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Post by silvercreek on Mar 5, 2019 2:42:06 GMT
Hell on a saddle. I personally back off this one until all Cavarly gens or maxed out. Even then,pray and then pray again;)
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Post by Deleted on Mar 5, 2019 4:37:37 GMT
Yeah, it's really hard. It's harder than all of the Roman unification campaign combined. Really need to either get lucky, or have more cavalry gens to deal with the large number of enemy units. So should I sell all my infantry generals??? (I only have Massena plus 2 free ones) And use the current 1400 medals I have to try to upgrade my generals or what? This mission seems near impossible to me... Also how many princesses did you guys use/which princesses should I use in this mission? Get more cavalry gens. This challenge is hell on earth. Also, even with princesses, it's still hard. The reason it's hard is because you can't separate the enemy and defeat them in detail, so you're pretty much facing the full force when defending a city. Doesn't help that reinforcements arrive, so i guess your best bet is defending the first city with your strongest gens to cut off the reinforcements, while trying to harass the main force and weakening them.
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Mar 5, 2019 6:50:34 GMT
Post by Louis Gabriel Suchet on Mar 5, 2019 6:50:34 GMT
So should I sell all my infantry generals??? (I only have Massena plus 2 free ones) And use the current 1400 medals I have to try to upgrade my generals or what? This mission seems near impossible to me... Also how many princesses did you guys use/which princesses should I use in this mission? Get more cavalry gens. This challenge is hell on earth. Also, even with princesses, it's still hard. The reason it's hard is because you can't separate the enemy and defeat them in detail, so you're pretty much facing the full force when defending a city. Doesn't help that reinforcements arrive, so i guess your best bet is defending the first city with your strongest gens to cut off the reinforcements, while trying to harass the main force and weakening them. My strategy (which is good, but doesn't work for me cuz I don't have that good generals, it will probably work for other people tho) is to deploy all forces on the left flank of the enemy, let them capture the first objective city, then circle around and hit them in the back. The rocket artillery and siege artillery are easy targets. I have had some success drawing 3 or 4 enemy units away from the main force, but on the whole, the enemy generals will usually ignore your distractions. Thus you can bait some of the enemies, you just have to do it carefully. Anyways, I think the way to go is picking off the back reserves so that the first "main force" with OP generals (Sofia) will be left without regular units... Of course, these generals are so strong that they don't need regular units, but it still alleviates the pressure and helps your allies... Ok, so does that sound like a good strategy? I know it can work, I just need better generals so should I spend my medals on upgrading Murat and Dabrowski then? I was saving for Mahumud, Karl, or Sakurako, but now I dunno... Tips? Suggestions? Improvements?
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Post by Deleted on Mar 5, 2019 7:09:34 GMT
Get more cavalry gens. This challenge is hell on earth. Also, even with princesses, it's still hard. The reason it's hard is because you can't separate the enemy and defeat them in detail, so you're pretty much facing the full force when defending a city. Doesn't help that reinforcements arrive, so i guess your best bet is defending the first city with your strongest gens to cut off the reinforcements, while trying to harass the main force and weakening them. My strategy (which is good, but doesn't work for me cuz I don't have that good generals, it will probably work for other people tho) is to deploy all forces on the left flank of the enemy, let them capture the first objective city, then circle around and hit them in the back. The rocket artillery and siege artillery are easy targets. I have had some success drawing 3 or 4 enemy units away from the main force, but on the whole, the enemy generals will usually ignore your distractions. Thus you can bait some of the enemies, you just have to do it carefully. Anyways, I think the way to go is picking off the back reserves so that the first "main force" with OP generals (Sofia) will be left without regular units... Of course, these generals are so strong that they don't need regular units, but it still alleviates the pressure and helps your allies... Ok, so does that sound like a good strategy? I know it can work, I just need better generals so should I spend my medals on upgrading Murat and Dabrowski then? I was saving for Mahumud, Karl, or Sakurako, but now I dunno... Tips? Suggestions? Improvements? I tried that, but i failed because of the reinforcements. I'd say focus on other things and not to solely focus on this challenge, like saving for your other gens. Although it's great if you can get a cavalry gen or 2 for this. I guess a max maria can be useful, so you can spam mamluk cavalry for your cavalry gens.
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Mar 5, 2019 23:33:02 GMT
Post by Louis Gabriel Suchet on Mar 5, 2019 23:33:02 GMT
My strategy (which is good, but doesn't work for me cuz I don't have that good generals, it will probably work for other people tho) is to deploy all forces on the left flank of the enemy, let them capture the first objective city, then circle around and hit them in the back. The rocket artillery and siege artillery are easy targets. I have had some success drawing 3 or 4 enemy units away from the main force, but on the whole, the enemy generals will usually ignore your distractions. Thus you can bait some of the enemies, you just have to do it carefully. Anyways, I think the way to go is picking off the back reserves so that the first "main force" with OP generals (Sofia) will be left without regular units... Of course, these generals are so strong that they don't need regular units, but it still alleviates the pressure and helps your allies... Ok, so does that sound like a good strategy? I know it can work, I just need better generals so should I spend my medals on upgrading Murat and Dabrowski then? I was saving for Mahumud, Karl, or Sakurako, but now I dunno... Tips? Suggestions? Improvements? I tried that, but i failed because of the reinforcements. I'd say focus on other things and not to solely focus on this challenge, like saving for your other gens. Although it's great if you can get a cavalry gen or 2 for this. I guess a max maria can be useful, so you can spam mamluk cavalry for your cavalry gens. With me being a no IAP person... I have upgraded Dabrowski, Murat, Alexander 1st, and Massena right now... I think I will just try to 1 star it and come back... so what would the 1 star strategy be? Also should I upgrade Murat and Dabrowski some more? Or save up for another general like Mahumud?
