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Post by Harry Lillis "Bing" Crosby Jr on Apr 21, 2020 0:46:24 GMT
I think that getting a defensive general and adding economic boost is better then offensive, because then you can spawn more units to your aid I support this. Somewhat relevant examples are Tito, French gens or Dowding |
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Post by Harry Lillis "Bing" Crosby Jr on Apr 21, 2020 0:47:20 GMT
Why not that SOVEIT general Rovksary? (Terrible speller) Rokossovsky (I had troubles initially but this is after 2 years of spelling his name  ) is a great gen, but according to sun he is constantly outclassed by new contenders. |
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Post by Darth Vader on Apr 21, 2020 0:56:09 GMT
Yeah it is sad, I still remember using him to stop the German advance In wc3 conquest!
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Post by Darth Vader on Apr 21, 2020 1:01:44 GMT
I like general Tito for his economic boost and guerilla tactics. I wish they boosted him, and also after fall of Belgrade there should be a partisan movement.
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Post by Sun Li-jen of the Glorious RoC on Apr 21, 2020 5:41:54 GMT
Why not that SOVEIT general Rovksary? (Terrible speller) Rokossovsky (I had troubles initially but this is after 2 years of spelling his name ) is a great gen, but according to sun he is constantly outclassed by new contenders. No, I didn't say that. He is only outclassed by Graziani, still number 4. |
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Post by Harry Lillis "Bing" Crosby Jr on Apr 21, 2020 5:44:54 GMT
Rokossovsky (I had troubles initially but this is after 2 years of spelling his name ) is a great gen, but according to sun he is constantly outclassed by new contenders. No, I didn't say that. He is only outclassed by Graziani, still number 4. Your ranking is one thing, but seems like you substantiate some of Patton's skills over Rokossvsky's. |
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Post by Sun Li-jen of the Glorious RoC on Apr 21, 2020 5:51:11 GMT
No, I didn't say that. He is only outclassed by Graziani, still number 4. Your ranking is one thing, but seems like you substantiate some of Patton's skills over Rokossvsky's. Nope, Rokossovsky's skills are better. Patton's extra 1 movement and 4 air stars don't even seem to help much. |
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Post by Harry Lillis "Bing" Crosby Jr on Apr 21, 2020 6:30:55 GMT
Your ranking is one thing, but seems like you substantiate some of Patton's skills over Rokossvsky's. Nope, Rokossovsky's skills are better. Patton's extra 1 movement and 4 air stars don't even seem to help much. You mentioned about shelter and entrenchment/camouflage was it. |
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Post by Sun Li-jen of the Glorious RoC on Apr 21, 2020 6:58:18 GMT
Nope, Rokossovsky's skills are better. Patton's extra 1 movement and 4 air stars don't even seem to help much. You mentioned about shelter and entrenchment/camouflage was it. Yes, camouflage is comparable to shelter, but panz leader is ahead of entrechment of course. That's why Rokossovsky is still better. |
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Post by Sun Li-jen of the Glorious RoC on May 4, 2020 7:51:28 GMT
Nope, all silver tiers are inferior to all gold tier. Btw the weakest in gild tier is not Patton, it's Monty I don‘t see the same. Some silver tier and bronze is not inferior to gold like Leeb, Vatutin, Nagumo ETC or Interm of Economic Choice like Messi, Kuznetsov. Nope, it certainly is a misconception. Having one extra slot and more stars are making even Patton and Montgomery better than all of the silver tiers. Compared to Vatutin, Timoshenko, and Sun; Patton or Montgomery with Rumor and amored assault or rumor and crowd tactics would badly outclass them. Plus extra stars on tank, movement, and air power. They're not clustered as gold for nothing. They may be the worst in gold tier, but the best if they were put in silver. Leeb and Arnold are different though. Compare apple to apple, tank to tank. |
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Post by Sun Li-jen of the Glorious RoC on May 4, 2020 7:53:33 GMT
Nope, all silver tiers are inferior to all gold tier. Btw the weakest in gild tier is not Patton, it's Monty many will not agree, including me. Extra skill slot and stars mean a LOT. Look at my post above. ^ |
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Post by Harry Lillis "Bing" Crosby Jr on May 4, 2020 8:24:33 GMT
You might be taking the idea of performance literally. In general performance, abilities are just one of the multiple aspects to be considered. Cost-effectiveness, price and usefulness are other factors that also play important roles in determining a general's performance and rank amongst his counterparts. I would never get Montgomery over Vatutin/Messe/Timoshenko if I need a defensive support or a beginner general. Hence in this case, ability wise it is rather obvious that silver tier generals cannot catch up with their gold rivals, but what the community finds useful is their value as generals alone.
