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Post by Pietro Badoglio on Feb 2, 2020 21:14:35 GMT
Reworked review for Grant
10/10, no numbers can describe just how good this guy is. I mean look at his skills, Battle Array? This man can walk around trenches, can you imagine that. I don't see Petain or Haig with the ability to walk around static positions in the ground! And how would you like it to have a future president in your army, cause I sure as hell know that I would. I heard ET limited his max rank to Prince in an attempt to "nerf" him, and as you can clearly see, had failed. He won the Civil War and he can definitely do it again! A armored car? Measly scrap when Grant is done with it. Puts all the IAPs to shame. And best of all, he's FREE!!! Not a single dime spent and you get this absolute god in your team! Would recommend in your end game team, in fact. He IS your end game team, no need for silly generals such as Jackson, Lee, Hindenburg and more. Words can not describe how good this guy is!
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Post by Gone on Feb 2, 2020 22:15:11 GMT
Reworked review for Grant 10/10, no numbers can describe just how good this guy is. I mean look at his skills, Battle Array? This man can walk around trenches, can you imagine that. I don't see Petain or Haig with the ability to walk around static positions in the ground! And how would you like it to have a future president in your army, cause I sure as hell know that I would. I heard ET limited his max rank to Prince in an attempt to "nerf" him, and as you can clearly see, had failed. He won the Civil War and he can definitely do it again! A armored car? Measly scrap when Grant is done with it. Puts all the IAPs to shame. And best of all, he's FREE!!! Not a single dime spent and you get this absolute god in your team! Would recommend in your end game team, in fact. He IS your end game team, no need for silly generals such as Jackson, Lee, Hindenburg and more. Words can not describe how good this guy is! This honestly made me cringe. Not the “Clinton/Verhuell/Provost is god” memes again. |
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Post by Kurt von Schleicher on Feb 9, 2020 6:01:51 GMT
Reworked review for Grant 10/10, no numbers can describe just how good this guy is. I mean look at his skills, Battle Array? This man can walk around trenches, can you imagine that. I don't see Petain or Haig with the ability to walk around static positions in the ground! And how would you like it to have a future president in your army, cause I sure as hell know that I would. I heard ET limited his max rank to Prince in an attempt to "nerf" him, and as you can clearly see, had failed. He won the Civil War and he can definitely do it again! A armored car? Measly scrap when Grant is done with it. Puts all the IAPs to shame. And best of all, he's FREE!!! Not a single dime spent and you get this absolute god in your team! Would recommend in your end game team, in fact. He IS your end game team, no need for silly generals such as Jackson, Lee, Hindenburg and more. Words can not describe how good this guy is! Grant is infantry God like who before him Clinton😂 |
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Post by Gone on Feb 15, 2020 1:55:18 GMT
Reworked review for Grant 10/10, no numbers can describe just how good this guy is. I mean look at his skills, Battle Array? This man can walk around trenches, can you imagine that. I don't see Petain or Haig with the ability to walk around static positions in the ground! And how would you like it to have a future president in your army, cause I sure as hell know that I would. I heard ET limited his max rank to Prince in an attempt to "nerf" him, and as you can clearly see, had failed. He won the Civil War and he can definitely do it again! A armored car? Measly scrap when Grant is done with it. Puts all the IAPs to shame. And best of all, he's FREE!!! Not a single dime spent and you get this absolute god in your team! Would recommend in your end game team, in fact. He IS your end game team, no need for silly generals such as Jackson, Lee, Hindenburg and more. Words can not describe how good this guy is! Grant is infantry God like who before him Clinton😂 I mean, at least he can be an actually great general if you replace his entire skillset. But those memes are not funny and just mislead new players who have no idea how the skills work. |
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Post by ambitiousace on Feb 15, 2020 5:59:10 GMT
He's rly helpless in the later campaigns.. At least we can still cope with him in US conquests.ET should do better with this guy.Dude's the one beating Lee but can barely stand against him here.Cmon ET pls grant this wish
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Post by Gone on Feb 15, 2020 13:15:13 GMT
He's rly helpless in the later campaigns.. At least we can still cope with him in US conquests.ET should do better with this guy.Dude's the one beating Lee but can barely stand against him here.Cmon ET pls grant this wish They won't. |
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Post by Nobunaga Oda on Feb 16, 2020 12:50:54 GMT
