rossokovsky ... Do you want someone who only hits hard? Vatutin and Leclerc are excellent options ... Do you want a defensive general? Monty is much better ... Anyway, I think you understand where I want to go. I would only recommend it if you already obtained the 6 mandatory Generals (Guderian, Rommel, Konev, Leeb, Yamamoto / Nimitz and Yamashita) I wouldn’t say monty is much better. Why get a defensive general, you already have rommel. Graziani can heal fast and reach max rank very quickly. He is also Bradley on steroids for artillery. Leclerc imo is not good enough to buy, due to monty existing. As for vatutin, yes he is better. But not by that much if you think about it. Just his terrain bonus occurs more often. I think that he is more desirable than yamamoto (remember kuznetsov exists). Well, you're right about the defensive generals. I mentioned Leclerc because he has some stats similar to Graziani at the beginning, 5 stars in Panzer, around 3 of Movement and Artillery stars in addition to having "Panzer Leader" as a starting ability costing much less than Graziani. Graziani is better but you will have to invest more to make it 100% better than Leclerc. |
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Post by Gone on Sept 14, 2019 2:57:30 GMT
4 stars Without a doubt, he is a good general, the problem is that it is simply not necessary ... Do you want to spend a lot on tanks? Buy from Guderian or Rossokovsky ... Do you want someone who only hits hard? Vatutin and Leclerc are excellent options ... Do you want a defensive general? Monty is much better ... Anyway, I think you understand where I want to go. I would only recommend it if you already obtained the 6 mandatory Generals (Guderian, Rommel, Konev, Leeb, Yamamoto / Nimitz and Yamashita) Your points about Graziani are true, but I’d like to point a few things out about the mentioned generals. 1. Rokossovsky is only an option if you don’t have Manstein. If otherwise, don’t even bother with Konstantin because in the end, he will perform the same as Erich only that it will cost a ton of medals. 2. Defensive generals are unnecessary because this game is about attacking. There are way too few defensive missions to warrant buying a general just for defending, and any good tank general with Rumor and a decent rank on a triple-stacked Heavy Tank or Super Tank will defend well. Also, late in the game, enemy artillery will have a very high non-retaliation chance to the point where your defensive generals are meatshields. 3. Yamashita isn’t a mandatory general because Infantry is very ineffective in Modern War. The terrorists deal high damage and all of their troops except Elite Infantry have 2 hexes range. If you want an Infantry general just to clear Infantry invasions and maybe Exercise in Petropavlosk, get Mannerheim. He has the same rank as Yamashita, 2 great Level 3 skills (Can have a fourth) and the same stars. He’s only somewhat slower and can’t equip a 5th skill. However, Infantry has high movement by default, so movement stars for Infantry don’t matter. And the 5th skill would be likely either Guerrilla, which is mediocre compared to Blitzkrieg, and Explosives, but the terrorists don’t use fortifications. Said fortifications aren’t difficult to destroy with rocket artillery, heavy tanks and cruisers. 4. Don’t consider Yamamoto. He’s good, but his price is high as heck and his skills are all Level 1. For his price, you can get Kuznetsov and Arnold which perform the same as him in their respective roles. Instead of Yama, I’d recommend Dönitz, who has a similar price, but one Level 4 skill, another is Level 3 and another is Level 2. |
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Post by Friedrich “Fried Rice” Paulus on Sept 14, 2019 10:32:32 GMT
4 stars Without a doubt, he is a good general, the problem is that it is simply not necessary ... Do you want to spend a lot on tanks? Buy from Guderian or Rossokovsky ... Do you want someone who only hits hard? Vatutin and Leclerc are excellent options ... Do you want a defensive general? Monty is much better ... Anyway, I think you understand where I want to go. I would only recommend it if you already obtained the 6 mandatory Generals (Guderian, Rommel, Konev, Leeb, Yamamoto / Nimitz and Yamashita) Your points about Graziani are true, but I’d like to point a few things out about the mentioned generals. 1. Rokossovsky is only an option if you don’t have Manstein. If otherwise, don’t even bother with Konstantin because in the end, he will perform the same as Erich only that it will cost a ton of medals. 2. Defensive generals are unnecessary because this game is about attacking. There are way too few defensive missions to warrant buying a general just for defending, and any good tank general with Rumor and a decent rank on a triple-stacked Heavy Tank or Super Tank will defend well. Also, late in the game, enemy artillery will have a very high non-retaliation chance to the point where your defensive generals are meatshields. 3. Yamashita isn’t a mandatory general because Infantry is very ineffective in Modern War. The terrorists deal high damage and all of their troops except Elite Infantry have 2 hexes range. If you want an Infantry general just to clear Infantry invasions and maybe Exercise in Petropavlosk, get Mannerheim. He has the same rank as Yamashita, 2 great Level 3 skills (Can have a fourth) and the same stars. He’s only somewhat slower and can’t equip a 5th skill. However, Infantry has high movement by default, so movement stars for Infantry don’t matter. And the 5th skill would be likely either Guerrilla, which is mediocre compared to Blitzkrieg, and Explosives, but the terrorists don’t use fortifications. Said fortifications aren’t difficult to destroy with rocket artillery, heavy tanks and cruisers. 4. Don’t consider Yamamoto. He’s good, but his price is high as heck and his skills are all Level 1. For his price, you can get Kuznetsov and Arnold which perform the same as him in their respective roles. Instead of Yama, I’d recommend Dönitz, who has a similar price, but one Level 4 skill, another is Level 3 and another is Level 2. I agree with all of those. Rokossovsky may be needed tho as a 4th tank general if you have manstein (more tankers the better). Personally I agree with yamashita. I think that mannerheim is the best. Buying him and giving him inf leader lvl 3 will cost you less than yamashita. Agreed, yamamoto is uneeded. He is a very strong fort cracker though. Infantry is quite good in the modern war conquest, to clear out abandoned cities, but it is not worth buying anyone new over it |