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Post by Sun Li-jen of the Glorious RoC on May 4, 2020 8:43:32 GMT
You might be taking the idea of performance literally. In general performance, abilities are just one of the multiple aspects to be considered. Cost-effectiveness, price and usefulness are other factors that also play important roles in determining a general's performance and rank amongst his counterparts. I would never get Montgomery over Vatutin/Messe/Timoshenko if I need a defensive support or a beginner general. Hence in this case, ability wise it is rather obvious that silver tier generals cannot catch up with their gold rivals, but what the community finds useful is their value as generals alone. The idea of Montgomery as defensive tanks is very absurd. How can he be a defensive gen? Crossfire and plain fighting are both offensive. I don,t like him because he is too offensive. Yes, other aspects such as rank, cost effectiveness, etc are important. I also put them into consideration. Btw, Patton also wins in cost effectiveness, because you'll need 800 medals to upgrade Montgomery's panzer star, and he has PLASTIC defense which is useless but very expensive. Patton's camouflage is rarely useful too, but at least it is much cheaper than PLASTIC defense. |
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Post by Harry Lillis "Bing" Crosby Jr on May 4, 2020 10:54:07 GMT
You might be taking the idea of performance literally. In general performance, abilities are just one of the multiple aspects to be considered. Cost-effectiveness, price and usefulness are other factors that also play important roles in determining a general's performance and rank amongst his counterparts. I would never get Montgomery over Vatutin/Messe/Timoshenko if I need a defensive support or a beginner general. Hence in this case, ability wise it is rather obvious that silver tier generals cannot catch up with their gold rivals, but what the community finds useful is their value as generals alone. The idea of Montgomery as defensive tanks is very absurd. How can he be a defensive gen? Crossfire and plain fighting are both offensive. I don,t like him because he is too offensive. Yes, other aspects such as rank, cost effectiveness, etc are important. I also put them into consideration. Btw, Patton also wins in cost effectiveness, because you'll need 800 medals to upgrade Montgomery's panzer star, and he has PLASTIC defense which is useless but very expensive. Patton's camouflage is rarely useful too, but at least it is much cheaper than PLASTIC defense. Um crossfire is for counterattack, and cities supposedly count as plains lel. And im not comparing between Patton and Montgomery anymore, but between Silver and Gold tier gens |
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Post by Sun Li-jen of the Glorious RoC on May 4, 2020 15:48:06 GMT
The idea of Montgomery as defensive tanks is very absurd. How can he be a defensive gen? Crossfire and plain fighting are both offensive. I don,t like him because he is too offensive. Yes, other aspects such as rank, cost effectiveness, etc are important. I also put them into consideration. Btw, Patton also wins in cost effectiveness, because you'll need 800 medals to upgrade Montgomery's panzer star, and he has PLASTIC defense which is useless but very expensive. Patton's camouflage is rarely useful too, but at least it is much cheaper than PLASTIC defense. Um crossfire is for counterattack, and cities supposedly count as plains lel. And im not comparing between Patton and Montgomery anymore, but between Silver and Gold tier gens Wait, what?! I also realized plain fighting works on cities. This will probably change my perception on Montgomery and other generals too. Thanks for informing me. Couldn't believe I overlooked such thing. I've made some terrible mistakes. I'll revise my generals reviews, but not now. I'm pretty busy these days. |
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) is a great gen, but according to sun he is constantly outclassed by new contenders.