According to Alexyx's compilation of analyses, 3 of Grant's skills are light green or moderately useful (Inspiration, Counterattack and Formation Master) while Battle Array is definitely the worst in Grant's skillset and the worst for inf gens overall. IMO, as an inf gen, you should expect Grant to be getting hit quite often by all sorts of enemies. Having Counterattack equipped to capitalise on this fact gives Grant a de facto dmg boost throughout his short lifespan, unless he is hit by air power or ranged enemies OR when he attacks. As Grant has Inspiration, he will not be easily crippled by troop skills that demoralize troops or flanking maneuvers. Since higher morale can be linked to better higher dmg output, this is a minor plus. Undeniably, having a consistent atk boost is better than increased crit atk IF he deals critical dmg. So Formation Master is not the best skill to have. Battle Array's lack of worth is quite obvious. __________________________________________________________ Among the free inf gens, clearly Grant's main rival is Nicholas I. Grant's Counterattack loses out as Assault applies a permanent flat dmg boost to ALL attacks, unlike Counterattack. A skill that provides percentage based atk boost that is more consistent than Formation Master. That fits the bill for Nicholas' Plain Fighting skill. Tunnel is an moderately useful or slightly useless skill when used on any inf unit that does NOT deal heavy dmg to forts and cities (basically any unit that is NOT a Guards unit). However, this is still more useful and frequently used than Grant's Battle Array. Nicholas' Alert is limited to dmg reduction against naval and arty bombardment, improving survivability. Grant's Inspiration is good skill for a land gen, but it loses the minor survivability boost Alert provides in exchange for better odds when demoralised and slightly improved atk. Arguably, this is Grant's one win in Grant VS Nicholas I. Lastly, when comparing Nicholas' stats to Grant's, Nicholas who can reach Emperor makes for a better case against Grant's Prince. Nicholas I starts out at a higher Title, IIRC, which means he is slightly cheaper than Grant when upgrading both. __________________________________________________________ Overall, Grant does come out to be worse than his main free rival Nicholas I. Grant's skillset does require a LOT of improvements to make him worthwhile. However, he still has some worth as an inf gen. He can be used as a placeholder 2nd or 3rd inf gen in early to mid game until you have better replacements, IMO. |
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Post by ambitiousace on Feb 16, 2020 12:55:45 GMT
According to Alexyx's compilation of analyses, 3 of Grant's skills are light green or moderately useful (Inspiration, Counterattack and Formation Master) while Battle Array is definitely the worst in Grant's skillset and the worst for inf gens overall. IMO, as an inf gen, you should expect Grant to be getting hit quite often by all sorts of enemies. Having Counterattack equipped to capitalise on this fact gives Grant a de facto dmg boost throughout his short lifespan, unless he is hit by air power or ranged enemies OR when he attacks. As Grant has Inspiration, he will not be easily crippled by troop skills that demoralize troops or flanking maneuvers. Since higher morale can be linked to better higher dmg output, this is a minor plus. Undeniably, having a consistent atk boost is better than increased crit atk IF he deals critical dmg. So Formation Master is not the best skill to have. Battle Array's lack of worth is quite obvious. __________________________________________________________ Among the free inf gens, clearly Grant's main rival is Nicholas I. Grant's Counterattack loses out as Assault applies a permanent flat dmg boost to ALL attacks, unlike Counterattack. A skill that provides percentage based atk boost that is more consistent than Formation Master. That fits the bill for Nicholas' Plain Fighting skill. Tunnel is an moderately useful or slightly useless skill when used on any inf unit that does NOT deal heavy dmg to forts and cities (basically any unit that is NOT a Guards unit). However, this is still more useful and frequently used than Grant's Battle Array. Nicholas' Alert is limited to dmg reduction against naval and arty bombardment, improving survivability. Grant's Inspiration is good skill for a land gen, but it loses the minor survivability boost Alert provides in exchange for better odds when demoralised and slightly improved atk. Arguably, this is Grant's one win in Grant VS Nicholas I. Lastly, when comparing Nicholas' stats to Grant's, Nicholas who can reach Emperor makes for a better case against Grant's Prince. Nicholas I starts out at a higher Title, IIRC, which means he is slightly cheaper than Grant when upgrading both. __________________________________________________________ Overall, Grant does come out to be worse than his main free rival Nicholas I. Grant's skillset does require a LOT of improvements to make him worthwhile. However, he still has some worth as an inf gen. He can be used as a placeholder 2nd or 3rd inf gen in early to mid game until you have better replacements, IMO. Mind if you tell me when exactly mid game comes?Like til x campaign and y year of conquest |
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Post by SolidLight on Feb 16, 2020 13:13:37 GMT
According to Alexyx 's compilation of analyses, 3 of Grant's skills are light green or moderately useful (Inspiration, Counterattack and Formation Master) while Battle Array is definitely the worst in Grant's skillset and the worst for inf gens overall. IMO, as an inf gen, you should expect Grant to be getting hit quite often by all sorts of enemies. Having Counterattack equipped to capitalise on this fact gives Grant a de facto dmg boost throughout his short lifespan, unless he is hit by air power or ranged enemies OR when he attacks. As Grant has Inspiration, he will not be easily crippled by troop skills that demoralize troops or flanking maneuvers. Since higher morale can be linked to better higher dmg output, this is a minor plus. Undeniably, having a consistent atk boost is better than increased crit atk IF he deals critical dmg. So Formation Master is not the best skill to have. Battle Array's lack of worth is quite obvious. __________________________________________________________ Among the free inf gens, clearly Grant's main rival is Nicholas I. Grant's Counterattack loses out as Assault applies a permanent flat dmg boost to ALL attacks, unlike Counterattack. A skill that provides percentage based atk boost that is more consistent than Formation Master. That fits the bill for Nicholas' Plain Fighting skill. Tunnel is an moderately useful or slightly useless skill when used on any inf unit that does NOT deal heavy dmg to forts and cities (basically any unit that is NOT a Guards unit). However, this is still more useful and frequently used than Grant's Battle Array. Nicholas' Alert is limited to dmg reduction against naval and arty bombardment, improving survivability. Grant's Inspiration is good skill for a land gen, but it loses the minor survivability boost Alert provides in exchange for better odds when demoralised and slightly improved atk. Arguably, this is Grant's one win in Grant VS Nicholas I. Lastly, when comparing Nicholas' stats to Grant's, Nicholas who can reach Emperor makes for a better case against Grant's Prince. Nicholas I starts out at a higher Title, IIRC, which means he is slightly cheaper than Grant when upgrading both. __________________________________________________________ Overall, Grant does come out to be worse than his main free rival Nicholas I. Grant's skillset does require a LOT of improvements to make him worthwhile. However, he still has some worth as an inf gen. He can be used as a placeholder 2nd or 3rd inf gen in early to mid game until you have better replacements, IMO. This is a pretty cool analysis. And I do agree that he should be used as one of your infantry gens in the very early game where medals don't fall from the sky. Nick I isn't really the best comparision imo. He comes around in European Powder Keg, at which point Grant should be rivaling infantry heavyweights like Lee and Haig. I don't quite agree with the idea of trying to capitalize on counterattack because it, as you said, leaves him with a short lifespan due to focus fire. You're not doing anything if you're dead! |
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Post by Harry Lillis "Bing" Crosby Jr on Feb 16, 2020 13:18:05 GMT
Guess Im stuck with him for the rest of my game, even after completing all missions and most of the challenges, all conquests too. Just those two fiendish history mode missions... Grant should have been made more viable. But he was still dependable through the start. He reminds me of the time when I used Tito as my first infantry general in my first wc4 account
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Post by Friedrich “Fried Rice” Paulus on Feb 16, 2020 20:03:53 GMT
Guess Im stuck with him for the rest of my game, even after completing all missions and most of the challenges, all conquests too. Just those two fiendish history mode missions... Grant should have been made more viable. But he was still dependable through the start. He reminds me of the time when I used Tito as my first infantry general in my first wc4 account Good news for him tho is that he will be a passable general after 5 textbooks are invested |
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Post by SolidLight on Feb 16, 2020 20:05:21 GMT
Guess Im stuck with him for the rest of my game, even after completing all missions and most of the challenges, all conquests too. Just those two fiendish history mode missions... Grant should have been made more viable. But he was still dependable through the start. He reminds me of the time when I used Tito as my first infantry general in my first wc4 account Good news for him tho is that he will be a passable general after 5 textbooks are invested That's a pretty low standard you've got there m8. |
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Post by Friedrich “Fried Rice” Paulus on Feb 16, 2020 22:56:15 GMT
Good news for him tho is that he will be a passable general after 5 textbooks are invested That's a pretty low standard you've got there m8. Counterattack, Inspiration, Formation Master, Assault. Pretty tolerable to use for a while until some more textbooks are obtained. Than give him plain fighting instead of either inspiration or counterattack. He’ll be like a suvorov lite. Just saying if medals are an issue. That way you can use your medals on a good artillery general early on like hindenberg |
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Post by SolidLight on Feb 16, 2020 23:42:04 GMT
That's a pretty low standard you've got there m8. Counterattack, Inspiration, Formation Master, Assault. Pretty tolerable to use for a while until some more textbooks are obtained. Than give him plain fighting instead of either inspiration or counterattack. He’ll be like a suvorov lite. Just saying if medals are an issue. That way you can use your medals on a good artillery general early on like hindenberg I mean, yeah, you could do that. Not really the best use of your textbooks at the start though since Stonewall Jackson exists. That’s also like 15 books to almost match Nicholas I. If you can afford to spend 15 books on one general you should probably be at European Powder Keg already. |
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Post by Gone on Feb 17, 2020 1:11:55 GMT
Guess Im stuck with him for the rest of my game, even after completing all missions and most of the challenges, all conquests too. Just those two fiendish history mode missions... Grant should have been made more viable. But he was still dependable through the start. He reminds me of the time when I used Tito as my first infantry general in my first wc4 account Well, you can always play one of these mods that are stuck in the previous version. |
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