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Post by Friedrich “Fried Rice” Paulus on Jan 8, 2019 1:33:24 GMT
If you upgrade Messe's rumor to Level 5 he basically becomes a “land-Arnold”. I think a better Land Arnold is Heinrici, who has five stars in movement. But yeah, if you want to keep Messe around for end game, he is pretty damn good. |
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Post by unnamed356 on Jan 8, 2019 1:40:11 GMT
I kept Messe till the end even though he has no upgrades apart from red nameplate
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Post by operationoverdrive on Feb 6, 2019 11:16:08 GMT
I find that ET likes to dispense a good cheap general among many not so good cheap ones (Ozawa in WC3, Messe in WC4)
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Post by Friedrich “Fried Rice” Paulus on Feb 6, 2019 11:19:27 GMT
I find that ET likes to dispense a good cheap general among many not so good cheap ones (Ozawa in WC3, Messe in WC4) Agree. |
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Post by Harry Lillis "Bing" Crosby Jr on Feb 7, 2019 10:50:50 GMT
dont forget kuznetsov as well
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Post by Fedor von Bock on Feb 7, 2019 14:20:39 GMT
dont forget kuznetsov as well Am I cheap? hope I am one of those! |
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Post by Harry Lillis "Bing" Crosby Jr on Feb 7, 2019 22:32:34 GMT
dont forget kuznetsov as well Am I cheap? hope I am one of those! Yep youre affordable too  |
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Post by Fedor von Bock on Feb 8, 2019 1:56:44 GMT
Yep youre affordable too If anyone here wants to blitz through Holland and Belgium, I got your back! |
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Post by Friedrich “Fried Rice” Paulus on Feb 8, 2019 2:58:53 GMT
Yep youre affordable too If anyone here wants to blitz through Holland and Belgium, I got your back! Pretty good general I’d say. Yours slowly getting better and better with each game. |
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Post by Jeanne d'Arc on May 6, 2019 22:23:56 GMT
Messe is perhaps the first class beginning general of the game. I gave him a 4 mainly due to the fact that you will probably get better generals, but also because he is top notch for beginning players. He has almost never let me down.
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Post by Harry Lillis "Bing" Crosby Jr on May 7, 2019 6:44:21 GMT
Messe is perhaps the first class beginning general of the game. I gave him a 4 mainly due to the fact that you will probably get better generals, but also because he is top notch for beginning players. He has almost never let me down. Your messe is like my vatutin to me for efficiency i put rumour on vatutin so that albeit the higher cost, he can still fare as well as messe with increased damage |
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Post by Gone on Jun 20, 2019 2:00:54 GMT
Messe actually has more useful skills than Rokossovsky. Rokossovsky's only useful starting skill is Panzer Leader since Tide of Iron and Shelter aren’t that good. Rokossovsky can be better than Messe at the cost of almost 3000 medals, which when you think about it isn’t really worth it. Give Messe one more tank star, promote his rank and he will be a very useful support tank general. Instead of Rokossovsky, I would use Rommel.
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Post by Harry Lillis "Bing" Crosby Jr on Jun 20, 2019 14:42:35 GMT
Messe actually has more useful skills than Rokossovsky. Rokossovsky's only useful starting skill is Panzer Leader since Tide of Iron and Shelter aren’t that good. Rokossovsky can be better than Messe at the cost of almost 3000 medals, which when you think about it isn’t really worth it. Give Messe one more tank star, promote his rank and he will be a very useful support tank general. Instead of Rokossovsky, I would use Rommel. tide of iron, when fully upgraded, is very valuable especially when your generals get hit hard in 1980. stoic, I remember you have the same opinion? Shelter is very prominent in 1980 too, considering how the AI spams missiles at your generals |
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Post by stoic on Jun 20, 2019 14:54:14 GMT
Messe actually has more useful skills than Rokossovsky. Rokossovsky's only useful starting skill is Panzer Leader since Tide of Iron and Shelter aren’t that good. Rokossovsky can be better than Messe at the cost of almost 3000 medals, which when you think about it isn’t really worth it. Give Messe one more tank star, promote his rank and he will be a very useful support tank general. Instead of Rokossovsky, I would use Rommel. tide of iron, when fully upgraded, is very valuable especially when your generals get hit hard in 1980. stoic, I remember you have the same opinion? Shelter is very prominent in 1980 too, considering how the AI spams missiles at your generals In fact, almost always my generals had less than 50% of health towards the end of EACH Modern war mission. And with ToI Vatutin, for example, was able to deal immense damage even with 50 HPs left. My Rokossovsky was a "Blitzkrieger", so ToI was less important in his case, but I definitely would upgrade his ToI as well, if I had a chance. Unfortunately, I completed the game before I could fully upgrade my generals  Back to question that farming is a pain in WC4  |
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Post by Harry Lillis "Bing" Crosby Jr on Jun 20, 2019 14:58:51 GMT
tide of iron, when fully upgraded, is very valuable especially when your generals get hit hard in 1980. stoic , I remember you have the same opinion? Shelter is very prominent in 1980 too, considering how the AI spams missiles at your generals In fact, almost always my generals had less than 50% of health towards the end of EACH Modern war mission. And with ToI Vatutin, for example, was able to deal immense damage even with 50 HPs left. My Rokossovsky was a "Blitzkrieger", so ToI was less important in his case, but I definitely would upgrade his ToI as well, if I had a chance. Unfortunately, I completed the game before I could fully upgrade my generals Back to question that farming is a pain in WC4 yes it is a pain yup, toi is a gem in 1980. Unless you can blitzkrieg everyone and do not get targeted, which is unlikely given the strength of titan tanks and mere elite infantry |
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