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Post by Deleted on Mar 6, 2019 1:11:11 GMT
I tried that, but i failed because of the reinforcements. I'd say focus on other things and not to solely focus on this challenge, like saving for your other gens. Although it's great if you can get a cavalry gen or 2 for this. I guess a max maria can be useful, so you can spam mamluk cavalry for your cavalry gens. With me being a no IAP person... I have upgraded Dabrowski, Murat, Alexander 1st, and Massena right now... I think I will just try to 1 star it and come back... so what would the 1 star strategy be? Also should I upgrade Murat and Dabrowski some more? Or save up for another general like Mahumud? Same strat, but trying to hold on the first city. Even that is hard since you'll get pincered after the enemy captures the last city. Do what i did in all the challenges : just keep trying until you get the optimal results, while changing strategies to see what's best.
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Mar 8, 2019 7:29:59 GMT
Post by dsongop on Mar 8, 2019 7:29:59 GMT
I managed to hold the most southern city, and the eastern city on turn 16, and I built fresh riflemen on both, but somehow the Russians took both of them. Imagine how furious I was! I built 2 fortresses around the eastern city, so I never lost it until the last turn. I'm gonna save up for Dabrowski, (he's 200 medals away) and upgrade him and attempt this again. If I succeed, I'll make a guide for this.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 8, 2019 7:32:39 GMT
I managed to hold the most southern city, and the eastern city on turn 16, and I built fresh riflemen on both, but somehow the Russians took both of them. Imagine how furious I was! I built 2 fortresses around the eastern city, so I never lost it until the last turn. I'm gonna save up for Dabrowski, (he's 200 medals away) and upgrade him and attempt this again. If I succeed, I'll make a guide for this. Good luck buddy. Try using Mamluk cavalries if you upgraded the population for cavalry and have a max Maria, that may help.
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Mar 8, 2019 12:40:48 GMT
Post by zabadanov86 on Mar 8, 2019 12:40:48 GMT
Key to this mission is Mameluks. Got 3 star on it, Bluther on armored car, Murat, Dabrowski, Davoutvon Mameluke that were bought on discount due to Maria, Napoleon, Sophia, Alex, Mahmud and Nelson on arty, bought 2 light arty and budget in the end was 2 gold. Then move on north and follow the invaders, take eastern city, leave one unit, take middle, make it a permanent base, then take western and hold. In the end retake eastern city with force march. With Mameluke kill units with low health to regenerate and that is your key to survival. Read more: european-war-4.boards.net/thread/9923/siege?page=3#ixzz5haEtBijR
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Post by zabadanov86 on Mar 8, 2019 12:43:24 GMT
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May 30, 2019 0:34:07 GMT
Post by Louis Gabriel Suchet on May 30, 2019 0:34:07 GMT
I managed to hold the most southern city, and the eastern city on turn 16, and I built fresh riflemen on both, but somehow the Russians took both of them. Imagine how furious I was! I built 2 fortresses around the eastern city, so I never lost it until the last turn. I'm gonna save up for Dabrowski, (he's 200 medals away) and upgrade him and attempt this again. If I succeed, I'll make a guide for this. Good luck buddy. Try using Mamluk cavalries if you upgraded the population for cavalry and have a max Maria, that may help. The problem is that I don't have enough gold to spam Mamluks (I have fully upgraded Maria), and even with the population upgrade they still take up 7. In addition starting troops plus 7 population is way over the limit which means I won't be getting any gold. My Cav. are almost fully upgraded, but I don't think it is worth it to use the gold on Cav. units, better to save it for upgrading city to get higher health troops... I still can't beat it, though I upgraded Murat to Marshal rank. Any itemization suggestions/other tips (BTW I am aiming for a 1 star, and come back later)? I still can't beat it, though I got to turn 15... RIP
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Post by stoic on May 30, 2019 4:08:47 GMT
Good luck buddy. Try using Mamluk cavalries if you upgraded the population for cavalry and have a max Maria, that may help. The problem is that I don't have enough gold to spam Mamluks (I have fully upgraded Maria), and even with the population upgrade they still take up 7. In addition starting troops plus 7 population is way over the limit which means I won't be getting any gold. My Cav. are almost fully upgraded, but I don't think it is worth it to use the gold on Cav. units, better to save it for upgrading city to get higher health troops... I still can't beat it, though I upgraded Murat to Marshal rank. Any itemization suggestions/other tips (BTW I am aiming for a 1 star, and come back later)? I still can't beat it, though I got to turn 15... RIP I completed this mission with 2 stars almost a year ago and my memory is not as fresh as it should be , but I remember my strategy was to build a defensive wall around the third Serbian city (the main key point of AI's attack). Don't attack in your turn (so that your generals could restore some health). It is also possible to deploy Sophia in some of these cities. The main point is to prevent your cities from being encircled by enemies, try to build forts near cities (not for damage but simply to block their advancement). So I could accomplish both: 1. to defend all 3 key targets with my Infantry generals. 2. to defend 1 key target without my Infantry generals. So, all demands of the mission were met, unfortunately for me it was not done at the same time I had 4 Infantry generals in my team and it is close to impossible to receive 3 stars for this mission in this situation. The only chance to do it with 3 stars, is to dismiss our Infantry generals and hire Cavalry and Arty generals instead (or to buy additional slots for generals, of course).