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Post by Gone on Sept 14, 2019 11:25:47 GMT
Your points about Graziani are true, but I’d like to point a few things out about the mentioned generals. 1. Rokossovsky is only an option if you don’t have Manstein. If otherwise, don’t even bother with Konstantin because in the end, he will perform the same as Erich only that it will cost a ton of medals. 2. Defensive generals are unnecessary because this game is about attacking. There are way too few defensive missions to warrant buying a general just for defending, and any good tank general with Rumor and a decent rank on a triple-stacked Heavy Tank or Super Tank will defend well. Also, late in the game, enemy artillery will have a very high non-retaliation chance to the point where your defensive generals are meatshields. 3. Yamashita isn’t a mandatory general because Infantry is very ineffective in Modern War. The terrorists deal high damage and all of their troops except Elite Infantry have 2 hexes range. If you want an Infantry general just to clear Infantry invasions and maybe Exercise in Petropavlosk, get Mannerheim. He has the same rank as Yamashita, 2 great Level 3 skills (Can have a fourth) and the same stars. He’s only somewhat slower and can’t equip a 5th skill. However, Infantry has high movement by default, so movement stars for Infantry don’t matter. And the 5th skill would be likely either Guerrilla, which is mediocre compared to Blitzkrieg, and Explosives, but the terrorists don’t use fortifications. Said fortifications aren’t difficult to destroy with rocket artillery, heavy tanks and cruisers. 4. Don’t consider Yamamoto. He’s good, but his price is high as heck and his skills are all Level 1. For his price, you can get Kuznetsov and Arnold which perform the same as him in their respective roles. Instead of Yama, I’d recommend Dönitz, who has a similar price, but one Level 4 skill, another is Level 3 and another is Level 2. I agree with all of those. Rokossovsky may be needed tho as a 4th tank general if you have manstein (more tankers the better). Personally I agree with yamashita. I think that mannerheim is the best. Buying him and giving him inf leader lvl 3 will cost you less than yamashita. Agreed, yamamoto is uneeded. He is a very strong fort cracker though. Infantry is quite good in the modern war conquest, to clear out abandoned cities, but it is not worth buying anyone new over it About Rokossovsky, I believe it's up to you. In Modern War missions, you either have to use Rokossovsky or Konev, depending on the mission you’re playing. He won’t dissapoint, the fact that he doesn’t initially have 6 tank stars just annoys me a bit. But he doesn’t immediately need that star, so yeah, he is a good buy. |
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Post by Friedrich “Fried Rice” Paulus on Sept 14, 2019 11:39:30 GMT
I agree with all of those. Rokossovsky may be needed tho as a 4th tank general if you have manstein (more tankers the better). Personally I agree with yamashita. I think that mannerheim is the best. Buying him and giving him inf leader lvl 3 will cost you less than yamashita. Agreed, yamamoto is uneeded. He is a very strong fort cracker though. Infantry is quite good in the modern war conquest, to clear out abandoned cities, but it is not worth buying anyone new over it About Rokossovsky, I believe it's up to you. In Modern War missions, you either have to use Rokossovsky or Konev, depending on the mission you’re playing. He won’t dissapoint, the fact that he doesn’t initially have 6 tank stars just annoys me a bit. But he doesn’t immediately need that star, so yeah, he is a good buy. I think stars are negligible in wc4. So its not really worth upgrading. |
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Post by Gone on Sept 14, 2019 11:42:27 GMT
About Rokossovsky, I believe it's up to you. In Modern War missions, you either have to use Rokossovsky or Konev, depending on the mission you’re playing. He won’t dissapoint, the fact that he doesn’t initially have 6 tank stars just annoys me a bit. But he doesn’t immediately need that star, so yeah, he is a good buy. I think stars are negligible in wc4. So its not really worth upgrading. What about that story where tanks needed to do as much damage as possible to one-shot anything and attack again? |
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Post by Friedrich “Fried Rice” Paulus on Sept 14, 2019 11:43:08 GMT
I think stars are negligible in wc4. So its not really worth upgrading. What about that story where tanks needed to do as much damage as possible to one-shot anything and attack again? Bro its 500 medals for 6 damage though |
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Post by Gone on Sept 14, 2019 11:44:54 GMT
What about that story where tanks needed to do as much damage as possible to one-shot anything and attack again? Bro its 500 medals for 6 damage though I know, but even then, people would say “It’s worth it”. Thanks for sharing this opinion with me. |
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Post by Gone on Sept 14, 2019 11:45:23 GMT
800 medals actually which is even more absurd. You could Level all of his relevant skills up to 3 with that amount.
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Post by Friedrich “Fried Rice” Paulus on Sept 14, 2019 12:23:14 GMT
800 medals actually which is even more absurd. You could Level all of his relevant skills up to 3 with that amount. Imo roko does not have any. Entrenchment is quite a decent skill for tanks |
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