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May 31, 2019 2:24:06 GMT
Post by Louis Gabriel Suchet on May 31, 2019 2:24:06 GMT
The problem is that I don't have enough gold to spam Mamluks (I have fully upgraded Maria), and even with the population upgrade they still take up 7. In addition starting troops plus 7 population is way over the limit which means I won't be getting any gold. My Cav. are almost fully upgraded, but I don't think it is worth it to use the gold on Cav. units, better to save it for upgrading city to get higher health troops... I still can't beat it, though I upgraded Murat to Marshal rank. Any itemization suggestions/other tips (BTW I am aiming for a 1 star, and come back later)? I still can't beat it, though I got to turn 15... RIP I completed this mission with 2 stars almost a year ago and my memory is not as fresh as it should be , but I remember my strategy was to build a defensive wall around the third Serbian city (the main key point of AI's attack). Don't attack in your turn (so that your generals could restore some health). It is also possible to deploy Sophia in some of these cities. The main point is to prevent your cities from being encircled by enemies, try to build forts near cities (not for damage but simply to block their advancement). So I could accomplish both: 1. to defend all 3 key targets with my Infantry generals. 2. to defend 1 key target without my Infantry generals. So, all demands of the mission were met, unfortunately for me it was not done at the same time I had 4 Infantry generals in my team and it is close to impossible to receive 3 stars for this mission in this situation. The only chance to do it with 3 stars, is to dismiss our Infantry generals and hire Cavalry and Arty generals instead (or to buy additional slots for generals, of course). Did you have max fort tech? Right now, since I still have generals, items, and other tech branches to upgrade, my fort tech is completely not upgraded. Do you recommend a different strategy?
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Post by stoic on May 31, 2019 3:22:08 GMT
I completed this mission with 2 stars almost a year ago and my memory is not as fresh as it should be , but I remember my strategy was to build a defensive wall around the third Serbian city (the main key point of AI's attack). Don't attack in your turn (so that your generals could restore some health). It is also possible to deploy Sophia in some of these cities. The main point is to prevent your cities from being encircled by enemies, try to build forts near cities (not for damage but simply to block their advancement). So I could accomplish both: 1. to defend all 3 key targets with my Infantry generals. 2. to defend 1 key target without my Infantry generals. So, all demands of the mission were met, unfortunately for me it was not done at the same time I had 4 Infantry generals in my team and it is close to impossible to receive 3 stars for this mission in this situation. The only chance to do it with 3 stars, is to dismiss our Infantry generals and hire Cavalry and Arty generals instead (or to buy additional slots for generals, of course). Did you have max fort tech? Right now, since I still have generals, items, and other tech branches to upgrade, my fort tech is completely not upgraded. Do you recommend a different strategy? Because we were waiting for an update with the Crimean war for two months or so, we had an opportunity to complete all upgrades in time. You can try to defend a city in the NW as well. If I remember, you can deploy your princesses there. So don't fight right from the start. Just follow the main enemy force and try to recapture cities. And then you have some time before AI's reinforcements arrive to prepare your defense.
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Jun 1, 2019 1:39:32 GMT
Post by Louis Gabriel Suchet on Jun 1, 2019 1:39:32 GMT
Did you have max fort tech? Right now, since I still have generals, items, and other tech branches to upgrade, my fort tech is completely not upgraded. Do you recommend a different strategy? Because we were waiting for an update with the Crimean war for two months or so, we had an opportunity to complete all upgrades in time. You can try to defend a city in the NW as well. If I remember, you can deploy your princesses there. So don't fight right from the start. Just follow the main enemy force and try to recapture cities. And then you have some time before AI's reinforcements arrive to prepare your defense. Ok, but should I attack them, or just stay a safe distance behind. I find whenever I try to use artillery to harass their troops some of them attack me, and because all my tech is not maxed out, I have a ok -just below difficult, not easy- time dealing with them. So do you recommend I don't attack the enemy unless I have to? (ie they are in an objective city), both strategies have their pros and cons... Also what does NW mean? And where would you recommend I deploy Sofia/the other princesses? Sorry I have so many questions lol
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